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The North Thurston Public Schools in Lacey, Wash., made headlines in November when their “equity report” classified Asian-Americans along with whites instead of as “students of color.” Apparently the Asian-Americans were doing too well academically to be students of color. After what the district said was “an overwhelming public response,” it admitted its “category choices” had “racist implications” and dropped the equity report from its website.
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... America’s most progressive cities have been failing their black and Latino children for decades. How does New York Mayor Bill de Blasio respond? In January America’s self-styled progressive in chief announced that New York will abolish the entrance exam for the city’s gifted-and-talented programs for young students. If you can’t fix the schools that are broken, you cut down to size the schools that are working.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-woke-m ... opin_pos_2

dualstow wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:08 pm Also regarding the above.

Executive Editor Dean Baquet had previously declined to fire Mr. McNeil over the two-year-old incident, saying it was clear the term hadn’t been uttered in a “hateful or malicious” way.

But that was before a tsunami of intolerance from the forces of tolerance inside the paper. Mr. Baquet announced last week that Mr. McNeil would be leaving after all because “we do not tolerate racist language regardless of intent.” Oops, it was universally pointed out that the Times then would have to fire itself. A Factiva search shows the paper using the word 1,271 times as far back as 1969 and as recently as a week ago, as it must in covering the world. The new standard, “a threat to our journalism,” was “a deadline mistake and I regret it,” Mr. Baquet admitted on Thursday.

- WSJ Opinion / https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-times- ... 1613170637

Reminds me of the stoning scene in Life of Brian. Click for a much needed laugh, all!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv4PFgOmAsI

**** Response to dualstow here. I had to edit because apparently I've been shadow-banned to limit posts.

dualstow wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:53 am I don’t even need to click. it’s the Jehovah utterances, right?

Yup. And especially the part about every one of them being taken out of context.

It is amazing to me how on point virtually all of Life of Brian was. So many of the political battles going on today were pre-spoofed in that movie. Actually not so much spoofed as depicted in a way that faithfully represents current arguments and underscores how ridiculous many of them are. Other scenes that come to mind are the "I want you to call me Loretta" scene, the fighting between the People's Front of Judea and the Judean People's Front, and the scene about "We hate the Romans and what have they ever done for us" - followed by a long list of things like the aqueduct, roads, keeping order etc.

Not to mention my personal favorite: "Crucifixion?" "Yes" "Good. Line on the left, one cross each."

I don’t even need to click. it’s the Jehovah utterances, right?

This topic seems to have reached that magic number of pages so that the "last unread post" feature is no longer reliable...anyone else experiencing the same in this topic? It seemed to work fine within the last half hour but not this lat time I came into it.

vnatale wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:03 am This topic seems to have reached that magic number of pages so that the "last unread post" feature is no longer reliable...anyone else experiencing the same in this topic? It seemed to work fine within the last half hour but not this lat time I came into it.

This is one of those threads that I’ve had to bookmark or rediscover with a google search.

dualstow wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:10 am

vnatale wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:03 am
This topic seems to have reached that magic number of pages so that the "last unread post" feature is no longer reliable...anyone else experiencing the same in this topic? It seemed to work fine within the last half hour but not this lat time I came into it.

This is one of those threads that I’ve had to bookmark or rediscover with a google search.

Worked fine this time around...

sophie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:51 am

dualstow wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:08 pm Also regarding the above.

Executive Editor Dean Baquet had previously declined to fire Mr. McNeil over the two-year-old incident, saying it was clear the term hadn’t been uttered in a “hateful or malicious” way.

But that was before a tsunami of intolerance from the forces of tolerance inside the paper. Mr. Baquet announced last week that Mr. McNeil would be leaving after all because “we do not tolerate racist language regardless of intent.” Oops, it was universally pointed out that the Times then would have to fire itself. A Factiva search shows the paper using the word 1,271 times as far back as 1969 and as recently as a week ago, as it must in covering the world. The new standard, “a threat to our journalism,” was “a deadline mistake and I regret it,” Mr. Baquet admitted on Thursday.

- WSJ Opinion / https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-times- ... 1613170637

Reminds me of the stoning scene in Life of Brian. Click for a much needed laugh, all!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv4PFgOmAsI

**** Response to dualstow here. I had to edit because apparently I've been shadow-banned to limit posts.

dualstow wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:53 am I don’t even need to click. it’s the Jehovah utterances, right?

Yup. And especially the part about every one of them being taken out of context.

It is amazing to me how on point virtually all of Life of Brian was. So many of the political battles going on today were pre-spoofed in that movie. Actually not so much spoofed as depicted in a way that faithfully represents current arguments and underscores how ridiculous many of them are. Other scenes that come to mind are the "I want you to call me Loretta" scene, the fighting between the People's Front of Judea and the Judean People's Front, and the scene about "We hate the Romans and what have they ever done for us" - followed by a long list of things like the aqueduct, roads, keeping order etc.

Not to mention my personal favorite: "Crucifixion?" "Yes" "Good. Line on the left, one cross each."

I always thought a very, very thin book would be, "Women who like Monty Python".

Bravo Sophie!

sophie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:51 am Reminds me of the stoning scene in Life of Brian. Click for a much needed laugh, all!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv4PFgOmAsI

**** Response to dualstow here. I had to edit because apparently I've been shadow-banned to limit posts.

dualstow wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:53 am I don’t even need to click. it’s the Jehovah utterances, right?

Yup. And especially the part about every one of them being taken out of context.

I Shrugged wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:58 pm I always thought a very, very thin book would be, "Women who like Monty Python".

Bravo Sophie!

Thanks!

I think the very thin book would be "Women Geeks" - but if you start with that subset, you'll find no shortage of Monty Python fans. Maddy - what about you???

I'm hardly neurotypical, but I confess that my one exposure to Monte Python (a movie about 40 years ago in which the characters pranced around on make-believe horses) left me thinking, "I don't get it!"

MangoMan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:31 am
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1 ... 1282179075

A poll showing the main concerns of Dem vs Rep voters. It's no wonder the left is unhappy. Everything is about feelings rather than actual problems.

Reviewed both lists. My interpretation is that it is the Republicans who are more concerned with perceived problems than actual problems. Republican concerns are mostly centered upon them being victims.

vnatale wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:17 pm

MangoMan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:31 am https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1 ... 1282179075

A poll showing the main concerns of Dem vs Rep voters. It's no wonder the left is unhappy. Everything is about feelings rather than actual problems.

Reviewed both lists. My interpretation is that it is the Republicans who are more concerned with perceived problems than actual problems. Republican concerns are mostly centered upon them being victims.

I'm sure we have a thread on it, Vin, but I'm a centrist and I consider lax immigration enforcement to be a serious problem, or potential problem. There's a reason Biden is continuing with the "children in cages" which, now that Biden is in command, are referred to as "facilities." Maybe it's time for a new thread on that, at least.

dualstow wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:22 pm

vnatale wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:17 pm

MangoMan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:31 am
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1 ... 1282179075

A poll showing the main concerns of Dem vs Rep voters. It's no wonder the left is unhappy. Everything is about feelings rather than actual problems.

Reviewed both lists. My interpretation is that it is the Republicans who are more concerned with perceived problems than actual problems. Republican concerns are mostly centered upon them being victims.

I'm sure we have a thread on it, Vin, but I'm a centrist and I consider lax immigration enforcement to be a serious problem, or potential problem. There's a reason Biden is continuing with the "children in cages" which, now that Biden is in command, are referred to as "facilities." Maybe it's time for a new thread on that, at least.

It was a list of 12 for which significant concern was expressed...therefore my response was not just directed to the top one. I stated an overall impression from looking at all 12.

Also, I'll throw this one in there. Most of the Republican concerns are centered upon how they believe things affect them personally, not society as a whole.

MangoMan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:24 pm

vnatale wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:05 pm

dualstow wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:22 pm

vnatale wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:17 pm

MangoMan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:31 am
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1 ... 1282179075

A poll showing the main concerns of Dem vs Rep voters. It's no wonder the left is unhappy. Everything is about feelings rather than actual problems.

Reviewed both lists. My interpretation is that it is the Republicans who are more concerned with perceived problems than actual problems. Republican concerns are mostly centered upon them being victims.

I'm sure we have a thread on it, Vin, but I'm a centrist and I consider lax immigration enforcement to be a serious problem, or potential problem. There's a reason Biden is continuing with the "children in cages" which, now that Biden is in command, are referred to as "facilities." Maybe it's time for a new thread on that, at least.

It was a list of 12 for which significant concern was expressed...therefore my response was not just directed to the top one. I stated an overall impression from looking at all 12.

Also, I'll throw this one in there. Most of the Republican concerns are centered upon how they believe things affect them personally, not society as a whole.

With the exception of High Taxes (which could debatably be bad for the entire economy), which of those items specifically "affect them personally"? Because when I look at that GOP list, it seems like they are all societal.

Those which either affect them personally via their affiliated groups or which are grossly imagined large society problems or both would be:

1) Lack of support for the police
2) Liberal bias in mainstream media
3) General moral decline of the country
4) Socialism
5) Antifa violence
6) China
7) Legal abortion in the third trimester
Election fraud
9) Tech company censorship
10) Discrimination against Christians

Now that you motivated me to create list I now see I could have more efficiently responded by stating: "All but the first one".

I don't agree with all on the Democrats' list but I believe that far more on their list have applicability to those outside of their affiliated groups or are not imagined or both.

MangoMan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:47 pm

vnatale wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:43 pm

MangoMan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:24 pm

vnatale wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:05 pm

dualstow wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:22 pm

vnatale wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:17 pm

MangoMan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:31 am
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1 ... 1282179075

A poll showing the main concerns of Dem vs Rep voters. It's no wonder the left is unhappy. Everything is about feelings rather than actual problems.

Reviewed both lists. My interpretation is that it is the Republicans who are more concerned with perceived problems than actual problems. Republican concerns are mostly centered upon them being victims.

I'm sure we have a thread on it, Vin, but I'm a centrist and I consider lax immigration enforcement to be a serious problem, or potential problem. There's a reason Biden is continuing with the "children in cages" which, now that Biden is in command, are referred to as "facilities." Maybe it's time for a new thread on that, at least.

It was a list of 12 for which significant concern was expressed...therefore my response was not just directed to the top one. I stated an overall impression from looking at all 12.

Also, I'll throw this one in there. Most of the Republican concerns are centered upon how they believe things affect them personally, not society as a whole.

With the exception of High Taxes (which could debatably be bad for the entire economy), which of those items specifically "affect them personally"? Because when I look at that GOP list, it seems like they are all societal.

Those which either affect them personally via their affiliated groups or which are grossly imagined large society problems or both would be:

1) Lack of support for the police
2) Liberal bias in mainstream media
3) General moral decline of the country
4) Socialism
5) Antifa violence
6) China
7) Legal abortion in the third trimester
Election fraud
9) Tech company censorship
10) Discrimination against Christians

Now that you motivated me to create list I now see I could have more efficiently responded by stating: "All but the first one".

I don't agree with all on the Democrats' list but I believe that far more on their list have applicability to those outside of their affiliated groups or are not imagined or both.

And there's the problem. YOU think they are grossly imagined. Republicans think they are very real and extremely important, just like climate change is to the left. And you still haven't explained how any of these things are personal rather than societal. For instance, how is 'China' a personal issue?

Explain to me how this is one bit different from what you started this by saying: "It's no wonder the left is unhappy. Everything is about feelings rather than actual problems."

Is that not you starting that YOU believe all all what the Republicans believe ARE actual problems while NONE of what the Democrats believe are actual problems?

Again I stated: "Those which either affect them personally via their affiliated groups or which are grossly imagined large society problems or both would be"

Chine is not a "personal issue" but a "grossly imagined large society problem".

If they really believed the latter why are they all spending so much money on China products? Actions always speak for one's true values rather than the values one espouses.

tomfoolery wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:25 pm General moral decline of country is a personal problem for people who think women shouldn't vote and aren't allowed to have a penis.

Good news! Everyone is now allowed to have a penis--and at taxpayer expense.

Maddy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:02 am

tomfoolery wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:25 pm General moral decline of country is a personal problem for people who think women shouldn't vote and aren't allowed to have a penis.

Good news! Everyone is now allowed to have a penis--and at taxpayer expense.

If you’re late will you be penalized?

dualstow wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:06 am

Maddy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:02 am

tomfoolery wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:25 pm General moral decline of country is a personal problem for people who think women shouldn't vote and aren't allowed to have a penis.

Good news! Everyone is now allowed to have a penis--and at taxpayer expense.

If you’re late will you be penalized?

You have to say that the way Alex Trebek did or it doesn't make sense.

I miss Trebek’s enunciations already. End of an era.
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on topic: THE ELECT: THE THREAT TO A PROGRESSIVE AMERICA FROM ANTI-BLACK ANTIRACISTS
I don’t think John McWhorter means any offense to the deeply religious, nor do I when I post it. It’s pitch perfect in my opinion.

https://johnmcwhorter.substack.com/p/th ... rogressive

dualstow wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:39 pm I miss Trebek’s enunciations already. End of an era.
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on topic: THE ELECT: THE THREAT TO A PROGRESSIVE AMERICA FROM ANTI-BLACK ANTIRACISTS
I don’t think John McWhorter means any offense to the deeply religious, nor do I when I post it. It’s pitch perfect in my opinion.

https://johnmcwhorter.substack.com/p/th ... rogressive

McWhorter is a genius and one of my favorite people to listen to, despite being as he describes a "cranky liberal Democrat". And it's all because he's one of a small number of voices willing to say true things, rather than the "right" things, about race.

I know his arguments about antiracism as a religion are couched in a mostly anti-religious context. Even reading them as a religious person, his points remain pretty much valid, and it's easy to interpret them as saying that antiracism as a religion detracts from and competes against true religion, which I believe it does.

Everyone has a religion (or "worldview" if you like) and McWhorter is writing from the perspective of his atheistic-materialistic-scientism outlook, which is just another religion, so his complaints against "religion" in general still apply to himself, and really the essay is describing how antiracism detracts from and competes against true religion. You can just plug in whichever true religion you want.

I do wonder what it would be like for somebody who is a member of the Church of Woke to read that.

Xan wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:48 pm

dualstow wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:39 pm ...
on topic: THE ELECT: THE THREAT TO A PROGRESSIVE AMERICA FROM ANTI-BLACK ANTIRACISTS
I don’t think John McWhorter means any offense to the deeply religious, nor do I when I post it. It’s pitch perfect in my opinion.

https://johnmcwhorter.substack.com/p/th ... rogressive

McWhorter is a genius and one of my favorite people to listen to,
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Even reading them as a religious person, his points remain pretty much valid,
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Everyone has a religion (or "worldview" if you like) and McWhorter is writing from the perspective of his atheistic-materialistic-scientism outlook, which is just another religion, so his complaints against "religion" in general still apply to himself,

Absolutely.

I do wonder what it would be like for somebody who is a member of the Church of Woke to read that.

Oh, they would roll their eyes as he often says. If they even bothered to push through the first paragraph.
I'm glad you're a fan, too. I'm afraid he doesn't have enough of a following in this new woke world.

Do you guys listen to The Glenn Show podcast where Glenn Loury often talks to John McWhorter? That's one of my favorite podcasts. I hardly miss an episode. Those two guys are great.

stuper1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:10 pm Do you guys listen to The Glenn Show podcast where Glenn Loury often talks to John McWhorter? That's one of my favorite podcasts. I hardly miss an episode. Those two guys are great.

Oh yes. Bloggingheads TV on youtube. So great, both of them. Glenn even lets John get a word in nowadays.

I must have first encountered John McWhorter on C-Span's Book TV...would have been him being interviewed regarding one of his books. I was sufficiently impressed by it to buy several of his books.

I read through the above once. Quite long. Hope to be able to motivate myself to read is again.

Sent it on to several others.

vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:13 pm I must have first encountered John McWhorter on C-Span's Book TV...would have been him being interviewed regarding one of his books. I was sufficiently impressed by it to buy several of his books.

I read through the above once. Quite long. Hope to be able to motivate myself to read is again.

Sent it on to several others.

You're a fan, too? Excellent. I posted some of his videos on this forum in the past, including Bloggingheads, but I don't remember it getting much traction. Maybe Xan or Tortoise.