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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Tortoise » Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:04 pm

dualstow wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:53 pm
Tortoise wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:39 pm
I think Vinny must be referring to this clip:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4864233/ ... mi-pick-em
ah thank you. They should just cut her mic like they do at the Rose Garden.
It wasn't even clear to me what her key message or request was. Seems like she just wanted more mic time for her dramatic performance.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by dualstow » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:15 pm

She's perma-crazed.
I won't attach any here because it's off-topic, but I do like all the photoshops floating around featuring Tlaib holding zionist reading material. O0
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by dualstow » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:46 pm

ATTN: Kriegsspiel:
Till Lindemann is in an ICU. He’s got coronavirus.
EDIT: That’s from several hours ago. As noted on the next page by Tortoise, it’s not true.
He was hospitalized, but tested negative for c.v.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by WiseOne » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:28 pm

Hey guys,

Checking in for the day. I thought you'd enjoy a line plot I put together showing new daily NYC COVID cases, thanks to numbers gleaned from various sources. Amazing how difficult it is to get this info online, but hooray for the Citizen app.

A lot of noise in the numbers, in part because they were not reported at the same time each day and also just because that's how these things go. I took the last report of each day, which was anything from 11 am to 8pm. However...looks to me like there was a very sharp increase between March 17-22, and then the numbers have been trending down since then. Of note, NYC implemented its own lockdown on March 16, and the state implemented a total lockdown on the 22nd. Interestingly, Trump's blocking of flights from Europe was March 11, and right after that was that jam session at airports.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Tortoise » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:31 pm

dualstow wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:46 pm
ATTN: Kriegsspiel:
Till Lindemann is in an ICU. He’s got coronavirus.
That's fake news.

https://www.revolvermag.com/music/ramms ... oronavirus
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by dualstow » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:36 pm

Wow, I didn’t know the Citizen app reported anything besides crime, but I see it now. Thank you, WiseOne.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by dualstow » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:37 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:31 pm
dualstow wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:46 pm
ATTN: Kriegsspiel:
Till Lindemann is in an ICU. He’s got coronavirus.
That's fake news.

https://www.revolvermag.com/music/ramms ... oronavirus
I’m glad to hear it.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Kriegsspiel » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:40 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:39 pm
I think Vinny must be referring to this clip:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4864233/ ... mi-pick-em
Jesus, that was worse than the British Parliament.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Kriegsspiel » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:45 pm

dualstow wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:37 pm
Tortoise wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:31 pm
dualstow wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:46 pm
ATTN: Kriegsspiel:
Till Lindemann is in an ICU. He’s got coronavirus.
That's fake news.

https://www.revolvermag.com/music/ramms ... oronavirus
I’m glad to hear it.
That is good to hear, but it's true that we're all going to die at some point.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by dualstow » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:54 pm

Say it isn’t so! 😱

Actually, that’s kind of a relief. The alternative is some kind of Black Mirror virtual hell.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

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Tortoise wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:39 pm
I think Vinny must be referring to this clip:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4864233/ ... mi-pick-em
You got it!

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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by vnatale » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:58 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:04 pm
dualstow wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:53 pm
Tortoise wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:39 pm
I think Vinny must be referring to this clip:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4864233/ ... mi-pick-em
ah thank you. They should just cut her mic like they do at the Rose Garden.
It wasn't even clear to me what her key message or request was. Seems like she just wanted more mic time for her dramatic performance.
As I was listening the second time around and each phrase and sentence, I kept saying to myself, you have limited time, you could have cut that out and you could have cut that out also. You are loudly proclaiming to me that you have no concept of time management. And, that. of course, triggers in me that she is probably also terrible at money management.

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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by vnatale » Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:00 pm

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:45 pm
dualstow wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:37 pm
Tortoise wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:31 pm
dualstow wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:46 pm
ATTN: Kriegsspiel:
Till Lindemann is in an ICU. He’s got coronavirus.
That's fake news.

https://www.revolvermag.com/music/ramms ... oronavirus
I’m glad to hear it.
That is good to hear, but it's true that we're all going to die at some point.
Seems like all know who this "Till Lindermann" is? A few minutes ago reading it in this forum is the first I've ever encountered the name.

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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Tortoise » Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:07 pm

vnatale wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:00 pm
Seems like all know who this "Till Lindermann" is? A few minutes ago reading it in this forum is the first I've ever encountered the name.
I didn't know the name. Had to look it up. But I'm definitely familiar with his band (Rammstein), so once I saw that he's their lead singer it immediately clicked.
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As I was listening the second time around and each phrase and sentence, I kept saying to myself, you have limited time, you could have cut that out and you could have cut that out also. You are loudly proclaiming to me that you have no concept of time management. And, that. of course, triggers in me that she is probably also terrible at money management.
Absolutely. If she can't even prioritize what she wants to say, how can she prioritize her state's needs, issues, and finances?

Fail.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by vnatale » Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:42 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:07 pm
vnatale wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:00 pm
Seems like all know who this "Till Lindermann" is? A few minutes ago reading it in this forum is the first I've ever encountered the name.
I didn't know the name. Had to look it up. But I'm definitely familiar with his band (Rammstein), so once I saw that he's their lead singer it immediately clicked.
vnatale wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:58 pm
As I was listening the second time around and each phrase and sentence, I kept saying to myself, you have limited time, you could have cut that out and you could have cut that out also. You are loudly proclaiming to me that you have no concept of time management. And, that. of course, triggers in me that she is probably also terrible at money management.
Absolutely. If she can't even prioritize what she wants to say, how can she prioritize her state's needs, issues, and finances?

Fail.
Never had prior seen that band's name either!

For all Bernie's followers I try to tell those supporters that being president is a real job, getting things done. It's not just running around giving speeches whenever one is moved to do so. I guess the Bernie crowd must have voted her in.

I watch C-Span a lot but generally DO NOT watch when the actual sessions of the House or the Senate. Way too boring and stilted.

I chose to watch today because if felt like I was watching history in the making.

The last time I really remember watching a session was all the debates / speeches in the runup to the Iraq War of 2003.

But I don't remember ever seeing a performance like hers today!

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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Kriegsspiel » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:48 pm

I was once again reminded of this quote from John Boehner
We’ve got some of the smartest people in America who serve in the Congress, and we’ve got some of the dumbest. We have some of the nicest people you’d ever want to meet, and some that are Nazis. Congress is nothing more than a slice of America.
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Post by vnatale » Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:15 pm

How many of you have read Tetlock's "Superforecasting"?

Here they are on the virus:

https://goodjudgment.io/covid/dashboard/

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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Kriegsspiel » Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:17 pm

vnatale wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:15 pm
How many of you have read Tetlock's "Superforecasting"?

Here they are on the virus:

https://goodjudgment.io/covid/dashboard/

Vinny
I read it a few years ago. IIRC they are usually pretty accurate.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by dualstow » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:34 am

Mystery In Wuhan: Recovered Coronavirus Patients Test Negative ... Then Positive
March 27, 20209:28 AM ET
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandso ... n-positive
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Post by Kriegsspiel » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:18 am

A peasant custom from a couple hundred years ago is the secret to defeating the Wuhan.
Economists and bureaucrats who ventured out into the countryside after the [French] Revolution were horrified to find that the work force disappeared between fall and spring. The fields were deserted from Flanders to Provence. Villages and even small towns were silent, with barely a column of smoke to reveal a human presence. As soon as the weather turned cold, people all over France shut themselves away and practiced the forgotten art of doing nothing at all for months on end.
In the mountains, the tradition of seasonal sloth was ancient and pervasive. “Seven months of winter, five months of hell,” they said in the Alps. When the “hell” of unremitting toil was over, the human beings settled in with their cows and pigs. They lowered their metabolic rate to prevent hunger from exhausting supplies. If someone died during the seven months of winter, the corpse was stored on the roof under a blanket of snow until spring thawed the ground, allowing a grave to be dug and a priest to reach the village.
Apartment building roofs may get a bit crowded, but this is good stuff. They will have to procure some farm animals.

Think it's only a solution in places that get cold?' YOU ARE SO WRONG
In Burgundy, after the wine harvest, the workers burned the vine stocks, repaired their tools and left the land to the wolves. A civil servant who investigated the region’s economic activity in 1844 found that he was almost the only living presence in the landscape: “These vigorous men will now spend their days in bed, packing their bodies tightly together in order to stay warm and to eat less food. They weaken themselves deliberately.”
government officials complained that farmers were “abandoning themselves to dumb idleness,” instead of undertaking “some peaceful and sedentary industry.” Income acted only as a deterrent. The people of Beaucaire on the Rhône made enough money at their summer fair to spend the rest of the year “smoking, playing cards, hunting and sleeping.”
Original EREsters.
no one is proposing a return to the five-month year. But perhaps there are lessons to be learned from those hibernating ancestors who shared their homes with heat-producing herbivores.

In September, at the General Assembly of the United Nations, President Sarkozy proposed “un New Deal écologique et économique,” but without explaining how economic growth can be reconciled with conservation. If he is serious about saving the planet, and if he wants to reassure the unions that workers will still have time with their families, he should consider introducing tax incentives for hibernation. The long-term benefits of reduced energy consumption would counterbalance the economic loss. There has never been a better time to stay in bed. link
This article was ahead of its time.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Mountaineer » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:34 am

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:18 am
A peasant custom from a couple hundred years ago is the secret to defeating the Wuhan.
Economists and bureaucrats who ventured out into the countryside after the [French] Revolution were horrified to find that the work force disappeared between fall and spring. The fields were deserted from Flanders to Provence. Villages and even small towns were silent, with barely a column of smoke to reveal a human presence. As soon as the weather turned cold, people all over France shut themselves away and practiced the forgotten art of doing nothing at all for months on end.
In the mountains, the tradition of seasonal sloth was ancient and pervasive. “Seven months of winter, five months of hell,” they said in the Alps. When the “hell” of unremitting toil was over, the human beings settled in with their cows and pigs. They lowered their metabolic rate to prevent hunger from exhausting supplies. If someone died during the seven months of winter, the corpse was stored on the roof under a blanket of snow until spring thawed the ground, allowing a grave to be dug and a priest to reach the village.
Apartment building roofs may get a bit crowded, but this is good stuff. They will have to procure some farm animals.

Think it's only a solution in places that get cold?' YOU ARE SO WRONG
In Burgundy, after the wine harvest, the workers burned the vine stocks, repaired their tools and left the land to the wolves. A civil servant who investigated the region’s economic activity in 1844 found that he was almost the only living presence in the landscape: “These vigorous men will now spend their days in bed, packing their bodies tightly together in order to stay warm and to eat less food. They weaken themselves deliberately.”
government officials complained that farmers were “abandoning themselves to dumb idleness,” instead of undertaking “some peaceful and sedentary industry.” Income acted only as a deterrent. The people of Beaucaire on the Rhône made enough money at their summer fair to spend the rest of the year “smoking, playing cards, hunting and sleeping.”
Original EREsters.
no one is proposing a return to the five-month year. But perhaps there are lessons to be learned from those hibernating ancestors who shared their homes with heat-producing herbivores.

In September, at the General Assembly of the United Nations, President Sarkozy proposed “un New Deal écologique et économique,” but without explaining how economic growth can be reconciled with conservation. If he is serious about saving the planet, and if he wants to reassure the unions that workers will still have time with their families, he should consider introducing tax incentives for hibernation. The long-term benefits of reduced energy consumption would counterbalance the economic loss. There has never been a better time to stay in bed. link
This article was ahead of its time.

Kriegs, Is this fact or fake news, truth or just a spiel? ;)
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Kriegsspiel » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:01 am

The guy is a French literature critic; I think we can safely take him at his word and not question anything he says.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Mountaineer » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:52 am

MangoMan wrote:
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That sounds like a commentary more on confiscatory tax rates than a hibernation cycle of sloth. Of course, in those days, you had no Netflix to pass the time so there wasn't much else to do but lay in bed.
And wait 9 months for the harvest. ;)
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

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Kriegsspiel wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:01 am
The guy is a French literature critic; I think we can safely take him at his word and not question anything he says.
I was waiting for you to comment on the first and last words of my reply. Are you into the sauce already? Or focusing on spacist astroholes? ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by dualstow » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:34 am

MangoMan wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:08 am
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Of course, in those days, you had no Netflix to pass the time so there wasn't much else to do but lay in bed.
Netfleas.
Not as much fun.
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