Just like guns that kill people, not the psycho who pulls the trigger.shekels wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:55 pmYes. The Giant Radiation Killer 5g.Tyler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:23 pmOK -- this one is straight conspiracy theory.
Idiots ‘BURNING 5G masts’ after conspiracy that ‘radiation sparked coronavirus’ is spread by celebs
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11320198/ ... ory-masts/
They are also placing 5g on top of schools. "Think of the children"
Cell Towers here are posted with warning sign because of radiation.
Actually it's the phones themselves that could Kill you.
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DNA has its own language (code), and language requires intelligence. There is no known mechanism by which matter can give birth to information, let alone language. It is unreasonable to believe the world could have happened by chance.
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Gateway has dug up a video clip from a Georgetown University pandemic preparation forum in 2007 in which Dr. Fauci predicted that Trump would be challenged not only by ongoing world health threats such as HIV and influenza, but with a surprise global disease outbreak.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/0 ... eak-video/
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Suspicious activity at the Wuhan disease lab when the virus broke out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQFCcS ... e=youtu.be
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Like this characterTyler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:23 pmOK -- this one is straight conspiracy theory.
Idiots ‘BURNING 5G masts’ after conspiracy that ‘radiation sparked coronavirus’ is spread by celebs
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11320198/ ... ory-masts/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BIZoRIUqs0
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2017. Sorry.
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Last summer I read this book:
Influenza: The Hundred-Year Hunt to Cure the 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic
https://smile.amazon.com/Influenza-The- ... l_huc_item
Its author is on C-Span right now and taking calls from viewers.
A called asked the question as to whether this virus was purposely caused.
I will henceforth always use his reply to just about every conspiracy theory I hear or reading regarding anything.
"Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence!"
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Influenza: The Hundred-Year Hunt to Cure the 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic
https://smile.amazon.com/Influenza-The- ... l_huc_item
Its author is on C-Span right now and taking calls from viewers.
A called asked the question as to whether this virus was purposely caused.
I will henceforth always use his reply to just about every conspiracy theory I hear or reading regarding anything.
"Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence!"
Vinny
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This looks like a perfect book to read for quarantine.
Reading school textbooks just doesn't pass muster for rest and relaxation.
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I think I read it at one sitting while at an all-day music event on a Saturday last August. Kept picking it up whenever what was going on on stage was not drawing my eyes.
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I was reading some info about the coronavirus, to catch up on the latest. My sister (the ER doc) is reading too, and she says she thinks the virus was somehow engineered (and she's otherwise strongly inclined to be politically liberal). It's too perfect. The affinity for ACE receptors is unprecedented, and the key proteins on the coat are unusually good at invading human cells. It's also disturbing how many young people are showing up with severe cases. She told me about a family with COVID, where the parents are doing ok but the previously-healthy 17 year old son is on a vent and she thinks he won't survive. She said he went from a normal chest xray to severe, widespread ARDS in just 12 hours. Like those cases in the Washington nursing home.
So the key question of late has been: if you're on an ACE inhibitor should you stop it? Some of the risk factors for high mortality - hypertension, diabetes - are people likely to be on these drugs. The answer is "dunno" right now, but if any of you guys are on an ACE inhibitor and can switch to an alternative, you might consider it.
So the key question of late has been: if you're on an ACE inhibitor should you stop it? Some of the risk factors for high mortality - hypertension, diabetes - are people likely to be on these drugs. The answer is "dunno" right now, but if any of you guys are on an ACE inhibitor and can switch to an alternative, you might consider it.
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WiseOne, I heard from Michael Osterholm on the Joe Rogan podcast that COVID-19 looked to him to be of natural origin. That interview was posted several weeks ago.WiseOne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:45 amI was reading some info about the coronavirus, to catch up on the latest. My sister (the ER doc) is reading too, and she says she thinks the virus was somehow engineered (and she's otherwise strongly inclined to be politically liberal). It's too perfect. The affinity for ACE receptors is unprecedented, and the key proteins on the coat are unusually good at invading human cells. It's also disturbing how many young people are showing up with severe cases. She told me about a family with COVID, where the parents are doing ok but the previously-healthy 17 year old son is on a vent and she thinks he won't survive. She said he went from a normal chest xray to severe, widespread ARDS in just 12 hours. Like those cases in the Washington nursing home.
So the key question of late has been: if you're on an ACE inhibitor should you stop it? Some of the risk factors for high mortality - hypertension, diabetes - are people likely to be on these drugs. The answer is "dunno" right now, but if any of you guys are on an ACE inhibitor and can switch to an alternative, you might consider it.
Has something changed in terms of our understanding of the virus in the interim that would give us the impression it is engineered? Or is Osterholm simply off base with a different interpretation of the evidence?
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There is no hard evidence, it's just observation/speculation at this point. Osterholm was speculating too.
My sister's belief is based on her direct clinical experience with this virus. She's never seen anything like it. She describes it as too new, and too perfect. So suspicion only, but I'm now thinking there is a real possibility. Probably not directly genetically engineered, but a natural process like cross-breeding could have taken place.
My sister's belief is based on her direct clinical experience with this virus. She's never seen anything like it. She describes it as too new, and too perfect. So suspicion only, but I'm now thinking there is a real possibility. Probably not directly genetically engineered, but a natural process like cross-breeding could have taken place.
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It sounds a little like the way creationists say a tree or a tiger or an eye is too perfect, therefore it could not have been created by the blind forces of nature. Why can’t it just be unprecedented in its ability to attack and at the same time natural?WiseOne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:45 amMy sister (the ER doc) is reading too, and she says she thinks the virus was somehow engineered (and she's otherwise strongly inclined to be politically liberal). It's too perfect. The affinity for ACE receptors is unprecedented, and the key proteins on the coat are unusually good at invading human cells. It's also disturbing how many young people are showing up with severe cases.
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Very interesting. I ask purely out of place of curiosity and wanting to learn more. I'm totally ignorant when it comes to epidemiology and even biology generally. This is almost intentional, as I am very squeamish and actively avoid topics like biology.WiseOne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:12 amThere is no hard evidence, it's just observation/speculation at this point. Osterholm was speculating too.
My sister's belief is based on her direct clinical experience with this virus. She's never seen anything like it. She describes it as too new, and too perfect. So suspicion only, but I'm now thinking there is a real possibility. Probably not directly genetically engineered, but a natural process like cross-breeding could have taken place.
Based on how this situation has evolved over these weeks, it's amazing to me how ignorant as group we all tended to be to these risks. Bill Gates tried to warn us years ago, and nobody seemed to really take action.
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https://medshadow.org/do-ace-inhibitors ... ronavirus/
Re ACE blood pressure medicine: the linked info is a couple weeks old now. Is the consensus leaning now towards harm rather than protect?
Re ACE blood pressure medicine: the linked info is a couple weeks old now. Is the consensus leaning now towards harm rather than protect?
DNA has its own language (code), and language requires intelligence. There is no known mechanism by which matter can give birth to information, let alone language. It is unreasonable to believe the world could have happened by chance.
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What if Scientist's just test a myriad of virus's and found a bat virus that was lethal.WiseOne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:12 amThere is no hard evidence, it's just observation/speculation at this point. Osterholm was speculating too.
My sister's belief is based on her direct clinical experience with this virus. She's never seen anything like it. She describes it as too new, and too perfect. So suspicion only, but I'm now thinking there is a real possibility. Probably not directly genetically engineered, but a natural process like cross-breeding could have taken place.
Technically not engineered right, but still lethal and natural to bats.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... ses-near-/
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And too perfect in relation not only to the failed succession of attempts to unseat the president, but to the upcoming election. Run the probabilities on that!
Oh, and in today's news it's being reported that a number of economies in Africa are on the verge of "complete collapse." https://apnews.com/c79a173993d39ffe5773449ebaf9b9f8 How convenient for both the U.S. and China, whose game plan on that continent had exactly that goal.
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We'll see. And what if we're "strongly encouraged" to vote by mail
"Since 1900, only one president has won re-election with a recession occurring sometime in the last two years of their first term: William McKinley.
Since then, the four presidents who ran for a second term during such an economic downturn—William Taft in 1912, Herber Hoover in 1932, Jimmy Carter in 1980 and George H.W. Bush in 1992—were unsuccessful."
https://www.newsweek.com/heres-all-pres ... ns-1493467
"Since 1900, only one president has won re-election with a recession occurring sometime in the last two years of their first term: William McKinley.
Since then, the four presidents who ran for a second term during such an economic downturn—William Taft in 1912, Herber Hoover in 1932, Jimmy Carter in 1980 and George H.W. Bush in 1992—were unsuccessful."
https://www.newsweek.com/heres-all-pres ... ns-1493467
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Make that 2 presidents.boglerdude wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:22 amWe'll see. And what if we're "strongly encouraged" to vote by mail
"Since 1900, only one president has won re-election with a recession occurring sometime in the last two years of their first term: William McKinley.
Since then, the four presidents who ran for a second term during such an economic downturn—William Taft in 1912, Herber Hoover in 1932, Jimmy Carter in 1980 and George H.W. Bush in 1992—were unsuccessful."
https://www.newsweek.com/heres-all-pres ... ns-1493467
Of course, that is if the criminals in Washington pass Vote by Mail then We are Toast.
Putin or Xi will be in charge from then on.
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Why Coronavirus Conspiracy Theories Flourish. And Why It Matters.
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There's a piece in the Week entitled France: The maverick behind the chloroquine craze
It begins,
and now the conspiracy:
It begins,
...Didier Raoult has suddenly “become France’s best-known, and most controversial, doctor,” said Peter Conradi in The Times (U.K.). A microbiologist with a talent for self-promotion, Raoult ignited a global run on the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine in March by announcing the coronavirus “endgame” in a YouTube video.
and now the conspiracy:
I hate people.But this being France, there’s “an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory” or two to explain the sidelining of Raoult, said Damien Leloup and Lucie Soullier in Le Monde. Some online cranks insist his breakthrough is being suppressed because chloroquine is a cheap, established drug, and so Jewish-owned Big Pharma can’t profit from it. Another theory holds that the conspirators are Jews within the French government, namely former Health Minister Agnès Buzyn and her husband, immunologist Yves Lévy. Their dastardly plot involves killing off the elderly to save on pensions. Gilbert Collard, a politician with the far-right National Rally, promoted this theory on YouTube and quickly clocked more than 250,000 views. When people are scared, they want quick answers, and they are “quick to blame” those who advocate caution.
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