A CombiBar Thread

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A CombiBar Thread

Post by dualstow » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:43 am

This is a genuine question, not a challenge: Let’s say you wanted to buy or sell a single unit, a gram of gold from one of these “bars” which is actually a thin card of gold. Other than trying to find a reputable dealer, how would you test to make sure that piece is real gold? What tools would be best for that?

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Post by Smith1776 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:50 pm

I am no expert but have a modicum of knowledge.

1) Weigh the piece of gold.
2) There are some chemicals you can apply to the surface of the gold and silver. You can confirm the presence of precious metals based on the reaction.
3) I've seen machines where people put the gold/silver in a vessel of water, and some kind of measurement done related to density or volume can help confirm.

That's at gold dealers though. Hard to confirm on the spot if you're using the gold to buy groceries in a hyper-inflation world. I imagine that's probably what you're getting at.

P.S. I'm currently fondling my favourite gold pieces... my MapleGrams. O0
For the money you can't afford to lose, why would you invest it in anything other than the PP? ???
Check out the Goldsmith PP: https://www.gyroscopicinvesting.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9613
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Re: A CombiBar Thread

Post by dualstow » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:58 pm

That is what I'm getting at, but those are interesting notes just the same.
Maybe people will just bite the grams like in the old days. O0
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Re: A CombiBar Thread

Post by Mark Leavy » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:01 pm

dualstow wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:43 am
This is a genuine question, not a challenge: Let’s say you wanted to buy or sell a single unit, a gram of gold from one of these “bars” which is actually a thin card of gold. Other than trying to find a reputable dealer, how would you test to make sure that piece is real gold? What tools would be best for that?
Calipers, a pocket "50/0.001" gram scale and then "bite it" or push a pin into it.
If it passes all three, it's good.

Edit: Ah, I see dualstow was ahead of me. Good call.
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Post by ppnewbie » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:17 am

These bars are in high demand and I figure they will also be very easy to resell. Plus they are super cool. I think the PAMP multigrams and the maple grams wound actually be more practical in a zombie apocalypse (the imminent zombie apocalypse). I believe the PAMP multigrams are in individual assays and maybe the maplegrams.
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Re: A CombiBar Thread

Post by Smith1776 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:17 am

ppnewbie wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:17 am
These bars are in high demand and I figure they will also be very easy to resell. Plus they are super cool. I think the PAMP multigrams and the maple grams wound actually be more practical in a zombie apocalypse (the imminent zombie apocalypse). I believe the PAMP multigrams are in individual assays and maybe the maplegrams.
I am very biased towards maplegrams myself... but that combibar looks hella cool.

It always make me think of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory for some reason.
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Re: A CombiBar Thread

Post by dualstow » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:33 am

Mark Leavy wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:01 pm
dualstow wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:43 am
This is a genuine question, not a challenge: Let’s say you wanted to buy or sell a single unit, a gram of gold from one of these “bars” which is actually a thin card of gold. Other than trying to find a reputable dealer, how would you test to make sure that piece is real gold? What tools would be best for that?
Calipers, a pocket "50/0.001" gram scale and then "bite it" or push a pin into it.
If it passes all three, it's good.
Makes sense.
Smith1776 wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:17 am
I am very biased towards maplegrams myself... but that combibar looks hella cool.

It always make me think of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory for some reason.
Break me off a piece'a'that com-bi-bar
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Re: A CombiBar Thread

Post by technovelist » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:18 pm

Smith1776 wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:50 pm
I am no expert but have a modicum of knowledge.

1) Weigh the piece of gold.
2) There are some chemicals you can apply to the surface of the gold and silver. You can confirm the presence of precious metals based on the reaction.
3) I've seen machines where people put the gold/silver in a vessel of water, and some kind of measurement done related to density or volume can help confirm.
Yes, 3 is the old school "Eureka" method.
Very old school: https://www.livescience.com/58839-archi ... ciple.html
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Re: A CombiBar Thread

Post by ppnewbie » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:24 am

I realized one big advantage of stacking combibars is that dealers will be happy to buy them back because they are so popular. That could change but IMO I think they will stay popular.
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