Coronavirus Conspiracy Theories

[Tyler]

Here's the pet project Bill Gates is referring to:

https://biohackinfo.com/news-bill-gates ... tificates/

Passports are one thing, but implantables start to get really sketchy to me.

[shekels]

Bill Gates on How to Kill over 10 million excess people. Yes that is excess people.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AEMKudv5p0

So, We will Limit Your Travels and know where you go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A50TGg0 ... e=youtu.be

by the way Bill Gates funded the PIRBRIGHT institute, which owns the patent on coronavirus

Let me make the simplistic, non-conspiracy answer:

Excess: poor choice of words while speaking. He probably meant to say "or more"

The second video: most/my kids can't go to school without showing they've been vaccinated for measles, mumps, etc. Why would there be a big to-do if similar requirements are needed for Covid-19 vaccination? Already exists: https://www.who.int/ith/2016-ith-county-list.pdf

And the Pirbright comment: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN20W2FB

Excess:Poor choice of words sure..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llAG5V7x17A Peak population

So being Devils advocate. You do not have a choice but to vaccinate your children?
So are you telling me your going to be 1st in line for the New vaccine when it comes out?
https://youtu.be/8elE7Ct1jWw

[shekels]

So, We will Limit Your Travels and know where you go.

They already do this, it's called a passport*. And I don't think it's a bad idea to incorporate the requirement that you are not contagious into international travel.

*And for that matter, Real ID which will limit/track your ability to travel even domestically.

International travel I can agree with. They have a right to allow or not, anyone they wish into their country.
But to travel in a State or County or city without papers I have a problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzhIPvEanMg

[Cortopassi]

Excess:Poor choice of words sure..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llAG5V7x17A Peak population

So being Devils advocate. You do not have a choice but to vaccinate your children?
So are you telling me your going to be 1st in line for the New vaccine when it comes out?
https://youtu.be/8elE7Ct1jWw

1) He was talking about peak population in terms of health, proposing that improving health in poor countries actually reduces the number of kids people have which in turn will limit some supposed peak world population in the future. What are you otherwise trying to infer? That Gates has a population goal in mind and releases viruses as needed to control it?

2) All vaccines and drugs have some level of side effects. I vaccinated my children because the side effect of some of the diseases is death. If anything, you hear Fauci being very adamant about needing trials for safety before a vaccine is released to the public. Hell, in that video you saw them with that automatic injection tool, and they didn't even clean it between people! Things are better, I like to hope.

[dualstow]

Here's the pet project Bill Gates is referring to:
https://biohackinfo.com/news-bill-gates ... tificates/
Passports are one thing, but implantables start to get really sketchy to me.

This keeps popping up, but I think it is fake news, Tyler. I can’t find him talking about it in the AMA (although others do). I haven’t checked his blog yet, but as worthless as everyone says the mainstream media is, one would think they’d report something as controversial as implants. Like, headlines everywhere.

See here - https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN21I3EC

I know you posted this in Conspiracy Theories, but it is not a project that “Bill Gates is referring to.” Is it?

[Tyler]

Here's the pet project Bill Gates is referring to:
https://biohackinfo.com/news-bill-gates ... tificates/
Passports are one thing, but implantables start to get really sketchy to me.

This keeps popping up, but I think it is fake news, Tyler. I can’t find him talking about it in the AMA (although others do). I haven’t checked his blog yet, but as worthless as everyone says the mainstream media is, one would think they’d report something as controversial as implants. Like, headlines everywhere.

See here - https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN21I3EC

I know you posted this in Conspiracy Theories, but it is not a project that “Bill Gates is referring to.” Is it?

Thanks for posting that. It's always good to hear both sides. I personally think the Reuters rebuttal is missing the larger point.

Yeah, Gates never specifically mentions implantables in context with the current COVID-19 outbreak, and people are connecting the dots on their own to other projects he has funded. So it may be jumping to conclusions, but IMO to dismiss it as a conspiracy theory ignores the documented reality.

Here's an explanation of the quantum dot research for vaccine tracking funded by the Gates foundation. "Implantable" vs. "tattoo" is arguably a difference without a distinction. The idea with both is to physically mark digital records onto your body in a way that is easily trackable by outside technology.

[shekels]

Excess:Poor choice of words sure..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llAG5V7x17A Peak population

So being Devils advocate. You do not have a choice but to vaccinate your children?
So are you telling me your going to be 1st in line for the New vaccine when it comes out?
https://youtu.be/8elE7Ct1jWw

1) He was talking about peak population in terms of health, proposing that improving health in poor countries actually reduces the number of kids people have which in turn will limit some supposed peak world population in the future. What are you otherwise trying to infer? That Gates has a population goal in mind and releases viruses as needed to control it?

2) All vaccines and drugs have some level of side effects. I vaccinated my children because the side effect of some of the diseases is death. If anything, you hear Fauci being very adamant about needing trials for safety before a vaccine is released to the public. Hell, in that video you saw them with that automatic injection tool, and they didn't even clean it between people! Things are better, I like to hope.

So you agree that he is talking about reducing population, or as some would say population control.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GNZAWd ... e=youtu.be
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[Tyler]

OK -- this one is straight conspiracy theory.

Idiots ‘BURNING 5G masts’ after conspiracy that ‘radiation sparked coronavirus’ is spread by celebs

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11320198/ ... ory-masts/

[Tortoise]

OK -- this one is straight conspiracy theory.

Idiots ‘BURNING 5G masts’ after conspiracy that ‘radiation sparked coronavirus’ is spread by celebs

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11320198/ ... ory-masts/

So in the year 2020, 5G base stations are the new "witches" being burned at the stake. Fascinating.

[Libertarian666]

If it's any consolation, ramming the Mercy ship with the train would have been bad for the people on board, but would have made zero impact on the coronavirus healthcare situation. Those ships are monumentally useless. They refuse to take COVID cases and instituted a very cumbersome procedure for taking transfers, including a list of 49 conditions apart from COVID that they also refuse to take. Who the heck has time for that?? My hospital reported only being able to send 1 or 2 patients to the Comfort, out of almost 2000 inpatients. They ended up deciding that the benefit wasn't worth the effort.

Make a conspiracy theory out of that if you can? I don't think I'd chalk this up to anything other than gross incompetence, ignorance etc on the part of the Navy. They were apparently just as useless on recent dispatches, e.g. to Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria.

@WiseOne Can you find a way to tell Tucker Carlson about that? If so, and if he puts it on his show (which he might very well do), those regulations will be thrown out tomorrow.

[Maddy]

Done.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/0 ... -patients/

[shekels]

OK -- this one is straight conspiracy theory.

Idiots ‘BURNING 5G masts’ after conspiracy that ‘radiation sparked coronavirus’ is spread by celebs

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11320198/ ... ory-masts/

Yes. The Giant Radiation Killer 5g.
They are also placing 5g on top of schools. "Think of the children"
Cell Towers here are posted with warning sign because of radiation.

Actually it's the phones themselves that could Kill you.

[Mountaineer]

OK -- this one is straight conspiracy theory.

Idiots ‘BURNING 5G masts’ after conspiracy that ‘radiation sparked coronavirus’ is spread by celebs

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11320198/ ... ory-masts/

Yes. The Giant Radiation Killer 5g.
They are also placing 5g on top of schools. "Think of the children"
Cell Towers here are posted with warning sign because of radiation.

Actually it's the phones themselves that could Kill you.

Just like guns that kill people, not the psycho who pulls the trigger.

[Maddy]

Gateway has dug up a video clip from a Georgetown University pandemic preparation forum in 2007 in which Dr. Fauci predicted that Trump would be challenged not only by ongoing world health threats such as HIV and influenza, but with a surprise global disease outbreak.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/0 ... eak-video/

[blackomen]

Suspicious activity at the Wuhan disease lab when the virus broke out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQFCcS ... e=youtu.be

[Hal]

OK -- this one is straight conspiracy theory.

Idiots ‘BURNING 5G masts’ after conspiracy that ‘radiation sparked coronavirus’ is spread by celebs

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11320198/ ... ory-masts/

Like this character
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BIZoRIUqs0

[Maddy]

2017. Sorry.

[Libertarian666]

2017. Sorry.

[vnatale]

Last summer I read this book:

Influenza: The Hundred-Year Hunt to Cure the 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic

https://smile.amazon.com/Influenza-The- ... l_huc_item

Its author is on C-Span right now and taking calls from viewers.

A called asked the question as to whether this virus was purposely caused.

I will henceforth always use his reply to just about every conspiracy theory I hear or reading regarding anything.

"Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence!"

Vinny

[Smith1776]

https://smile.amazon.com/Influenza-The- ... l_huc_item

This looks like a perfect book to read for quarantine.

Reading school textbooks just doesn't pass muster for rest and relaxation.

[vnatale]

https://smile.amazon.com/Influenza-The- ... l_huc_item

This looks like a perfect book to read for quarantine.

Reading school textbooks just doesn't pass muster for rest and relaxation.

I think I read it at one sitting while at an all-day music event on a Saturday last August. Kept picking it up whenever what was going on on stage was not drawing my eyes.

Vinny

[WiseOne]

I was reading some info about the coronavirus, to catch up on the latest. My sister (the ER doc) is reading too, and she says she thinks the virus was somehow engineered (and she's otherwise strongly inclined to be politically liberal). It's too perfect. The affinity for ACE receptors is unprecedented, and the key proteins on the coat are unusually good at invading human cells. It's also disturbing how many young people are showing up with severe cases. She told me about a family with COVID, where the parents are doing ok but the previously-healthy 17 year old son is on a vent and she thinks he won't survive. She said he went from a normal chest xray to severe, widespread ARDS in just 12 hours. Like those cases in the Washington nursing home.

So the key question of late has been: if you're on an ACE inhibitor should you stop it? Some of the risk factors for high mortality - hypertension, diabetes - are people likely to be on these drugs. The answer is "dunno" right now, but if any of you guys are on an ACE inhibitor and can switch to an alternative, you might consider it.

[Smith1776]

I was reading some info about the coronavirus, to catch up on the latest. My sister (the ER doc) is reading too, and she says she thinks the virus was somehow engineered (and she's otherwise strongly inclined to be politically liberal). It's too perfect. The affinity for ACE receptors is unprecedented, and the key proteins on the coat are unusually good at invading human cells. It's also disturbing how many young people are showing up with severe cases. She told me about a family with COVID, where the parents are doing ok but the previously-healthy 17 year old son is on a vent and she thinks he won't survive. She said he went from a normal chest xray to severe, widespread ARDS in just 12 hours. Like those cases in the Washington nursing home.

So the key question of late has been: if you're on an ACE inhibitor should you stop it? Some of the risk factors for high mortality - hypertension, diabetes - are people likely to be on these drugs. The answer is "dunno" right now, but if any of you guys are on an ACE inhibitor and can switch to an alternative, you might consider it.

WiseOne, I heard from Michael Osterholm on the Joe Rogan podcast that COVID-19 looked to him to be of natural origin. That interview was posted several weeks ago.

Has something changed in terms of our understanding of the virus in the interim that would give us the impression it is engineered? Or is Osterholm simply off base with a different interpretation of the evidence?

[WiseOne]

There is no hard evidence, it's just observation/speculation at this point. Osterholm was speculating too.

My sister's belief is based on her direct clinical experience with this virus. She's never seen anything like it. She describes it as too new, and too perfect. So suspicion only, but I'm now thinking there is a real possibility. Probably not directly genetically engineered, but a natural process like cross-breeding could have taken place.

[dualstow]

My sister (the ER doc) is reading too, and she says she thinks the virus was somehow engineered (and she's otherwise strongly inclined to be politically liberal). It's too perfect. The affinity for ACE receptors is unprecedented, and the key proteins on the coat are unusually good at invading human cells. It's also disturbing how many young people are showing up with severe cases.

It sounds a little like the way creationists say a tree or a tiger or an eye is too perfect, therefore it could not have been created by the blind forces of nature. Why can’t it just be unprecedented in its ability to attack and at the same time natural?