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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by dualstow » Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:49 pm

Totally ready.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Libertarian666 » Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:17 pm

Smith1776 wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:37 pm
You guys ready for Round 2?? :D

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/feds-bu ... Ej6Q30UtrM

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Yep.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Mark Leavy » Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:03 pm

Smith1776 wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:37 pm
You guys ready for Round 2?? :D
It's crazy how ready this forum is. I don't think you could find a calmer group during this turmoil.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Hal » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:39 am

Libertarian666 wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:17 pm
Smith1776 wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:37 pm
You guys ready for Round 2?? :D

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/feds-bu ... Ej6Q30UtrM

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Yep.
I prefer this round 2 :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA1-1DlhuXU
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Smith1776 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:35 am

Hal wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:39 am

I prefer this round 2 :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA1-1DlhuXU
I watched this in college (the first time) and it's honestly how I really fell in love with economics. It suddenly wasn't just some dry topic, it became a FIGHT. ;D

In other economic news related to the crisis, there's a mini-documentary of sorts created by CNBC called America in Crisis: Economic Turning Point.

https://youtu.be/UE___HSRv3E

All kinds of different facets covered and quite interesting.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Hal » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:14 am

Smith1776 wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:35 am
I watched this in college (the first time) and it's honestly how I really fell in love with economics. It suddenly wasn't just some dry topic, it became a FIGHT. ;D

In other economic news related to the crisis, there's a mini-documentary of sorts created by CNBC called America in Crisis: Economic Turning Point.

https://youtu.be/UE___HSRv3E

All kinds of different facets covered and quite interesting.
Thanks Smith, will check it out.

Friend of mine who is right into history liked that clip so much he actually studied the Roman economic system and its eventual failure.
Here are some links to a group he belonged to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80jYxWD19S8
https://timeline.org.au/?page_id=3040

and yes.... he did make himself a Roman suit of armour

Edit: He recommended this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a95Y0na7Toc
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Kriegsspiel » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:02 am

Smith1776 wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:37 pm
You guys ready for Round 2?? :D
I walked in, the band just started
the crowd began yelling, "Keep a 6 foot bubble!"
Was on a mission to drink martinis but
all of the bars were quarantining

But after one round with Ole Corona
I caught myself throwing rocks through glass
And after two rounds with Ole Corona
To get through smoking rubble you needed a mask
You there, Ephialtes. May you live forever.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by pp4me » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:54 am

They said it was just a virus but it was much more than that.

It came to light the flames of mortal combat.

We thought the good times would go on forever.

But the goddamn virus was very clever.

Keep us all inside, shut us up tight.

Until there was nothing left for us to do but fight.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by WiseOne » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:09 am

Nice poetry guys!

Ready here too. It's amazing what those unpopular slices of gold and cash do for peace of mind.
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Post by Tortoise » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:55 am

More evidence that “many people with mild or asymptomatic Covid-19 demonstrate so-called T-cell-mediated immunity to the new coronavirus, even if they have not tested positively for antibodies”:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06- ... shown.html
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Kriegsspiel » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:38 pm

WiseOne wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:09 am
Nice poetry guys!
I can't even tell if you're fucking with me.
You there, Ephialtes. May you live forever.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Mark Leavy » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:12 pm

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:38 pm
WiseOne wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:09 am
Nice poetry guys!
I can't even tell if you're fucking with me.
I read it as a legitimate compliment.
Plus one.

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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by shekels » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:47 pm

Just got back from Florida, with parts of Fla and Tx requiring masks now.

This is why I seem to be getting hypoxia while wearing a mask.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QuHoMp2D8
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by pp4me » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:09 pm

The news is reporting a new record number of cases in Florida nearly every day now so I found this graph on COVID deaths in Florida during the month of June quite interesting.

Bet you don't see any headlines about how the number of deaths is decreasing. I suppose it could be that more deaths will be retroactively reported but based on this there is a significant decline. This would correspond with the news from other places that the virus is getting more contagious but weakening. Or maybe they just have better treatment for severe cases now.

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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by vnatale » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:57 pm

MangoMan wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:00 pm
shekels wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:47 pm
Just got back from Florida, with parts of Fla and Tx requiring masks now.

This is why I seem to be getting hypoxia while wearing a mask.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QuHoMp2D8
That was a great video. I play pickleball with a bunch of 65-80 year olds. Some of these idiots are wearing masks outside on a hot, humid day (today was 92 degrees and very humid). Please stay home if you are that paranoid. One of these oldsters is going to code in the middle of a game.
65-80 year olds!!!!!

I've told you we do have a pickleball court a short ways from one of our softball fields. But I don't think I've once seen anyone use it while we were playing a game, which I assume would also be prime time to play picketball? 6 PM to 8 PM.

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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Smith1776 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:41 pm

I still find the James Rickards portfolio fascinating.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by WiseOne » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:31 pm

Fascinating. I'm not sure how valid those O2 tests are under the mask, but it sure matches my experience. I get seriously out of breath when I'm walking uphill or fast while wearing a mask - and I'm just fine without the mask. I suspect that it's not so much the oxygen. The air you exhale has very close to the same oxygen content as the air you inhale (look it up, this has been studied - edited to add quote below). But, you're inhaling a lot more carbon dioxide than you would without the mask. And even small increases in blood CO2 can have a profound effect.

From wikipedia:
Inhaled air is by volume 78.08% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen and small amounts of other gasses including argon, carbon dioxide, neon, helium, and hydrogen.[15]

The gas exhaled is 4% to 5% by volume of carbon dioxide, about a 100 fold increase over the inhaled amount. The volume of oxygen is reduced by a small amount, 4% to 5%, compared to the oxygen inhaled.
Typically masks are worn by people who are very ill (e.g. patients in the midst of cancer treatments) or medical professionals on duty. Neither of these are doing anything more strenuous than standing or walking short distances while wearing the mask. The orders to wear a mask in public amount to an involuntary and unethical experiment, and I would not be surprised if some susceptible people suffer real injury (e.g. heart attacks) as a result.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by pp4me » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:16 pm

A good piece on face masks with some real facts and figures.....
From the author....

Before you tar and feather me, note that I am a physician. I do not play one on TV like Anthony Fauci or Deborah Birx. I spent thirty-six years wearing a surgical mask on a daily basis. And it always felt so good to take it off when I left the operating room. I didn’t realize why until recently.

(Also, for some reason it seems to affect my vision when I have the face mask on).
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Post by vnatale » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:16 pm

How Masks Went From Don’t-Wear to Must-Have

BY MEGAN MOLTENI AND ADAM ROGERS

Public health messaging and science have to work hard to stay in sync during a crisis. During the Covid-19 pandemic, they haven’t always succeeded.


https://www.wired.com/story/how-masks-w ... m=list1_p1
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by dualstow » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:24 pm

pp4me wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:16 pm
A good piece on face masks with some real facts and figures.....
From the author....

Before you tar and feather me, note that I am a physician. I do not play one on TV like Anthony Fauci or Deborah Birx. ]
...


What an assholish thing to say. I guess he wants to do the tarring and feathering.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by pp4me » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:47 pm

dualstow wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:24 pm
pp4me wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:16 pm
A good piece on face masks with some real facts and figures.....
From the author....

Before you tar and feather me, note that I am a physician. I do not play one on TV like Anthony Fauci or Deborah Birx. ]
...


What an assholish thing to say. I guess he wants to do the tarring and feathering.


An asshole is in the eye of the beholder.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Mountaineer » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:13 pm

pp4me wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:47 pm
dualstow wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:24 pm
pp4me wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:16 pm
A good piece on face masks with some real facts and figures.....
From the author....

Before you tar and feather me, note that I am a physician. I do not play one on TV like Anthony Fauci or Deborah Birx. ]
...


What an assholish thing to say. I guess he wants to do the tarring and feathering.


An asshole is in the eye of the beholder.


Or the behinder.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by dualstow » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:24 am

Steven Pinker on the Tribal Roots of Defying Social Distancing
But it’s more than a tribalism of being with your crowd. “There’s a moralistic component to this kind of tribalism, mainly that people tend to see their own tribes as victims of some kind of oppression or harm by some rival coalition,” Pinker says, his distinctive mass of gray hair filling the Zoom screen. “They believe their actions on behalf of the group, even if symbolic, are a kind of justice, a kind of settling the score, making a statement, advancing a moral cause—as strange as that may be to those of us who are not part of that coalition, and might even have contempt for that cause. But from the inside, it always feels as if your group has been victimized, has been a longstanding victim of a series of affronts and harms for which you seek redress. And that’s common in the invented histories and myths and narratives of many peoples.”
http://nautil.us/blog/steven-pinker-on- ... dab5982dd8

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Or the behinder.
😂 right!
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by bedraggled » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:03 pm

WiseOne,

I believe the New York City 'commuter tax' was reestablished 20 or so years ago. They may get you on that. Also, I think living 6+ months out of state would get you non-resident status: IT-203 time! Do consider the prospect of filing a state return in your new home state. Good laughs there as my family is familiar with the tax authorities of several states- and "Dad" gets to do those returns.

I have heard stories of people required to live in their primary residence co-op apartments but don't and experience no repercussions- they keep quiet, so I hear. I found it easier to abide by the co-op's desires. As Mark Twain said, "Always tell the truth. You will feel better and no one will believe you." I think the quote is exact.
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