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European ETF Alternatives

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:11 am
by gospodin_i
I'm based in the EU, been running a US-based (USD) PP for about 6 months spread in ETFs.

I am now looking at diversifying further by buying specific sector/industry-tracking ETFs (such as VGT, FINX, etc.)

However, due to a recent change in regulation, I cannot trade most of the ETFs I'm interested in. Spoke to my broker and they said I can keep my open positions indefinitely, but I'd have to find alternative ETFs, based in Europe, that fulfill the regulation criteria and can be traded by European investors.

I suspect some of the people who participate in this forum have had to deal with the same challenge, so I'm wondering if there's an easy way to look for and find such alternatives?

Re: European ETF Alternatives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:24 am
by boglerdude
Why are these regulations in place

Re: European ETF Alternatives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:01 am
by gospodin_i
Consumer protection supposedly, but it might also be a veiled attempt to prop the European ETF scene:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -an-option

Re: European ETF Alternatives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:00 pm
by LazyInvestor
I'd guess these are broker restrictions. Open an account with another and it should work. Be aware of estate taxes since you are buying US-domiciled ETFs.

Re: European ETF Alternatives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:04 pm
by Tyler
gospodin_i wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:11 am
I suspect some of the people who participate in this forum have had to deal with the same challenge, so I'm wondering if there's an easy way to look for and find such alternatives?
Try this: https://portfoliocharts.com/portfolio/index-funds/

It has a decent collection of ETFs listed on UK and German exchanges.

Also, Justetf.com is a great resource for European investors.

Re: European ETF Alternatives

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:16 am
by gospodin_i
LazyInvestor wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:00 pm
I'd guess these are broker restrictions. Open an account with another and it should work. Be aware of estate taxes since you are buying US-domiciled ETFs.
Unfortunately, not broker restrictions, but just a decision by US fund managers not to comply (at least for now) with EU regulation. It seems things might change at some point in the next year though...

Re: European ETF Alternatives

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:36 am
by gospodin_i
Tyler wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:04 pm

Try this: https://portfoliocharts.com/portfolio/index-funds/

It has a decent collection of ETFs listed on UK and German exchanges.

Also, Justetf.com is a great resource for European investors.
Thanks, those are super helpful!

Re: European ETF Alternatives

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:33 pm
by LazyInvestor
gospodin_i wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:16 am
LazyInvestor wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:00 pm
I'd guess these are broker restrictions. Open an account with another and it should work. Be aware of estate taxes since you are buying US-domiciled ETFs.
Unfortunately, not broker restrictions, but just a decision by US fund managers not to comply (at least for now) with EU regulation. It seems things might change at some point in the next year though...
Which broker are you using?

Re: European ETF Alternatives

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:25 pm
by boglerdude
And whats the intent of the regulations

Re: European ETF Alternatives

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:29 pm
by Bjorgen
Check out these options:
http://www.carterapermanente.es/cartera ... -con-etfs/

My PP:
ZPRE
4GLD
EL4V
EXVM

Re: European ETF Alternatives

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:49 am
by Thomas Hoog
boglerdude wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:25 pm
And whats the intent of the regulations
To protect the customer. The products of the EFT provider should be in the language of the buyer of the EFT. So if you live in Norway the EFT product information should be in Norwegian. I doubt if Vanguard knows where Norway is. So it is stupid antique regulation. English should be sufficiënt.