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by Kbg
Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:18 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Twitter Files
Replies: 163
Views: 55927

Re: The Twitter Files

This is where we are. We have left wing media and right wing media. You are apparently required to pick a side, and then you have to denigrate anything said by the other side, whether it is worth considering or not. It could be an extremely important thing to know, but no, the other side is saying ...
by Kbg
Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:09 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine
Replies: 99
Views: 152657

Re: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine

Speaking of data…this is pretty interesting.

https://www.war-memorial.net/wars_all.asp
by Kbg
Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:35 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine
Replies: 99
Views: 152657

Re: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine

Our military industrial complex, defense contractor industry, and unfettered lobby will cause us to err to the side of militarism for the obvious reasons. However, you should also realize politicians know how to count votes and they do on this issue. If you are in the group of Americans who think t...
by Kbg
Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:07 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine
Replies: 99
Views: 152657

Re: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine

Let’s run down the list objectively as to stated reason and reality. If you have the opinion the war was stupid, we stayed too long and we shouldn’t have gotten involved great. I share that view in some cases. However, this has no bearing on if the government lied to you about why we were getting i...
by Kbg
Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:02 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine
Replies: 99
Views: 152657

Re: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine

Let’s run down the list objectively as to stated reason and reality. If you have the opinion the war was stupid, we stayed too long and we shouldn’t have gotten involved great. I share that view in some cases. However, this has no bearing on if the government lied to you about why we were getting in...
by Kbg
Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:24 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Question for SilentMajority about Information Sources
Replies: 19
Views: 5310

Re: Question for SilentMajority about Information Sources

+1 million

So very, very true...then combine this with an agenda. Big sigh.
by Kbg
Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:16 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Twitter Files
Replies: 163
Views: 55927

Re: The Twitter Files

SilentMajority wrote:
Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:58 am
Hopefully Elon makes enough money here to buy another media company and shed more light on what these unelected spy/police agencies are up to.
Personally, I would prefer billionaires get out of the media biz. Jeff Bezos completely ruined the WaPo.
by Kbg
Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:08 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine
Replies: 99
Views: 152657

Re: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine

I say as an American practicing Christian, God willing Russia will win and teach the warmongering American leadership class to stop meddling in other countries' business, most of which they do not because of a selfless desire to spread freedom and democracy to the rest of the world but just to fatt...
by Kbg
Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:47 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine
Replies: 99
Views: 152657

Re: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine

Our military industrial complex, defense contractor industry, and unfettered lobby will cause us to err to the side of militarism for the obvious reasons. Well, far far more accurately, the people who inhabit congress and the senate bringing home the bacon for their districts/states with something ...
by Kbg
Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:10 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine
Replies: 99
Views: 152657

Re: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine

I saw a bit of Zelenski (sp?) with the big guy. Z spoke about how many people in U are now going to be vengeful for generations. This is a great reason to stay out of European wars. They (all of them) have been fighting for a couple thousand years and they all hate each other. If you ever have a go...
by Kbg
Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:06 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine
Replies: 99
Views: 152657

Re: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine

The thing is that your hypothetical would require the US to actually engage in some diplomacy, kind of like in the old days where quid pro quo stuff actually happened. As I understand it these days, the US is basically the big bad bully that just tells other countries what the deal is going to be, ...
by Kbg
Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:38 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Twitter Files
Replies: 163
Views: 55927

Re: The Twitter Files

The non-partisan observer observes that left and right are both "woke" these days. They just bang on different drums. Casting it in religious terms...heaven help he/she who breaks from ordained orthodoxy. Free thinking/opposing views verboten.
by Kbg
Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:06 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Twitter Files
Replies: 163
Views: 55927

Re: The Twitter Files

It would seem that the implied threat of "fines and criminal penalties" would be sufficient to persuade cooperation without getting to the point of following thru on said threats. Therefore, the "requests" seem like de facto coercion, so maybe you do want to be concerned. If this was an individual,...
by Kbg
Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:42 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Twitter Files
Replies: 163
Views: 55927

Re: The Twitter Files

Deep State apologists are always like: 1. That's not happening, it's a conspiracy theory. 2. Okay it's happening, but so what, it's always been happening. 3. You f***ing morons should be glad it's happening! LOL Fair points, spears accepted. :-) You perfectly summarized my main point of several pos...
by Kbg
Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:25 am
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Question for SilentMajority about Information Sources
Replies: 19
Views: 5310

Re: Question for SilentMajority about Information Sources

I'll look forward to your list of people and places you trust. Everything else you said in your post resonates with me. Thank you. I don't really "trust" any sources. I evaluate them and then take on board my own assessment of something factoring in my own personal expertise. Certain subjects I kno...
by Kbg
Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:05 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine
Replies: 99
Views: 152657

Re: West Provokes Russia to Protect Russians in Ukraine

Since we're lobbing hypotheticals here... What if the west told China that if they supported the west they could have the former territories controlled by the Qing dynasty and seized by imperialist Russia back? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Manchuria#:~:text=The%20Russian%20Empire%20annexed%20...
by Kbg
Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:38 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Twitter Files
Replies: 163
Views: 55927

Re: The Twitter Files

And, some Twitter stats from here to underscore that it is NOT something that reaches everyone in this country: It would have taken only ONE Twitter user with an 386 computer and an internet connection to disseminate the revelations at issue to to the world at large. They were that explosive, and w...
by Kbg
Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:27 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Twitter Files
Replies: 163
Views: 55927

Re: The Twitter Files

For those not emotionally involved, this is a pretty good summary of the twitter files... However, as experts point out, the First Amendment protects people from government infringement on their right to free speech — it doesn't compel private companies such as Twitter to permit unfettered speech. T...
by Kbg
Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:02 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Twitter Files
Replies: 163
Views: 55927

Re: The Twitter Files

flyingpylon wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:55 pm
Interesting perspective on Twitter Files #8... did all of this start with the Arab Spring, and is it connected to Black Lives Matter?

https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/stat ... 5547217920
Now THAT's twitter full on. :o ::)
by Kbg
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:03 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Twitter Files
Replies: 163
Views: 55927

Re: The Twitter Files

You guys are absolutely killing me... Here's a "Secret" https://www.jcs.mil/Portals/36/Documents/Doctrine/concepts/joint_concepts_jcoie.pdf Here's a summary of protected vs. unprotected speech https://sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/IF11072.pdf News flash...your government does conduct information operations. ...
by Kbg
Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:46 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Question for SilentMajority about Information Sources
Replies: 19
Views: 5310

Re: Question for SilentMajority about Information Sources

Hello SilentMajority, One of your recent posts stated that US news networks are basically state-run media functioning as mouthpieces for the government. I agree with that whole-heartedly. I'm curious if you would be willing to share the information sources you find to be helpful? I'm always struggl...
by Kbg
Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:48 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Twitter Files
Replies: 163
Views: 55927

Re: The Twitter Files

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by Kbg
Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:40 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Twitter Files
Replies: 163
Views: 55927

Re: The Twitter Files

From the standpoint of results, is there any practical or indeed moral difference between the "softball" versions of A and B? Moral? Not sure that would be my choice of word. Let me flip the question. What is immoral in the scenario being described? Free speech is a legal protection enumerated in t...
by Kbg
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:27 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Twitter Files
Replies: 163
Views: 55927

Re: The Twitter Files

Below is from the NYPost two days ago. I'm sure this is just perfectly normal. It's some isolated incidents, or evidence that a lot of liberals worked at Twitters. It's definitely not a lot of FBI agents working in Sr. roles at Twitter, transferring money to the company from the FBI budget to contr...
by Kbg
Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:58 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Twitter Files
Replies: 163
Views: 55927

Re: The Twitter Files

It was interesting reading the posted actual letters vs. Taibbi's interpretation of them. Spoiler Alert: You will find a lot of ex FBI, CIA and military types in the security and safety arms of large American corporations. Wonder why? Option A: Vast deep state conspiracy to infiltrate every element ...