WiseOne wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:13 pm
I doubt gas ranges are any more efficient than old ones, but for sure refrigerators are - good point.
Yea, something like a gas range I think going for as simple and durable as possible is the smartest thing. I don't understand the $15,000 Viking thing or whatever the fancy ones are. I like how some Japanese just have a simple canister-powered gas burner on their countertop.
Energy efficient dishwashers, though, are nothing more than a sleight of hand. I purposely avoided energy star when I got mine. Energy star means having to use rinse aid and high water temps because otherwise the dishes don't get clean or dry. Well, rinse aid costs and takes energy to produce, bottle, transport etc. And you have the bottle to dispose of afterwards. I got a cheap GE with heated dry. Works great.
Mine isn't energy-star either. I started using it more after reading that a fully loaded dishwasher uses less total resources than washing them by hand, which makes sense. At my first apartment I just used the dishwasher as a drying rack, but then again I think I only owned 3 plates/cups/etc back then. Now that I have enough dishes to fill it I usually don't bother washing them by hand in the sink.
Mark Leavy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:13 pm
I’m still intrigued by Maddie’s suggestion to convert a chest freezer into a fridge. That sounds like it would work really well.
I saw this idea when I was reading about people converting vans into pseudo-RVs. If you get the right one, you wouldn't need to modify it to use it as a fridge. I think this
Sun Danzer is very neat.
You there, Ephialtes. May you live forever.