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pmward wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:52 pm Also worth keeping an eye on small caps. This is the spread between IWM and SPY.
I was thinking (for a while) that actually there might be only 2 quite distinct strategies.
Guess there are many different implementations of the first, but all they sound like "consider the top-performer (QQQ/SPY, IWR, IWM, etc.etc.) for given past period and invest in it, as what was strong yesterday will continue to be strong (at least for the short/mid term)".
The other being what you've pointed - relative strength (vs. the market/sector/etc.) and momentum . This one comes with a flavor of choosing a slight past under-performer and reliance on the mean-reversion.
Do you prefer one of those approaches (backed with the appropriate technical setup of course) or you find it not that simple ...? :)
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pmward wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:04 pm To me gold looks like it's just consolidating it's gains in a pennant
But if we consider the below rising wedge that has been crossed from above already ? A daily chart of Xetra-Gold (guess resembles GLD/IAU), starting from beginning of March :
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Vil wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:37 am
pmward wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:52 pm Also worth keeping an eye on small caps. This is the spread between IWM and SPY.
I was thinking (for a while) that actually there might be only 2 quite distinct strategies.
Guess there are many different implementations of the first, but all they sound like "consider the top-performer (QQQ/SPY, IWR, IWM, etc.etc.) for given past period and invest in it, as what was strong yesterday will continue to be strong (at least for the short/mid term)".
The other being what you've pointed - relative strength (vs. the market/sector/etc.) and momentum . This one comes with a flavor of choosing a slight past under-performer and reliance on the mean-reversion.
Do you prefer one of those approaches (backed with the appropriate technical setup of course) or you find it not that simple ...? :)
Mean reversion works on short and ultra-long timeframes, but it doesn't work well on the intermediate timeframe. Trend works on the intermediate timeframe, but doesn't work well on short or ultra-long timeframes. So what I have here is a short term small cap mean reversion play, and an intermediate term trend play on large cap growth. I'm honestly not looking to hold the small caps very long. As soon as they "catch up" and/or I feel the market is starting to look toppy, they will get axed.

There's also a 3rd trade there if you're willing to short... and that's a long/short pairs trade. I could say, go long QQQ and short IWM. Then, even if the market goes down I would still make money so long as QQQ fell less than IWM. That's a pure bet on the relative strength of one asset vs another, regardless of overall market direction.

I can't say I prefer one over the other necessarily. It all depends on the setup.
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Vil wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:53 am
pmward wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:04 pm To me gold looks like it's just consolidating it's gains in a pennant
But if we consider the below rising wedge that has been crossed from above already ? A daily chart of Xetra-Gold (guess resembles GLD/IAU), starting from beginning of March :

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This is something worth taking note of... but it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to break down. Look at SPY, it had a rising wedge that broke down last week and has continued to go up regardless. Remember, long term trends/patterns/indicators are stronger than short term. To me the daily chart of gold looks like classic consolidation. SLV and GDX even moreso, as both of them are in textbook bull flags on the daily chart right now. I see nothing wrong with any of their charts. Remember, no chart is ever going to be 100% bullish or 100% bearish... and if it is you should be looking more for setups to fade it than anything. There are always going too be bullish signals and bearish signals. You have to kind of weigh them against each other to come up with the overall probability. When something is consolidating, it's going to break below short term trends, but it will hold intermediate term and long term trends. Momentum and relative strength will go down in a consolidation, but they won't crater either. They are simply biding time and letting the moving averages catch up a bit.
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Getting back to metals... looking at the gold futures chart today it actually looks like we are starting to form a pennant, with the bottom around 1660. We have some lower highs coming in, and a flat bottom. This is a typical consolidation pattern. I would not worry about gold as long as we are over that 1660. If we break below 1660 I would then start to question my VP bet on gold and start looking to lock in profits and waiting for another entry.

GDX. We are in a garden variety bull flag here. We did finally get below $33 today, and actually closed that gap I've been talking about from the 23rd. This is all normal market behavior though. Gaps usually get closed. It's obviously not a great sign... I mean, I would have liked this to take off like a rocketship from the break out. But this is not uncommon either. There is also a gap down to $30.87 from the 22nd. I don't begin to start questioning this trade and getting out until we are below $30.

SLV. Same deal as gold. We are in a pennant formation, with the bottom around 13.55. If we get below 13.55 I'll be looking to cut bait, but as long as we are above it, I see nothing but typical consolidation behavior going on.

Keep in mind all this analysis is for my sweet spot intermediate timeframe. A day trader or swing trader would opt to be impatient. But, for an intermediate term trader, you got to be willing to sit through consolidations. I'll never capture the exact top, and I'll never capture the exact bottom, but I'll catch the bulk of the move. And at times, I'll have to display a little patience in my positions. Until they invalidate the levels above, they have not done anything that would go against my theory in purchasing them.
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I feel like I took a clubbing today, haha. None of my VP positions hit their stops, but they pretty much all got close. There really was no winning today for anyone that was long anything, haha. We will see what happens tomorrow, I'll stick to my rules/stops and live to fight another day if the market does flip sour again.
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pmward wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:53 pm I feel like I took a clubbing today, haha. None of my VP positions hit their stops, but they pretty much all got close. There really was no winning today for anyone that was long anything, haha. We will see what happens tomorrow, I'll stick to my rules/stops and live to fight another day if the market does flip sour again.
AMZN and AAPL earnings after hours were not well received so I expect some more downside tomorrow in equities. Stopped out of GDX at 33.40 and re-entered at 32.26 for one last attempt at a bounce but not expecting too much if we see further weakness in stocks. TLT performance today was surprising but end of month I’m sure played some role in the decline...shrug
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buddtholomew wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:52 pm
pmward wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:53 pm I feel like I took a clubbing today, haha. None of my VP positions hit their stops, but they pretty much all got close. There really was no winning today for anyone that was long anything, haha. We will see what happens tomorrow, I'll stick to my rules/stops and live to fight another day if the market does flip sour again.
AMZN and AAPL earnings after hours were not well received so I expect some more downside tomorrow in equities. Stopped out of GDX at 33.40 and re-entered at 32.26 for one last attempt at a bounce but not expecting too much if we see further weakness in stocks. TLT performance today was surprising but end of month I’m sure played some role in the decline...shrug
Yeah I don't keep stops super tight like that, especially on something like GDX where the average true range is wide, you gotta give it a little space to work or you risk getting stopped out and watching yourself proved right from the sidelines. GDX has went counter to the market lately. When the market was chopping sideways the last two weeks and going nowhere it was going up. So maybe with the stock market consolidating it will get a bid tomorrow? We will see. I don't do a lot of cycle analysis myself, but someone I follow who does (and has made some really good calls in the past) said a week or so ago that the cycle timing has metals seeing some light selling pressure and mostly being stuck around the current prices until about mid-May and then they will take off like a rocket. We will see if that plays out.

The swings may have felt big today, but really nothing has changed anywhere. This is why I like charting, if you just look at the percent moves and absolute gains/losses things feel bigger than they are. The reality is that no technical damage has been done. SPY is still above 2850 and it's 50 day moving average. IWM is still above 123.80 and it's 50 day moving average. GDX is still above all major moving averages and above $30. SLV is still above 13.55. GLD is still above 157. TLT is still above 163. All is still good technically speaking. One day down does not make a trend. The market has to mean revert to keep the bulls and the bears honest. It's certainly possible that we have topped and everything is going to go to hell in a hand basket all at once (at which case I'll be stopped out tomorrow and sit in cash to fight another day). But it's also possible that the market is doing that thing it likes to do where it ropes the bears back in just to turn around and give them yet another pie in the face. Do I think we are going to have another 20%+ drop in the next 12 months? Absolutely. But for the moment, I think people are still too bearish. The bears need to be fully beaten down and submit before it's time to reverse again and put the pain back on the bulls. I'm not sure we've reached that point yet. As soon as the average retail investor thinks we are "back to normal" that is the time to start getting fearful of the market crashing again.
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pmward wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:33 pm but someone I follow who does (and has made some really good calls in the past) said a week or so ago that the cycle timing has metals seeing some light selling pressure and mostly being stuck around the current prices until about mid-May and then they will take off like a rocket. We will see if that plays out.
Is it possible that you share the name of that guy (PM accepted too) ? Thanks.

By the way, yesterday silver had unusually high volume here, almost comparable to the big-drop days in the Mid of March. There was some entity selling a lot, and at some point the price went disturbed. I was thinking to jump on for a quick gain, but finally decided to not play that game and still focus on my daily job ( :-\ ). Can see SLV also had slightly increased volume, but as you say nothing unusual. Since couple of weeks, indeed both GLD and SLV appear to have some spinning tops, and appears consolidating... I am still too heavy on the silver I bought, days ago I sold 25% of it (and bought gold on the lower consolidation range, think its 1.7K or a bit less..), but still have way many kilos and not really sure which way to take with it - that's yet another point that I am bit sensitive on - the 'take profit' moment and weighting on what can be more profitable in the future ..
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Vil wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 3:28 am
pmward wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:33 pm but someone I follow who does (and has made some really good calls in the past) said a week or so ago that the cycle timing has metals seeing some light selling pressure and mostly being stuck around the current prices until about mid-May and then they will take off like a rocket. We will see if that plays out.
Is it possible that you share the name of that guy (PM accepted too) ? Thanks.

By the way, yesterday silver had unusually high volume here, almost comparable to the big-drop days in the Mid of March. There was some entity selling a lot, and at some point the price went disturbed. I was thinking to jump on for a quick gain, but finally decided to not play that game and still focus on my daily job ( :-\ ). Can see SLV also had slightly increased volume, but as you say nothing unusual. Since couple of weeks, indeed both GLD and SLV appear to have some spinning tops, and appears consolidating... I am still too heavy on the silver I bought, days ago I sold 25% of it (and bought gold on the lower consolidation range, think its 1.7K or a bit less..), but still have way many kilos and not really sure which way to take with it - that's yet another point that I am bit sensitive on - the 'take profit' moment and weighting on what can be more profitable in the future ..
Here's the video I'm referring to of the cycle analyst: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2KxaQ5tAXI I'm going to do my own analysis of the GLD chart here since there are so many questions on it.

First thing to note is the clearly defined uptrend that we have been in going back a full year. Obviously, on the long term perspective gold is in an uptrend. If anyone has a timeframe greater than a couple months, there's no reason to sell until we break below that trendline. BUT since that trend line has held, anyone who is a long term investor, *if* we tag the bottom line again would be an exceptional low risk high reward time to buy and throw like a 2% stop loss on in case we do break down. HOWEVER, the current pattern is basing to break out of the top of the channel line so odds are currently not looking likely that we go down to the bottom.

For a swing trader, that pennant pattern that is forming is of importance. You can see the green line at 157.04 that has held the line firmly, and the downward sloping dark blue line we are forming (this is not fully qualified yet as it has only been tested twice, you need 3 tests to fully establish). A pennant with a flat bottom usually breaks to the upside, I've heard a flat bottom pennant referred to as a "launching pad" for that reason. Now can it break down? Absolutely. So for a short term swing trader who's target is a couple days to a couple months at most, what does that mean? That means you put a stop loss below that flat line. At least $156.90, $155 if you want to be safe and avoid a whipsaw from a fake out stop loss check and run. At that point if you get stopped out, you watch over the coming days to either buy if was a fake out and instead breaks above the triangle, or you look to buy at the 50 day moving average, or the bottom of the trend line. SLV is showing the same exact forming pennant formation. You can play it the same way, only with rebuy either as the breakout of the pennant or in a breakdown, ideally after a bounce around the lows in March. SLV was a mean reversion play of mine, and so it's on a short leash for me not just on whether it breaks out or not, but whether it starts outperforming gold again or not. If not, that will be rotated into GLD or GDX depending on which shows more strength.
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As of the moment, with the VIX back up to 38+ this morning, it is possible that my trend following allocation goes risk off into the close today. We will see how the day goes. As of the moment if we close where futures are and I get the risk off signal, that puts me with a very small gain on the small cap allocation and about a 1% loss on my large cap growth allocations that comprise my trend model. So it's an obnoxious whipsaw, but that would equate to about a 15 bp loss via quick napkin math in my portfolio as a whole from where that allocation started the week. No big deal. Definitely not going to cry over spilled milk if this happens. It was worth a shot, and loss is minimal. I will update how we look later on closer to the close.

You guys at least are seeing what active trading is really like here. It's about the 80/20 rule. 20% of your trades make up 80% of your gains. Most trades are duds, but eventually you catch that rocket ship that makes it all worth while. On the social media sphere you see the screenshots of everyones big rocket rides, but you don't see all the trades they took that went nowhere or logged as small losses to find that one. It only takes one good trade to make your entire month, or even in some cases your entire year. This is why I've said here that risk management is the most important part. It is not full of excitement every day. It is a game of patience and persistence. Living to fight another day is always the most important thing.
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pmward wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 8:01 am 20% of your trades make up 80% of your gains.
YTD, I have 63% winning days and exactly 50% winning trades. I did some quite stupid moves (from retrospective point of view) and still my VP is + 15%, so do concur with you. Shorting EU indexes in the early days of the covid panic was especially fruitful. But that was the easy part, together with the gains from some of the previous days (prior to covid panic & lockdowns) - as mentioned, after we entered the zig-zag markets, my performance is slightly disappointing. Was even considering to go fully in cash in my VP and just wait for the things to calm down (which may not happen in the next months).

Day trading is still not something I can afford, given I have a full day utilization on my quite well paid (even for US standards) job.
It's swing trading that perhaps would fit my personality, given I tend to put a bit too much emotions when I have to take quick decisions under pressure. So, entering position and exiting after 20 seconds is definitely not my cup of tea. But there's still a lot to learn from many places/sources (you inclusive, again thanks for that) ...
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Vil wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 9:42 am
pmward wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 8:01 am 20% of your trades make up 80% of your gains.
YTD, I have 63% winning days and exactly 50% winning trades. I did some quite stupid moves (from retrospective point of view) and still my VP is + 15%, so do concur with you. Shorting EU indexes in the early days of the covid panic was especially fruitful. But that was the easy part, together with the gains from some of the previous days (prior to covid panic & lockdowns) - as mentioned, after we entered the zig-zag markets, my performance is slightly disappointing. Was even considering to go fully in cash in my VP and just wait for the things to calm down (which may not happen in the next months).

Day trading is still not something I can afford, given I have a full day utilization on my quite well paid (even for US standards) job.
It's swing trading that perhaps would fit my personality, given I tend to put a bit too much emotions when I have to take quick decisions under pressure. So, entering position and exiting after 20 seconds is definitely not my cup of tea. But there's still a lot to learn from many places/sources (you inclusive, again thanks for that) ...
50% winning trades is nothing to sneeze at. You have shown that you can be wrong 50% of the time and still be up 15%. This is exactly what I'm talking about here, it's all about risk management. I'm not a day trader either, as I have a day job. I prefer to be an intermediate term trader, but volatile times like this brings all of our timeframes down a bit. We need to be agile. But still, whether you're a day trader, swing trader, or an intermediate term trader, you should know in advance before you put on a trade where you will buy, where you will sell when you are wrong, and how you will get out if you are right. There are numerous strategies for this. Are you going to use a trailing stop, if so how? Are there support or resistance levels you will use? Are you going to take profits as you go or let it all ride? How are you going to size that position in order to keep the risk/reward in your favor? Are you going to buy all in at once, or scale in? These are all things you need to keep in mind.

Also, as of right now my trend following model is still risk on, unless this changes, I will be going into the weekend with my trend allocation in equities. I am looking really closely at small caps though, they are very close to the level where I would sell and move that back to large cap growth even if we stay risk on. I still have a small gain here, but the relative strength vs LCG is fading.

TLT however may be on the chopping block today. I'm not liking what I am seeing, so I may close my VP position in TLT and wait to see if we can get an hourly close above that 171.93 high to buy back in. It is oversold on the hourly chart though so I'm going to give it a couple more hours to see if it can prove to me it has some life left in it.
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Wow what a day. I took the day off work to go hiking and relax... let's just say the market didn't really give me a chance to relax. After my last message this morning I literally hit the send button, threw my shoes on, and walked out the door to go on a hike... and just as I walked out the door my notification went off that I was stopped out of my small cap mean reversion trade. Seems like Elon Musk tweeted how his stock was overvalued and the whole market just plummeted. Now those small caps are a part of my trend allocation. I normally would have swapped them over to large cap growth instead, but with the volatility trend signal basically hugging the line of risk on/off all day and since it's a Friday I just sat on my hands. In the end, my trend model stayed in stocks. So we will see what cards Monday deals as to whether that cash goes into stocks or stays in cash (and the rest of my trend allocation then going back into cash).

GDX came through today though, and its back above where? Above that $33 price that I keep mentioning. $33 is a very important level if you haven't noticed. It was battling all day back and forth over that $33 level, and wound up closing at $33.27. We also got a bullish engulfing candle over the big down day yesterday. Very good looking sign, especially on a day stocks are down. Bonds have went to sleep lately, so getting some strength here makes me feel a bit better.

Speaking of bonds, I did keep my TLT trade on. I was thinking about maybe taking profits and sitting on the sidelines to see if we get back above that $171 area to get back in. But with the craziness in stocks that ensued the rest of the day, I think it's worth sitting on my hands and seeing what the next card is that is dealt.

SLV is also testing my patience. This may get rolled over into GDX or GLD next week if it continues to under-perform both. But, like with bonds, I want to see the next card that is dealt before making any decisions. That $14 level seems to be really important. Looking at the 5 min chart, earlier this week it was functioning as support and we bounced off of it multiple times. The last couple days though it's been resistance and we keep getting rejected every time we try to get above it.

S&P lost that important 2850 level, but it held its ground at 2810, at least for now. It's still above it's 50 day line. As long as we are above the 50 day moving average it's hard to get too bearish. We very well could go test that 50 day SMA and then turn around and rip back to the upside to go test 3k.

So I had a feeling I was going to get stopped out of something today, and it looks like it was small-caps. I only lost like 20 bps of my total portfolio on that trade so no harm, no foul. This market is insane right now. Fake outs on top of fake outs on top of fake outs. That small cap fake out was a good one. I bet a lot of people that jumped on the train later than I did got really chopped up on that one. In hindsight, I wish I would have taken some gains when I was up 10% in the first couple days, but oh well. The 64 trillion dollar question now is this? Is this bearish couple days the turning point? Or is it yet ANOTHER fake out, luring the bears back into the short trade just to give them yet another pie in the face, roll up to 3k-3,100 to stop out all the shorts as well lure the retail investors back in.... only to do the fake out thing yet again and sweep out the rug on the bulls and retail investors alike? I'm currently tempted to think that this latter case of delivering the pie to the face of the bears, and then to the bulls and retail is the most likely scenario. But anything could change. We have to see what happens next week. I for one am glad the roller coaster week is over, and I can go relax and forget about markets for a couple days.
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In my weekend research this week I dug deep into my small cap trade now that I've slept on it and could look at the charts with fresh eyes. I see two errors I made.

First, I got greedy. I know that when I catch a quick 10% gain in a couple days to take some profits off the table, especially in a mean reverting market like this where the odds are if your up huge today you're going to be down huge tomorrow. I saw that gap close at $140, and we were so close at $136 and I left the full chips on too long. I could have taken half the position off, and put it back in lower.

Second, I didn't account enough for the mean reversion trends in my stop. I got stopped out at the support level around $125. However, the 50 day moving average was at $124.50. Considering how it's very common behavior to go periodically check in at the 50 day SMA, I should have put my stop below the 50 day SMA. Lastly, there was an open gap on the daily chart at $123.30. I should have put my stop below that as well, as it is also common market behavior to close all gaps. So what did the IWM do on Friday? It bottomed at exactly $123.29. What is that number? 1 cent below the gap. Where did it close? just above the 50 day moving average. The market went down to close the gap almost to the penny, then went back above the 50 day SMA. Was there really anything wrong here? No, there wasn't. It was an ugly and painful 2 day plunge, but no technical damage was really done. I did not look close enough when I set that stop. My bad. Is there any saving grace here? Well, technically my small cap trade was split between my taxable account and my 401k. The chunk in my 401k is still on since my volatility model did not go risk off. So can I salvage this mistake? You bet. And this mistake could still benefit me as well. We have to see what the market does tomorrow. I have this cash as optionality. I can put the trade back on, or cash out my chips in my 401k either by going risk off if my volatility signal goes red, or if small caps relatively continue to perform like shit I can go all large-cap growth by "rebalancing" my 401k and buying QQQ in my taxable account. No harm, no foul. I played this one wrong, even if we go down big again on Monday and I would have gotten "stopped out" lower it doesn't matter, I still had my stop in the wrong place. The 20 day SMA about $121 is probably the right spot. There's the last low at $116 that also could provide support, but that's a bit more leash than I really would give a mean reversion trade. That $116 spot is probably a good spot to go short if we break below it.

So what went well this week? All the things I did wrong in IWM I strangely did right in GDX. I gave GDX the space it needs on it's stop and I benefitted from that. GDX and IWM are volatile instruments, and tight stops do not work with them. GDX looked down right ugly on Thurs and the open on Fri, but it came to the rescue of my portfolio because I gave it the space it needed. I knew there were 2 open gaps between $30 and where I bought. It also had some good support around $31. So I knew when I bought it that I needed to at least give it a 10% window down to $30. That's a large window, one I normally wouldn't consider... but the risk/reward of GDX currently is worth it. So where did it go? As low as $31.31. If I would have kept a tighter stop I would have been stopped out and missed the spike on Friday. Now the trade is still on, it still could go against me... we closed one of the 2 gaps on Friday, but there is still another... but that bullish reversal on Friday is a good sign. I also dug through a lot of the individual miner stock charts and I'm seeing a lot of bull flags. Most of these companies rocketed up and are simply sitting around consolidating for their next run. There's nothing wrong in gold miner land right now. It doesn't have to go up next week. It may continue to slosh around for a week or two just to test the intermediate to long term holder's patience. But all signs are still pointing up as the next big move.

The big takeaway? Mean reversion is nasty right now. If something is up today, odds are the next day it will be down. This is not just on the major indexes but also in sector rotation. Every other day it seems like leadership is changing. One day it's all large cap tech, health care, and utilities up big and everything else floundering. The next day it's all small caps, financials, and energy stocks up big and everything else floundering. For someone like me, who mainly plays trends and breakouts, this is a tough environment. I'm not as good with mean reversion trades. So this is a bit of a challenge for me to overcome and improve as a trader. Instead of my normal mindset where I buy something up today expecting it to be up tomorrow... I instead need to assume that if something is up today it will be down tomorrow. Instead of buying the breakouts, I need to learn to buy the pull-backs (or at least the initial break out above the lowest candle in a pull-back). Instead of waiting for confirmation before buying, I need to either buy before confirmation or on the first pull-back after confirmation. At least until the market gets back into a more normal trending state I need to adjust a bit. It's just all over the place right now, and if I can adjust I can profit.
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Indeed, its not only the small caps, many things turned south in the last days. Comparing the ETFs on relative strength basis (e.g. etfreplay) show a slowing down and possible revert. As you say Gold Miners clearly outperform. I was having a look to some sectors (as Health) that had a good momentum, but that has faded away in the recent days, guess have some 'common logic' explanation. Gold and miners have a good start today, silver and large cap stocks have some decline - S&P500 still holding above SMA50, but silver keeping under it (actually it was not able to close over it since the pandemic started). Silver is also well into the Ichimoku cloud, can see S&P is also approaching it .. Nikkei is closed those days, European indexes are down approx. 3% with opening, so another bear day approaches :)
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Quite interested whether SPY will close under SMA50, EU indexes have crossed it already. Stoxx 50 is -4.1% so far. It will be ugly day for stocks, good that I am quite off-loaded of them...

Actually, I am more and more leaning towards sitting on my hands until things calm down and VIX drops under 30. It is a volatile market that one can make plenty of money (and lose even more ;) ), though the way volatility is expressed with opening gaps makes it a sort of un-trade-able for me. It might be only me, though wondering how the owners of xAL (AAL, UAL etc.) feel right now...
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Vil wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 4:36 am Quite interested whether SPY will close under SMA50, EU indexes have crossed it already. Stoxx 50 is -4.1% so far. It will be ugly day for stocks, good that I am quite off-loaded of them...

Actually, I am more and more leaning towards sitting on my hands until things calm down and VIX drops under 30. It is a volatile market that one can make plenty of money (and lose even more ;) ), though the way volatility is expressed with opening gaps makes it a sort of un-trade-able for me. It might be only me, though wondering how the owners of xAL (AAL, UAL etc.) feel right now...
Yeah, it's a tough market to trade. This is the market that favors short term day-traders and swing traders. Everyone else has a hard time not getting chopped up. This is why I'm looking at some strategies that may be a bit more fitting for the current market climate, as my typical toolkit is not going to work here. So far even the R2K has been holding its 50 day SMA.

SLV is still testing my patience... but still is well above my stop. It's still in a consolidation at the moment, so still requires patience. I'll let my stop dictate when I sell. I think at some point this month we get the next leg up in metals, so I'm willing to give my VP SLV and GLD positions the leash they deserve. I've also identified an area in both that I will take some profits if we get that next leg up.

I did officially get the "risk-off" signal from my vol based trend following system today. The data slightly favors selling on the following days close. Given we've had 3 down days in a row, and no indexes below their 50 day SMA, I'm going to wait until tomorrow and sell at the close. It's likely we get a mean reversion bounce to sell into tomorrow (and if that bounce is good enough it could even negate the signal). If I do have to go risk off again, I'm likely to swap from the aggressive entry strategy over to the conservative entry strategy going forward so I'm not bounced in and out. It's a slower signal so I'll get back in at a higher level, but I also have less chance of whipsaw.
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Nice reversal in stocks today. S&P bounced off its 20 day SMA as well as its 150 week SMA today. R2K also bounced off of its 20 day SMA, as well as its 50 day SMA today. It's still hard to get too bearish on stocks as long as they hold those moving averages. Very common bull market behavior for these indexes to periodically pullback to check in with the moving averages before going higher. Not to say they will go higher, but as long as they stay above the moving averages the proof supports higher prices in the short term.

Also, my vol trend signal pulled back as well and just barely closed risk-on, so I will not be selling equities tomorrow in my trend allocation. Stocks have a little more leash to run.

Tomorrow may be a big day for GDX one way or the other. NEM, it's biggest holding, reports before the open.
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Ding we have a new cycle high for GDX!
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Hear, hear...let’s hope the trend continues.
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Today's chart of the day. Something that caught my eye that I find kind of interesting. Since the bottom on March 23, mid-caps have actually been the best performing cap tier.
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What small caps I had left in my 401k are getting moved over to large cap growth today. It was worth a shot on the mean reversion bid, but it's just not working out beyond that flash in the pan last week. Also, I think it possible that we get a pullback (potentially even another down leg) in stocks sometime in the mid-May - June timeframe, and I think large-cap growth is a safer place to stay in case that does happen.

Also, I'll see later about doing an in depth analysis of the bond markets since everyone here is talking a lot about bonds lately. Full disclosure, I did get stopped out on my VP TLT position. That 10% of my portfolio had been in bonds since last spring and I cashed in on a nice ~40% profit. That was a nice trend. It always sucks having a position stopped out, but they all get stopped out some day. If you're going to trade intermediate term trends, even your biggest winners will eventually end on a sour note. But, even though I was stopped out, I'm not sure it's all doom and gloom for treasuries going forward. It simply was time to lock in profits. For now, an argument could be made that it's just a pullback (we only just tapped the 31% fib retracement today). As such, I'm keeping an eye for potential buying opportunities, especially if equities start to sour again. More to come later.
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pmward wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 10:27 am I did get stopped out on my VP TLT position
Was that on crossing SMA50 or the support mid April ? Know that's not lead by tech indicatos, but end of April/begin of May there was a small interesting divergence between the price and MFI(14). Looking forward your bond review :o

Miners got kicked slightly today, it seems.
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pmward wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 6:56 pm Today's chart of the day. Something that caught my eye that I find kind of interesting. Since the bottom on March 23, mid-caps have actually been the best performing cap tier.
This graphic reminded me on one 'strategy' I read about couple of years ago (in a book with the same name as far as I can recall) - the 12% solution (claiming that's the average annual gain). Its 60/40 - equity/bonds with monthly rebalance. Equity part is chosen in between QQQ, SPY, MDY, IWM for the past 64 days - whichever is on top - that's the one to hold next month. If none goes above 0% - goes to cash. The same is done for the 40% bonds part - choice was between TLT and JNK ... ;D
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Ok bond market analysis. First, lets start off here with the TLT weekly chart. A couple things to notice. First is that ever since that initial rally from the March lows we have been range bound, but today we just broke below that range and set a lower low. If we close below 163.27 that is a point for the bears. Second thing to notice is that neat trend channel we held all through last year prior to the melt-up. It's possible that if bonds do have a big pull-back here, that we just go back into that past channel and continue grinding back higher. This is the third time we've broken above that up-trend, and the first two both failed and fell back in. Now we are way above upward sloping 20, 40, and 150 week moving averages. This is a point for the bulls. Under normal market conditions the price periodically goes back to check-in with the moving averages. That 20 week moving average at 153 would be the first "check-in". Lastly, momentum and relative strength are obviously fading. BUT, we had a massive rally off the lows in march. After a massive rally seeing declining momentum and relative strength is not always a bad sign. The rally was so strong that it is hard to keep up from a relative perspective. So on the whole, the weekly chart is mixed.

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Next we will take a look at the daily chart. What stand out most to me here? The 50 day moving average and the 38% Fib retracement are both being tested today. Currently we are below the 50 day SMA, but above the 38% Fib. This could be a perfect bounce point. If we close below both of those and below the last low of 163.27 that could open up the trap door. So what are the next support levels below that? 160 is an important level. We also have that 50% Fib retracement about $153. What else stands out to me here though? Look overhead. See those to massive gaps from today and yesterday? The market doesn't like to leave gaps like that unfilled. It's going to be difficult to really open up the trap door until we at least close those gaps (though not impossible). Also, $170 has been very strong resistance. Once again momentum and relative strength are fading, but after the massive rally that would be expected. So as of the moment, this chart is mixed as well.

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Next we will look at the 30 year yield. Notice how we were in a wedge formation, that broke out to the upside. Notice also how we busted above the 50 day SMA. This is a big point for the bears and something you cannot see in the TLT chart. You can also look back in April though, we tested the 50 day SMA and fell back down. So is this a repeat of March and a killer buying opportunity? Or is this the start of a leg up in yields? And if it is a leg up in yields, is it a retracement before going lower again, or is it the start of a new up trend? Only time will tell. However, of note is that RSI still has not gotten above 60. Usually 60 RSI is viewed as the cap for bear market rallies. So I would really want to see RSI above 60 in order to really give full credit to the yield rally. These are all simply puzzle pieces on the table at the moment.

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Lastly, let's take a look at IEI, as this chart looks much different. Notice how we really have went nowhere in weeks. We've just been pinned between 133 and about 133.25. To me, this chart is an interesting divergence, as this is a bull flag right here. You can clearly see the flag pole up and the flag just going sideways. The longer price knocks on resistance like that, the weaker the resistance level is. It slowly chips away at it. This chart, unlike TLT, to me looks extremely bullish. Also, even with price going nowhere, look at that RSI? It's still above 50. This chart looks super strong to me. So, is this hinting at a new bond rally? Or is this simply a laggard that will eventually get dragged down? Time will tell. These are all simply puzzle pieces on the table. You have to look at all the evidence as a whole, look from both sides, and make your own decision.

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