gold beats bonds for 30 years

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gold beats bonds for 30 years

Post by mathjak107 » Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:52 am

gold has beaten equities the last 20 years believe it or not ,
but that is the only time frame for the most part

but gold is not a competitor to stocks .gold is a competitor to bonds . it goes with stocks .

a 50/50 of equities and gold has beaten equities and bonds over every time frame for more than 30 years… bonds had their great bull market but a 50/50 of equities and gold has beaten the classic combo of equities and bonds .

so never compare equities to gold , equities work with gold when one does not want 100% equities

10k grew to :

30 years equity bonds grew to 87,429 , equities gold 115,033

25 years 46,967 with equities bonds and 75,972 equites gold

20 years 39,031 equites bonds and equities gold 68,094

15 year 25,236 equities bonds , and equities gold 31,779

10 years 19,951 equities bonds , and equities gold 20,736

5 years 13,076 equites bonds 13,076 and equities and gold 15,739

3 years 9833 equities and bonds , equities and gold 10,696

1 year 8,786 equities and bonds 8786 , equities and gold 9661
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Re: gold beats bonds for 30 years

Post by Hal » Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:00 am

Thanks Mathjack,

Quite interesting. Is the only purpose of holding bonds to reduce volatility?
As an aside, just happened to come across this a couple of minutes ago.
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Re: gold beats bonds for 30 years

Post by mathjak107 » Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:15 am

i guess in a recession or depression bonds may do better but more typically the last 30 years no reason for the bonds evidently as we have had recession , covid , the dot com bust etc.

maybe if we look at individual years we can find some years it wasn’t true that gold won out but by the end of each 5 year period gold was back in the lead despite the bull market in bonds we had
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Re: gold beats bonds for 30 years

Post by dualstow » Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:17 am

Whatever the rear view mirror shows, I still like holding some treasuries.
Interesting, though. Makes me feel better about the gold I’m holding.
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Re: gold beats bonds for 30 years

Post by mathjak107 » Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:44 am

dualstow wrote:
Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:17 am
Whatever the rear view mirror shows, I still like holding some treasuries.
Interesting, though. Makes me feel better about the gold I’m holding.
no one can say what the future will be like . but we certainly can talk about what already transpired in the past
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Re: gold beats bonds for 30 years

Post by dualstow » Sat Apr 15, 2023 10:14 am

Of course. It’s interesting.
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Re: gold beats bonds for 30 years

Post by Hal » Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:07 pm

Mathjaks observation from a Gold perspective.
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