Would you wear a mask?
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I hope folks who elect to wear a mask do not get a false sense of security
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Same in my county. But how effective are “mouth coverings” that can be made of almost any material?
It just doesn’t seem like a well thought out mandate. Just more Simon Says.
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Boil them in 60 grams of salt and 200ml of water. Hang to dry. Any type of cloth that can handle being boiled.
Edit: Or 1/3 cup of salt added to a cup of water.
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Aerosolized pathogens are a leading cause of respiratory infection and transmission. Currently used protective measures pose potential risk of primary/secondary infection and transmission. Here, we report the development of a universal, reusable virus deactivation system by functionalization of the main fibrous filtration unit of surgical mask with sodium chloride salt. The salt coating on the fiber surface dissolves upon exposure to virus aerosols and recrystallizes during drying, destroying the pathogens. When tested with tightly sealed sides, salt-coated filters showed remarkably higher filtration efficiency than conventional mask filtration layer, and 100% survival rate was observed in mice infected with virus penetrated through salt-coated filters. Viruses captured on salt-coated filters exhibited rapid infectivity loss compared to gradual decrease on bare filters. Salt-coated filters proved highly effective in deactivating influenza viruses regardless of subtypes and following storage in harsh environmental conditions. Our results can be applied in obtaining a broad-spectrum, airborne pathogen prevention device in preparation for epidemic and pandemic of respiratory diseases.
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Chicken wire should work well to screen out the bats.
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Very interesting. Thanks.Mark Leavy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:55 pmReference
AbstractAerosolized pathogens are a leading cause of respiratory infection and transmission. Currently used protective measures pose potential risk of primary/secondary infection and transmission. Here, we report the development of a universal, reusable virus deactivation system by functionalization of the main fibrous filtration unit of surgical mask with sodium chloride salt. The salt coating on the fiber surface dissolves upon exposure to virus aerosols and recrystallizes during drying, destroying the pathogens. When tested with tightly sealed sides, salt-coated filters showed remarkably higher filtration efficiency than conventional mask filtration layer, and 100% survival rate was observed in mice infected with virus penetrated through salt-coated filters. Viruses captured on salt-coated filters exhibited rapid infectivity loss compared to gradual decrease on bare filters. Salt-coated filters proved highly effective in deactivating influenza viruses regardless of subtypes and following storage in harsh environmental conditions. Our results can be applied in obtaining a broad-spectrum, airborne pathogen prevention device in preparation for epidemic and pandemic of respiratory diseases.
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The CDC link you provided doesn't answer my question about effectiveness. It does not provide a scientific explanation of why cloth mouth coverings supposedly "slow the spread of the virus."
From the CDC link (boldface added):
Not so voluntary anymore, are they?Cloth face coverings fashioned from household items or made at home from common materials at low cost can be used as an additional, voluntary public health measure.
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Okay, so apparently I was "fake newsed" by my brother. My own flesh and blood.
He lives in my county in California, and he was the one who told me this morning that everyone in our county is required to wear a mouth covering starting tomorrow. But he was wrong; it's only a recommendation. The only people here who are required to wear a mouth covering starting tomorrow are employees at stores and restaurants that might interact with customers.
See, Smithy? You're not the only one around here who got "fake newsed"!
<hangs head in shame>
He lives in my county in California, and he was the one who told me this morning that everyone in our county is required to wear a mouth covering starting tomorrow. But he was wrong; it's only a recommendation. The only people here who are required to wear a mouth covering starting tomorrow are employees at stores and restaurants that might interact with customers.
See, Smithy? You're not the only one around here who got "fake newsed"!
<hangs head in shame>
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Hahahahaha, if someone as keen as you can get caught up in all this, I don't feel that bad then.
The same thing happened to me, where I was caught because it was someone close to me who told me. We tend to think of our closeness with the source as a proxy for reliability, when we've learned it really isn't.
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Okay, I just did a trial run with a Merino wool neck gaiter. Pretty comfy. And you can just leave it down on your neck most of the time and pull it up when you need to.
Of course, you can't boil wool and Merino is only anti-bacterial, not anti-viral. But it's mostly theater anyway, and at least I won't scare the nice ladies at the checkout stand.
Of course, you can't boil wool and Merino is only anti-bacterial, not anti-viral. But it's mostly theater anyway, and at least I won't scare the nice ladies at the checkout stand.
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That’s a great idea, Mark. I have a black fleece neck gaiter in my closet.
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They probably don’t sell the cool ones here, though.Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:19 pmI got some compliments on the shemagh today. Recommended.
Actually, they have some pretty cool stuff on Etsy. I wouldn’t want to boil it in saltwater and ruin it, though.
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PA Governor: blah blah wear masks blehdualstow wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:42 pmhttps://6abc.com/health/pa-residents-to ... 0/6073113/
{ PA gov asks all Pennsylvanians to wear a mask }
PA Residents: OPEN THE LIQUOR STORES YOU MONSTER
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Well, I read that distilleries are selling booze curbside and some are even delivering, so I guess those that can afford the surcharge can still partake of the goodness of rotten grain.
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If masks become mandatory, I wonder how long I could get away with one of these before someone called me on it.
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Yes, they have priorities too!Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:40 amPA Governor: blah blah wear masks blehdualstow wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:42 pmhttps://6abc.com/health/pa-residents-to ... 0/6073113/
{ PA gov asks all Pennsylvanians to wear a mask }
PA Residents: OPEN THE LIQUOR STORES YOU MONSTER
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How to make your own face mask to help stop the spread of the coronavirus
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First actual "mask usage" at a grocery store today. I had my neck gaiter on from hiking around Zion this morning and I stopped in the grocery store. Small town Kanab in Southern Utah. So far, I hadn't seen very many masks at all, but today there were a few soccer mom types on with scarves and bandanas, so I pulled up my gaiter to blend in. I grabbed my eggs and butter and soda water and headed to the checkout counter.
Technology.
Apple Pay - contactless payment through my iPhone doesn't work. Face recognition. Oops. I had to pull my gaiter down while at the checkout. Fortunately - none of the checkers at the grocery store were wearing masks and the young gal helping me out knew me and thought it was as funny as I did.
Be safe out there folks. Carry cash. Filthy, dirty lucre.
Technology.
Apple Pay - contactless payment through my iPhone doesn't work. Face recognition. Oops. I had to pull my gaiter down while at the checkout. Fortunately - none of the checkers at the grocery store were wearing masks and the young gal helping me out knew me and thought it was as funny as I did.
Be safe out there folks. Carry cash. Filthy, dirty lucre.
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I’ve been using my credit card with built-in NFC chip. No face recognition needed!
Most new credit cards are doing that now.
Most new credit cards are doing that now.
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Some of the bodegas around me insist on taking the credit card and inserting it themselves, which is weird. One of them used to let customers do it. I wonder what went wrong. One even has a pen on a cord that everyone uses to sign a paper receipt - those outside the U.S. reading this must think it’s pretty funny. I have been bringing my own pen since before corona. I like pens.
So, while I’ll definitely be wearing a mask next time I get food, I’m going to have to get my hands dirty.
So, while I’ll definitely be wearing a mask next time I get food, I’m going to have to get my hands dirty.
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None of your credit cards have NFC (contactless) chips yet?
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I think at least two of my cards do. The problem is finding American machines that accept them.
At CVS drugstores, I used to be able to use an American Express card with near-field. Ever since chip-and-signature came along (we don’t have chip & PIN), the machines want us to either insert or swipe.
There‘re a few places out there. The bus finally lets us tap to pay, for instance. But my grocery stores don’t have it, even the one that, like CVS, has self-checkout machines.
At CVS drugstores, I used to be able to use an American Express card with near-field. Ever since chip-and-signature came along (we don’t have chip & PIN), the machines want us to either insert or swipe.
There‘re a few places out there. The bus finally lets us tap to pay, for instance. But my grocery stores don’t have it, even the one that, like CVS, has self-checkout machines.
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This might be the simplest no-sew DIY coronavirus mask
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