doodle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:34 am
I think if you delve into charter schools you will find that on the whole they don't perform much better than public schools and in some cases are far worse...the same goes for private school. In the cases they perform better those gains can largely be attributed to students being drawn from specific socioeconomic classes or having more engaged parents.
Well, for one thing, you're assuming that the point of an education is to make money. That is only one definition of "success".
https://www.aei.org/research-products/r ... ily-ethic/
Adults who attended Protestant schools are more than twice as likely to be in an intact marriage as those who attended public schools. They are also about 50% less likely than public-school attendees to have a child out of wedlock.
Among those who have ever married, Protestant-school attendees are about 60% less likely than public-school attendees to have ever divorced.
Compared with public-school attendees, ever-married adults who attended a secular private school are about 60% less likely to have ever divorced.
Catholic-school attendees are about 30% less likely to have had a child out of wedlock than those who attended public schools.
doodle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:34 am
As far as parents, I'm not saying that they shouldn't play a role in their child's education. Parents are of key importance to a child's learning. Parents are of key importance to their child's health as well but they don't chart the course of action to treat their child's cancer...they defer to medical experts. Of course they have room for input, but why have any experts at all if we are just going to allow lay people to decide how many milligrams of medicine should be dosed out or what treatment regimen should be followed?
But they do. It's up to the parents to decide which experts to follow. Which doctor they trust. And yes, if they want to do the research and come to a different conclusion on the number of milligrams of medicine, "are we just going to allow" that? YES! Who is the "we" who would step in and not allow it?
doodle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:34 am
I also believe there is a danger in parents indoctrinating their children and exerting control over them that is even scarier in some ways than the big bad boogeyman government that you fear....think scientologists and other religious cults.
In public schools teachers are actively prohibited from indoctrinating students into a particular way of thinking. I'm not allowed to express my personal opinions or attempt to persuade students to think a certain way. I'm there to try to open up pathways of critical thinking and to challenge students to question things. As a public school teacher I would have felt extremely uncomfortable trying to persuade students to think about the world in a particular manner....that's indoctrination, not education. When Trump talks about the need for patriotic education it sounds like he wants to create public centers of indoctrination.
What a joke. My local public kindergarten is literally covered in flyers, banners, and whatever other things that actively indoctrinates kids that men having buttsex with each other is the bee's knees.
Parents indoctrinating kids is literally their job. It's part of being a parent.