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Re: Signatures

Post by pugchief » Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:30 am

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I also liked XP, Windows 7 even more, and Windows 10 is the best. I currently use computers that, between them, run all three operating systems.

Vinny
So you're not concerned with alleged security issues of running out of service OS? Anyone else want to share an opinion? I replaced the computers at work with Win10 as they were running slow and near death anyway, but the one at home running Win7 works great and I would hate to replace it until I have to if the 'risk' is not great.
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Re: Signatures

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pugchief wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:30 am
vnatale wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:06 am

I also liked XP, Windows 7 even more, and Windows 10 is the best. I currently use computers that, between them, run all three operating systems.

Vinny
So you're not concerned with alleged security issues of running out of service OS? Anyone else want to share an opinion? I replaced the computers at work with Win10 as they were running slow and near death anyway, but the one at home running Win7 works great and I would hate to replace it until I have to if the 'risk' is not great.
Security Issues is why I stopped using Windows.
For Home use I use a Linux Distro on a pen drive. Unfortunately you can not run certain programs, but for the most part I just it for Internet/Email.
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Re: Signatures

Post by vnatale » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:31 am

pugchief wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:30 am
vnatale wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:06 am

I also liked XP, Windows 7 even more, and Windows 10 is the best. I currently use computers that, between them, run all three operating systems.

Vinny
So you're not concerned with alleged security issues of running out of service OS? Anyone else want to share an opinion? I replaced the computers at work with Win10 as they were running slow and near death anyway, but the one at home running Win7 works great and I would hate to replace it until I have to if the 'risk' is not great.
The XP one I rarely connect to the internet and mainly use to make endless backups on various external hard drives.

My office computer is the only Windows 7 computer I currently use. And, support for Windows 7 just ended in the last few weeks? That computer is going to soon be replaced by a Windows 10 computer but I will then replace the Windows XP computer with that Windows 7 computer as a secondary computer.

I find I can get more work done if I offload some of the work to a second computer. There are some things I do - like when dropbox is running, when copying files - that consume tons of computer resources, causing the computer to crawl. Therefore, I work on another computer while those tasks are working.

But to get back to your last question.....I don't have great fears of the risk. Plus, all my files (which are my most important computer related items) are backed up many, many, many times. Therefore, in the worst case, I'd reformat the hard drive, re-install all my programs, and get back to work -- since all my files are elsewhere --- generally in dropbox, on external hard drives, or, for the most important files, in both places.

Finally, you might be able to upgrade your Windows 7 computer to Windows 10 for free under the Windows Insider program. I did that with one or two computers.

Vinny

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Re: Signatures

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Re: Signatures

Post by technovelist » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:11 am

vnatale wrote:
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Well, you’ve given me something to ponder here. I’m no rush to go back to Windows (left after XP, which I liked), but I think I should stick with the very capable High Sierra OS for now. If it isn’t broken, don’t fix it.

Maybe I’ll just back up using iTunes as Mountaineer did and continue to enjoy Veracrypt.

Thanks, guys.
I also liked XP, Windows 7 even more, and Windows 10 is the best. I currently use computers that, between them, run all three operating systems.

Vinny
More than one per computer?
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Re: Signatures

Post by technovelist » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:11 am

pugchief wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:30 am
vnatale wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:06 am

I also liked XP, Windows 7 even more, and Windows 10 is the best. I currently use computers that, between them, run all three operating systems.

Vinny
So you're not concerned with alleged security issues of running out of service OS? Anyone else want to share an opinion? I replaced the computers at work with Win10 as they were running slow and near death anyway, but the one at home running Win7 works great and I would hate to replace it until I have to if the 'risk' is not great.
I would upgrade. I think the security risk is real.
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Re: Signatures

Post by InsuranceGuy » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:55 am

technovelist wrote:
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I would upgrade. I think the security risk is real.
I agree, plus the upgrade to Win10 is free.
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Post by vnatale » Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:09 pm

InsuranceGuy wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:55 am
technovelist wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:11 am
I would upgrade. I think the security risk is real.
I agree, plus the upgrade to Win10 is free.
I believe it was free for only the first year of its release. Now the only way I know of getting it for free is to go through the Windows Insider program.

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Re: Signatures

Post by vnatale » Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:13 pm

technovelist wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:11 am
vnatale wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:06 am
dualstow wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:42 pm
Well, you’ve given me something to ponder here. I’m no rush to go back to Windows (left after XP, which I liked), but I think I should stick with the very capable High Sierra OS for now. If it isn’t broken, don’t fix it.

Maybe I’ll just back up using iTunes as Mountaineer did and continue to enjoy Veracrypt.

Thanks, guys.
I also liked XP, Windows 7 even more, and Windows 10 is the best. I currently use computers that, between them, run all three operating systems.

Vinny
More than one per computer?
No

The way I first wrote it I saw that it could be interpreted that way. Then I went back and added the "between them" to hopefully make it clearer that I had at least one computer running one of the programs but not all three on any.

Back in the old days when Windows was regularly dying the first thing I'd do with a new computer would be to install Windows 95, 98, ME and install all my programs in each operating system so in case one of the operating systems died, I could just continue working by jumping to another operating system.

Vinny
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Re: Signatures

Post by Xan » Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:30 pm

technovelist wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:11 am
pugchief wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:30 am
vnatale wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:06 am

I also liked XP, Windows 7 even more, and Windows 10 is the best. I currently use computers that, between them, run all three operating systems.

Vinny
So you're not concerned with alleged security issues of running out of service OS? Anyone else want to share an opinion? I replaced the computers at work with Win10 as they were running slow and near death anyway, but the one at home running Win7 works great and I would hate to replace it until I have to if the 'risk' is not great.
I would upgrade. I think the security risk is real.
Agreed. But most likely, especially if you never run arbitrary applications written by who-knows-who, you're probably okay unless you're browsing the web. If so, the important thing is really your browser.

If you're using IE, then it's supported if your OS is supported. If your OS goes out of support, then it's possible that other browsers will continue to write for your OS for some time.

Personally, I never run an OS or browser that isn't supported. But then, upgrades are free for Linux.
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Re: Signatures

Post by technovelist » Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:46 pm

vnatale wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:09 pm
InsuranceGuy wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:55 am
technovelist wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:11 am
I would upgrade. I think the security risk is real.
I agree, plus the upgrade to Win10 is free.
I believe it was free for only the first year of its release. Now the only way I know of getting it for free is to go through the Windows Insider program.

Vinny
I think you can still upgrade without cost. See https://www.zdnet.com/article/heres-how ... 0-upgrade/ for information.
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Re: Signatures

Post by technovelist » Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:49 pm

vnatale wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:13 pm
technovelist wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:11 am
vnatale wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:06 am
dualstow wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:42 pm
Well, you’ve given me something to ponder here. I’m no rush to go back to Windows (left after XP, which I liked), but I think I should stick with the very capable High Sierra OS for now. If it isn’t broken, don’t fix it.

Maybe I’ll just back up using iTunes as Mountaineer did and continue to enjoy Veracrypt.

Thanks, guys.
I also liked XP, Windows 7 even more, and Windows 10 is the best. I currently use computers that, between them, run all three operating systems.

Vinny
More than one per computer?
No

The way I first wrote it I saw that it could be interpreted that way. Then I went back and added the "between them" to hopefully make it clearer that I had at least one computer running one of the programs but not all three on any.

Back in the old days when Windows was regularly dying the first thing I'd do with a new computer would be to install Windows 95, 98, ME and install all my programs in each operating system so in case one of the operating systems died, I could just continue working by jumping to another operating system.

Vinny
I should explain that I have multiple OSs on each of my computers.

1. My main computer, which is a mid-tower server running Windows 10, Ubuntu 19.10, and Windows Server 2019.
2. My laptop, which runs Windows 10, Ubuntu 19.10, and Windows Server 2016 (or maybe 2012, I don't recall).
3. My other tower machine, which runs Windows 10 and one of the Windows Servers (I think 2012).

I'm only running one OS at any given time on each machine, although I could set up a VM to run more than one at a time if I needed to do that for some reason.
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