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Joe Biden fans?

Post by vnatale » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:19 pm

I'm definitely read a lot here regarding Trump. Don't remember reading anything regarding Joe Biden. Are there any Joe Biden fans here?
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Post by geaux saints » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:07 pm

I don't dislike him; I assume you have an opinion since you asked; what do you think about Biden?
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Post by vnatale » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:41 pm

I detest him. When Obama was considering a vice president, I was ABB - anyone but Biden.

I could vote for any of the existing Democratic candidates except for him and Bernie. If it came down to either of them against Trump, I'd be a third party voter.

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I don't dislike him; I assume you have an opinion since you asked; what do you think about Biden?
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Post by Smith1776 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:51 pm

Every person is a mosaic of good and bad. Two things that I REALLY don't like about Biden, however:

1) He not only did not support Snowden, but actively tried to thwart his attempts at asylum.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... sylum.html

2) He's super creepy.
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Post by jacksonm2 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:57 pm

He's a likable fellow as many people seem to agree and this might very well win him the presidency but if you look at his record you can see that he has a very strained relationship with the truth.

If you aren't old enough to remember the first time he ran for president he had to drop out because of a speech he gave that was plagiarized. You could probably forgive that if the speech merely reflected his ideas but it was about growing up as a coal miner's son and the fact that he would tell it as his own story apparently struck too many people as evidence of extreme pathology.

He still tells the story about how his son was killed by a drunk trunk driver when in fact the driver of the truck was not only not drunk and was not even at fault in the incident. The truck driver's family has filed a lawsuit for defamation of character. Not sure what became of it or if is even still pending but he still tells the same story to this day.

So, of course, we should believe when he talks about his son.

If you think Donald Trump is a bold-faced liar which some people here do and I will have to admit that he at least exaggerates and spins the truth in his favor on a non-stop basis. So if it comes down to Trump vs Biden, you'll have to pick which liar you like the best.
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Post by vnatale » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:21 pm

One of my reasons was your #2. I was not aware of #1.

But I've been against him since he was the chair of the judiciary in the Thomas hearings. And, due to his cowardly actions during that it resulted in Thomas going on the Supreme Court. I have never forgiven him for that and believed that if he had an ounce of integrity he would have forever taken himself out of public life.

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Every person is a mosaic of good and bad. Two things that I REALLY don't like about Biden, however:

1) He not only did not support Snowden, but actively tried to thwart his attempts at asylum.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... sylum.html

2) He's super creepy.
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Post by vnatale » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:27 pm

I'll add to my prior comments regarding him as I have NEVER found him likable.

1) His speech patterns wherein he is constantly repeating a word, phrase, sentence. Like we, his audience, are all kindergarteners!

2) The first time ever heard of him was over that plagerism. That was never, though, a major factor with me.

3) I just recently found out him being totally inaccurate regarding that driver. Just another example of his lack of integrity.

4) Finally, he and Bernie have to both be severely delusional that either of them at their ages can successfully be the president of the most powerful country in the world. This is a real job. Not one where you just run around giving speeches when you feel like it. They both show no integrity when they each believe that they are better than all else in the world to be our president.

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Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:57 pm
He's a likable fellow as many people seem to agree and this might very well win him the presidency but if you look at his record you can see that he has a very strained relationship with the truth.

If you aren't old enough to remember the first time he ran for president he had to drop out because of a speech he gave that was plagiarized. You could probably forgive that if the speech merely reflected his ideas but it was about growing up as a coal miner's son and the fact that he would tell it as his own story apparently struck too many people as evidence of extreme pathology.

He still tells the story about how his son was killed by a drunk trunk driver when in fact the driver of the truck was not only not drunk and was not even at fault in the incident. The truck driver's family has filed a lawsuit for defamation of character. Not sure what became of it or if is even still pending but he still tells the same story to this day.

So, of course, we should believe when he talks about his son.

If you think Donald Trump is a bold-faced liar which some people here do and I will have to admit that he at least exaggerates and spins the truth in his favor on a non-stop basis. So if it comes down to Trump vs Biden, you'll have to pick which liar you like the best.
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Post by vnatale » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:29 pm

How many of those you did watch those Thomas hearings? I think I saw it all.

How many of you noticed whereby Biden revealed his cave man attitude towards women? He was clearly a male who thought you talked one way about women in public but when in private (like a locker room)...….that played out in the disgraceful way he handled Anita Hill and anyone else who wanted to testify. As I stated below, he just took the coward's way out.

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Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:21 pm
One of my reasons was your #2. I was not aware of #1.

But I've been against him since he was the chair of the judiciary in the Thomas hearings. And, due to his cowardly actions during that it resulted in Thomas going on the Supreme Court. I have never forgiven him for that and believed that if he had an ounce of integrity he would have forever taken himself out of public life.

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Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:51 pm
Every person is a mosaic of good and bad. Two things that I REALLY don't like about Biden, however:

1) He not only did not support Snowden, but actively tried to thwart his attempts at asylum.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... sylum.html

2) He's super creepy.
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Post by geaux saints » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:28 pm

I was also unaware of his work against Snowden; that's pretty disqualifying in my book.
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Post by jacksonm2 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:54 pm

I watched most of the Thomas hearings and learned all about the pubic hairs comment which Anita Hill said he made to her in the break room at work.

And though it wasn't clearly established, some evidence was introduced that he may have rented pornographic movies at an adult book store (which I don't give a shit about - too bad there was no internet back then).

Pales in comparison now to the allegations of spiked punch to rape women along with his friend that were raised against Kavanaugh.

Howard Metzenberg,whom you may have never heard of but was was my Senator in Ohio at the time, was the most obnoxious member in that fiasco. Biden portrayed himself as being above board during the whole thing but if other senators are to believed he expressed to them that he didn't believe Hill's testimony at the time even though he went through with airing the allegations before the whole country.

Pretty sleazy character in my book but quite the typical politician. We could probably do better in electing presidents but it is what it is. At least we have Donald Trump now promising to drain the swamp.
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Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:29 pm
How many of those you did watch those Thomas hearings? I think I saw it all.

How many of you noticed whereby Biden revealed his cave man attitude towards women? He was clearly a male who thought you talked one way about women in public but when in private (like a locker room)...….that played out in the disgraceful way he handled Anita Hill and anyone else who wanted to testify. As I stated below, he just took the coward's way out.

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Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:21 pm
One of my reasons was your #2. I was not aware of #1.

But I've been against him since he was the chair of the judiciary in the Thomas hearings. And, due to his cowardly actions during that it resulted in Thomas going on the Supreme Court. I have never forgiven him for that and believed that if he had an ounce of integrity he would have forever taken himself out of public life.

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Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:51 pm
Every person is a mosaic of good and bad. Two things that I REALLY don't like about Biden, however:

1) He not only did not support Snowden, but actively tried to thwart his attempts at asylum.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... sylum.html

2) He's super creepy.
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Re: Joe Biden fans?

Post by technovelist » Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:34 pm

My question is "Are there any Joe Biden fans anywhere?".
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Post by vnatale » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:33 pm

He is STILL leading!

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6730.html

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Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:34 pm
My question is "Are there any Joe Biden fans anywhere?".
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