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Re: Forum Members with COVID-19

Post by Kbg » Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:08 am

10 from not eating during Covid, 5 more since. Being as sick as I was was a health wake up call. I’ve got the typical 50s man gut, otherwise no other health issues. Mainly just doing calorie/portion control.
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Post by Don » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:10 pm

This from Dr Zelenko's website. He's an anti-vaxxer but still sees the great danger from Covid. According to him, anyone contracting Covid over the age of 45 has a 5-10% mortality rate!

"High Risk Patients: Patients are considered high risk if they are over the age of 45, or if they are younger than 45 but they have comorbidities, that is, they have other health conditions that put them at risk. These patients have between a 5 to 10% mortality rate if they are infected with Covid-19."

https://covid19.onedaymd.com/2021/03/qu ... t.html?m=1
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Post by Xan » Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:44 pm

Don wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:10 pm
This from Dr Zelenko's website. He's an anti-vaxxer but still sees the great danger from Covid. According to him, anyone contracting Covid over the age of 45 has a 5-10% mortality rate!

"High Risk Patients: Patients are considered high risk if they are over the age of 45, or if they are younger than 45 but they have comorbidities, that is, they have other health conditions that put them at risk. These patients have between a 5 to 10% mortality rate if they are infected with Covid-19."

https://covid19.onedaymd.com/2021/03/qu ... t.html?m=1
Aren't the official numbers something like 10-15% mortality even for 80+ year olds? Does he think that number is massively underestimated? Based on what?
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Post by Mark Leavy » Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:01 pm

Xan wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:44 pm
Don wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:10 pm
This from Dr Zelenko's website. He's an anti-vaxxer but still sees the great danger from Covid. According to him, anyone contracting Covid over the age of 45 has a 5-10% mortality rate!

"High Risk Patients: Patients are considered high risk if they are over the age of 45, or if they are younger than 45 but they have comorbidities, that is, they have other health conditions that put them at risk. These patients have between a 5 to 10% mortality rate if they are infected with Covid-19."

https://covid19.onedaymd.com/2021/03/qu ... t.html?m=1
Aren't the official numbers something like 10-15% mortality even for 80+ year olds? Does he think that number is massively underestimated? Based on what?
Age is a proxy for bad health. The numbers would be more useful if the % mortality were referenced to BMI or VO2max.
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Post by SomeDude » Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:20 am

Mark Leavy wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:01 pm
Xan wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:44 pm
Don wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:10 pm
This from Dr Zelenko's website. He's an anti-vaxxer but still sees the great danger from Covid. According to him, anyone contracting Covid over the age of 45 has a 5-10% mortality rate!

"High Risk Patients: Patients are considered high risk if they are over the age of 45, or if they are younger than 45 but they have comorbidities, that is, they have other health conditions that put them at risk. These patients have between a 5 to 10% mortality rate if they are infected with Covid-19."

https://covid19.onedaymd.com/2021/03/qu ... t.html?m=1
Aren't the official numbers something like 10-15% mortality even for 80+ year olds? Does he think that number is massively underestimated? Based on what?
Age is a proxy for bad health. The numbers would be more useful if the % mortality were referenced to BMI or VO2max.
Isn't the mortality rate for an 85 year old already 10% without covid?
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Post by Xan » Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:30 am

SomeDude wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:20 am
Mark Leavy wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:01 pm
Xan wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:44 pm
Don wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:10 pm
This from Dr Zelenko's website. He's an anti-vaxxer but still sees the great danger from Covid. According to him, anyone contracting Covid over the age of 45 has a 5-10% mortality rate!

"High Risk Patients: Patients are considered high risk if they are over the age of 45, or if they are younger than 45 but they have comorbidities, that is, they have other health conditions that put them at risk. These patients have between a 5 to 10% mortality rate if they are infected with Covid-19."

https://covid19.onedaymd.com/2021/03/qu ... t.html?m=1
Aren't the official numbers something like 10-15% mortality even for 80+ year olds? Does he think that number is massively underestimated? Based on what?
Age is a proxy for bad health. The numbers would be more useful if the % mortality were referenced to BMI or VO2max.
Isn't the mortality rate for an 85 year old already 10% without covid?
10% of 85 year olds die each month? I'm going with "month" as how long it takes for Covid to run its course one way or the other. Maybe it's different.
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Post by sophie » Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:52 am

The real question should be how many months/years of life lost there are due to COVID. It doesn't help to point the finger at COVID when the main result is to change what's written on the death certificate, but not the date.

I saw one study early in the pandemic that looked into that very question. Turns out that COVID resulted in an average of 6 months life lost for victims, based on life expectancy numbers.

The population wide estimates are on the order of 2 years, but that includes collateral damage from the lockdowns. This would be quite high if anyone cared to examine that data, since most of the affected people in that instance were younger, with correspondingly greater life expectancy. I just read for example that children are 6 times more likely to die from suicide than from COVID. And, suicide is one of the problems that has greatly increased since the lockdowns started. Also there are conditions such as cancer, heart attacks and strokes for which treatments were delayed or non-existent. Ivor Cummins devoted a video to this question, and determined that nearly all the life lost in the UK was from lockdowns, not COVID. (Sadly I can't point you to that video because all his COVID-related videos were removed by Youtube).
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