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Cash is King!

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:06 am
by eufo
Friday was a great example of why we hold cash. It's not much comfort when the portfolio is shrinking, but it's important to consider that it would have been worse had we been more exposed. In fact, it's likely it may continue on Monday.

Seeing both equities and bonds fall has been expected for awhile. But, the fall in commodities (especially gold) makes me wonder if there's some deleveraging to happen in that asset class as well.

Either way, love your cash!

Re: Cash is King!

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:12 pm
by ochotona
Cash is really king right now.

Re: Cash is King!

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:59 pm
by dualstow
I was listening to a 1978 clip of Lou Adler, who died earlier this year, just to hear his voice and wow-
listen to the bit about treasuries! Start at 2:45 (just a 6-second blurb)
https://youtu.be/PTKDEPwfEas?t=2m45s

Re: Cash is King!

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:14 pm
by eufo
Seeing this thread dug up made me take a look to see how the various portions of the PP are doing... Cash has remained King for this time period.

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Re: Cash is King!

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:09 am
by Mr Vacuum
Is the green line the dollar index $USD? If so I question its use in this comparison, it being a ratio against other currencies, not a model of a cash instrument. It may reverse course just as quickly at any time, as it did in the six months or so after the 2016 election. Try SHV or SHY. Either is still a fine anchor.

Re: Cash is King!

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:27 am
by eufo
Mr Vacuum wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:09 am
Is the green line the dollar index $USD? If so I question its use in this comparison, it being a ratio against other currencies, not a model of a cash instrument. It may reverse course just as quickly at any time, as it did in the six months or so after the 2016 election. Try SHV or SHY. Either is still a fine anchor.
It is. Nevermind, I guess. I'd prefer cash under the mattress over SHV, but that's just me, I suppose. I still like cash over all else but gold at the moment.

Re: Cash is King!

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:16 am
by Don
I have a 5 year CD coming due that paid me 2% interest. Where would be a good place to roll this into right now?

Re: Cash is King!

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:30 am
by dualstow
Don wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:16 am
I have a 5 year CD coming due that paid me 2% interest. Where would be a good place to roll this into right now?
How about 2-year treasury notes.

Re: Cash is King!

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:56 pm
by barrett
dualstow wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:30 am
Don wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:16 am
I have a 5 year CD coming due that paid me 2% interest. Where would be a good place to roll this into right now?
How about 2-year treasury notes.
Check out the treasury yield curve here:

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-cente ... data=yield

I've just been doing a one year ladder. So far every time I have a T-Bill come due (every three months as I have four rungs on my ladder), I've been able to replace it with a higher yielding bill. Of course the trend in rates could reverse itself but the Fed is planning to keep raising for now.

Re: Cash is King!

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:58 pm
by jhogue
If possible, why not split your purchase? Also, given the recent rise in interest rates and inflation, I think the better deals are to found right now in shorter maturities than your 5 year bank CD.

Consider:

1. One year US Treasury bill @ 2.70%.

2. Series I savings bond, currently @ 2.62%. (Wait to purchase until after 11/01/18, since the fixed rate may well rise.)

Re: Cash is King!

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:10 pm
by dualstow
And if you're worried about inflation, even Vanguard's Treasury money market is not a bad deal, provided you can meet the minimum. I have my core cash there.

Re: Cash is King!

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:08 pm
by barrett
dualstow wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:10 pm
And if you're worried about inflation, even Vanguard's Treasury money market is not a bad deal, provided you can meet the minimum. I have my core cash there.
dualstow, can you tell me what the expense ratio is on that Vanguard fund? Was reading up on a similar fund at Fido but it seemed expensive. And you have check writing "privileges" on that account as well, right?

Re: Cash is King!

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:01 pm
by dualstow
barrett wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:08 pm
dualstow, can you tell me what the expense ratio is on that Vanguard fund? Was reading up on a similar fund at Fido but it seemed expensive. And you have check writing "privileges" on that account as well, right?
Yup, it's 0.09%, so US$9 on every 10,000 invested. Sure, treasuries are free, but this pays every month and you don't have to replace it.
If you want to see the full page, just go to vanguard and search for 11. That's the fund number.
I think Fido costs a lot more.

You *can* have checkwriting privileges, but a lot of my checkbooks were rendered unusable when they consolated "brokerage" accounts and "fund" accounts into one thing. I've been too lazy to get new checkbooks for most of my funds because I never write checks from anything other than the settlement fund, anyway. (Settlement = Federal Money Market these days, not Prime, not Treasury).