The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

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Post by dualstow » Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:35 am

Disney Parks’ diversity and inclusion manager, Vivian Ware, (says) the company has “removed all of the gendered greetings” at its theme parks. No more “Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.” No longer will a little girl in a gown be greeted with a “Hello, princess!”
https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/disney-is ... y-to-kids/
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by I Shrugged » Thu Mar 31, 2022 7:34 pm

dualstow wrote:
Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:35 am
Disney Parks’ diversity and inclusion manager, Vivian Ware, (says) the company has “removed all of the gendered greetings” at its theme parks. No more “Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.” No longer will a little girl in a gown be greeted with a “Hello, princess!”
https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/disney-is ... y-to-kids/
Oh for Christ’s sake.
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Post by Xan » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:43 pm

Then there's this:
Disney exec vows more gay characters amid huge inclusivity push
A Disney executive vowed more inclusivity in its productions — as the entertainment giant works to make underrepresented groups, such as racial minorities and the LGBTQ community, account for at least 50 percent of its regular characters by the end of the year.
“I’m here as a mother of two queer children, actually,” Burke said on the call. “One transgender child and one pansexual child, and also as a leader.”

It's fairly horrifying to hear a child described as anything-sexual, but I suppose we don't know how old this "child" is.

I wonder what the reaction would have been if she had said "I and everyone I know are the product of a male/female sexual union. My children only date people of the opposite sex. We need to have massively outsized representation of heteronormativity."

It seems to be the case that younger people have hugely higher rates of, let's say, alternative sexuality than people from older generations. Doesn't one have to conclude that the difference is a result of all the marketing about how awesome homosexuality is?

Interestingly, I think that makes (let's say for example) the church's traditionalist position on sexuality more palatable. In a world where less than 1% of people are homosexual (and are really devoted to it), the church could have the appearance of persecuting a helpless minority. In a world where 25% of people identify as something other than heterosexual, then the church is calling on people to voluntarily restrict their actions for their own good and that of their neighbors.

Restrict your thoughts to not coveting. (9th and 10th commandments)
Restrict your speaking to the truth, or the best construction on ambiguity. (8th commandment)
Restrict your actions to not stealing or murdering (or even anger). (7th and 5th commandments)
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. (Matthew 7:12)
Trust only in Jesus for salvation, not anything else. (John 14:6)

In a list like that (and other religions would have similar things), this one fits right in:
Restrict your sexuality to one member of the opposite sex. (6th commandment)
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Post by flyingpylon » Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:31 am

Xan wrote:
Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:43 pm

It seems to be the case that younger people have hugely higher rates of, let's say, alternative sexuality than people from older generations. Doesn't one have to conclude that the difference is a result of all the marketing about how awesome homosexuality is?
THIS. Adolescence and teen life can be rough, and there has always been an “alt” crowd or a variety of them. But now those crowds are formed around sexuality and gender and there are a lot of very confused kids that are just desperate to find a place to fit in.
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Post by dualstow » Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:24 am

Genuine gender dysphoria is a real thing and some adults need a sex change to feel right. But yeah, there are reports that it’s getting faddish. A camp counselor who’s trans had a lot of young campers who spontaneously decided they were “queer” or in need of a change. i’ve always been pro gay rights. i never thought I’d be sitting here thinking things have gone too far, but they have.
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Post by dualstow » Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:35 am

p.s. saw on fox biz that Disney plans to expand to 10 “anti-gay” countries, like Pakistan.
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Post by ppnewbie » Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:03 am

flyingpylon wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:31 am
Xan wrote:
Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:43 pm

It seems to be the case that younger people have hugely higher rates of, let's say, alternative sexuality than people from older generations. Doesn't one have to conclude that the difference is a result of all the marketing about how awesome homosexuality is?
THIS. Adolescence and teen life can be rough, and there has always been an “alt” crowd or a variety of them. But now those crowds are formed around sexuality and gender and there are a lot of very confused kids that are just desperate to find a place to fit in.
One concerning trend is that the medical industrial complex seems to be encouraging gender transitions at a relatively young age. The profit motive is HUGE per person.
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Post by I Shrugged » Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:04 pm

I read an article about sex, and instead of writing “woman”, they used the term “vagina-haver”. A man was a penis-haver.

No matter, soon those will be deemed offensive and will be replaced.
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Post by dualstow » Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:45 pm

I Shrugged wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:04 pm
I read an article about sex, and instead of writing “woman”, they used the term “vagina-haver”. A man was a penis-haver.

No matter, soon those will be deemed offensive and will be replaced.
I saw womb carrier in the past few days. I don’t suppose “big swinging dick” is acceptable for the other gender- oops, I mean one of the other 23 genders.
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Post by joypog » Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:25 pm

ohh...I want to be objectified into my genatalia. Much more wholesome than using traditional words.
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Post by Xan » Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:27 pm

dualstow wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:45 pm
I Shrugged wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:04 pm
I read an article about sex, and instead of writing “woman”, they used the term “vagina-haver”. A man was a penis-haver.

No matter, soon those will be deemed offensive and will be replaced.
I saw womb carrier in the past few days. I don’t suppose “big swinging dick” is acceptable for the other gender- oops, I mean one of the other 23 genders.
It seems like we'll need a word to describe "people with penises and testicles" and another to describe "people with vaginas". I'm curious what, exactly, is wrong with using "man" and "woman" as those words...? Why can't a man who likes to wear dresses and makeup not just be a man who likes to wear dresses and makeup?
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Post by dualstow » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:47 pm

We’re all just people with different operating systems, Xan. Some run Eunuchs.
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Post by Xan » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:02 pm

dualstow wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:47 pm
We’re all just people with different operating systems, Xan. Some run Eunuchs.
lol, that reminds me one time probably 30 years ago, my cousin and my grandmother were at the library and he asked for a book about Unix. I wish I'd been there to see her eyebrows shoot up!
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by I Shrugged » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:00 pm

dualstow wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:47 pm
We’re all just people with different operating systems, Xan. Some run Eunuchs.
Hahaha 🤣
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by joypog » Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:47 pm

dualstow wrote:
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We’re all just people with different operating systems, Xan. Some run Eunuchs.
Some cultures remove the stones, other cultures slice it all off.
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Post by dualstow » Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:02 am

🚧 I moved recent posts here so that in this thread we can continue pounding the Left 🚧
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Post by dualstow » Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:36 am

10,000+ words. So good.

ELEPHANT IN THE ZOOM
Meltdowns Have Brought Progressive Advocacy Groups to a Standstill at a Critical Moment in World History

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Post by joypog » Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:49 am

I started reading...but damn its long. Is the TLDR NGO's are a shitty place to work and it's gotten shittier in the past couple of years?
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Post by dualstow » Sun Jul 17, 2022 1:58 pm

joypog wrote:
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I started reading...but damn its long. Is the TLDR NGO's are a shitty place to work and it's gotten shittier in the past couple of years?
Well, there is this line:

“We used to want to make the world a better place,” said one leader of a progressive organization. “Now we just make our organizations more miserable to work at.”
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Post by dualstow » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:00 pm

Another great quote that makes you think of this thread’s title:
Another leader said the strife has become so destructive that it feels like an op. “I’m not saying it’s a right-wing plot, because we are incredibly good at doing ourselves in, but — if you tried — you couldn’t conceive of a better right-wing plot to paralyze progressive leaders by catalyzing the existing culture where internal turmoil and microcampaigns are mistaken for strategic advancement of social impact for the millions of people depending on these organizations to stave off the crushing injustices coming our way,” said another longtime organization head. “Progressive leaders cannot do anything but fight inside the orgs, thereby rendering the orgs completely toothless for the external battles in play. … Everyone is scared, and fear creates the inaction that the right wing needs to succeed in cementing a deeply unpopular agenda.”
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Post by joypog » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:53 pm

Having grown up in a reformed baptist church, I'm well aware of the dynamics of purity tests. In this moment where politics has become the religion of the left, I'm not at all surprised that those folks are as the thread title says, eating themselves.
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Post by vnatale » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:48 pm

dualstow wrote:
Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:00 pm

Another great quote that makes you think of this thread’s title:

Another leader said the strife has become so destructive that it feels like an op. “I’m not saying it’s a right-wing plot, because we are incredibly good at doing ourselves in, but — if you tried — you couldn’t conceive of a better right-wing plot to paralyze progressive leaders by catalyzing the existing culture where internal turmoil and microcampaigns are mistaken for strategic advancement of social impact for the millions of people depending on these organizations to stave off the crushing injustices coming our way,” said another longtime organization head. “Progressive leaders cannot do anything but fight inside the orgs, thereby rendering the orgs completely toothless for the external battles in play. … Everyone is scared, and fear creates the inaction that the right wing needs to succeed in cementing a deeply unpopular agenda.”



Read the whole thing. Long, long, long, long article. But worthwhile reading.
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Post by dualstow » Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:37 am

👍 Yeah, it’s over 10,000 words. I read the whole thing, with constant interruptions. It fits in well with the books I’ve been reading.
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Post by vnatale » Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:34 am

If Mountainman78629 had his way ... this forum would no longer need this topic?




“An anonymous entity named OtherwiseJello6 posted a Parler screenshot from Mountainman78629 that read:
There needs to be some reform. Liberals have proven for years they can't be trusted with anything. Just an option but not only should they not be allowed to hold office, they shouldn’t be allowed to vote. They are basically free ranging criminals who not only the US but the world would be better off without. To me, the easiest fix is every conservative kill 2 liberals. I’m almost sure most everyone knows one or 2. If we all killed 2 in a single day there would be so many dead but no one alive would give a damn. Immediately all our problems would be gone and life would be so good literally everyone would say, why do that sooner? We could turn earth, or at least the US into heaven by getting rid of the problem at the root.


Excerpt From: Malcolm W. Nance. “THEY WANT TO KILL AMERICANS: THE MILITIAS, TERRORISTS, AND DERANGED IDEOLOGY OF THE TRUMP INSURGENCY.” St. Martin's Press
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Post by Xan » Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:43 am

I'm sure there are plenty of examples of this kind of thinking from many ideologies.

I'm reminded of Zdogg's interview with Daniel Schmachtenberger (still highly recommended: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7aIgHoydP8) where the point is made that if we look at our fellow countrymen as the main problem, then things really can't hold together.

I would also point out that the book you're quoting seems to be largely doing just that.
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