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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by jalanlong » Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:54 pm

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Those are simply astounding numbers to me! I never thought I was in such a minority. When I next go food shopping (have not yet done so once in 2021!) I'm going to count the adults I see to determine how many fall into which category - overweight / not overweight.
The percentage of overweight people can vary quite a bit by geographical location and neighborhood.

In Newport Beach, CA, you'll hardly see any overweight people.

In Houston, TX, you'll see them everywhere.
I would agree with that. When my wife and I visit relatives in the LA area we always feel like the largest people there but in North Texas we are not anywhere close to the top percentile in weight.
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by pugchief » Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:02 pm

Tortoise wrote:
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The percentage of overweight people can vary quite a bit by geographical location and neighborhood.

In Newport Beach, CA, you'll hardly see any overweight people.

In Houston, TX, you'll see them everywhere.
Maybe there just isn't any good barbecue in Newport Beach. O0
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by vnatale » Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:24 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:17 pm

vnatale wrote:
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Those are simply astounding numbers to me! I never thought I was in such a minority. When I next go food shopping (have not yet done so once in 2021!) I'm going to count the adults I see to determine how many fall into which category - overweight / not overweight.


The percentage of overweight people can vary quite a bit by geographical location and neighborhood.

In Newport Beach, CA, you'll hardly see any overweight people.

In Houston, TX, you'll see them everywhere.


I've said this here before but it bears repeating....

Way back over 20 years ago...I was with someone from the country of Columbia who was our company's representative to that country.

While we were walking around at a food event I asked him if he had any impressions of what the typical American looked like. He said:

1) Blond hair and blue eyes (surprise to me since I'd grown up amongst so many brown eyed / dark brown hair fellow Italians such as me).

2) How obese Americans are. He said you just did not see that in Columbia. As I stated he said that over 20 years ago. Now it'd be an even more outstanding characteristic for him to observe.
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by SomeDude » Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:04 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:48 pm
Kbg wrote:
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Let's just say your view of the First Amendment is "expansive." Maybe you should read up on what the freedom of assembly protects before you post stuff about it. It's pretty clear you are clueless.
Now now, Kbg, there's no need to let your emotions get the better of you and resort to ad hominem attacks. We're all adults here.
I have to disagree with you on that point T man.
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by vnatale » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:58 am

Not going to get into Yankee Stadium unless you comply...

Vinny


https://www.nj.com/yankees/2021/03/yank ... -info.html


Yankee Stadium fan protocols: Testing or vaccination proof is a must; Parking, concessions, social distancing info
By Randy Miller | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
Updated Mar 30, 2021; Posted Mar 30, 2021
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by murphy_p_t » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:18 am

mathjak107 wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:09 am
Here is just one of so many .
That supposed Israeli study has been busted over and over ..anyone with a brain can see that claim is clearly false propaganda

You are running on fumes here Murphy

“Furthermore, The Defender is Children’s Health Defense’s news and views website, and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is the chairman and chief legal counsel for Children’s Health Defense. Kennedy Jr. is a known anti-vaccine advocate, conspiracy theorist, author, and environmental lawyer. Children's Health Defense is an anti-vaccine advocacy group, which spreads misinformation and disinformation about COVID-19.”

https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/d84192df
The life site article I posted makes no reference to RFK.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exper ... esearchers

Among the reasons this "debunk" article is suspect:

1. Generated by Mercenary writers in the employ of vaccine salesmen

2. At least two instances of logical fallacies, including ad hominem and repetitive assertions of "dangerous"

3. Straw man attack against an article they don't even source.

Conclusion: this is paid propaganda/ disinfo.
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Post by sophie » Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:30 am

That's possible, but there is enough data piling up that the vaccines are effective against the currently circulating strains of COVID that it really doesn't matter.

You've heard me rail against the legality and ethics of coercing people to accept vaccination, due to the novelty and experimental nature of this vaccine. I still hold to that, but at the same time it's perfectly legitimate to recognize that the vaccines are proving effective. However I do believe, as many of my colleagues do, that adverse events from the vaccine are not well understood, are likely being purposely covered up and/or dismissed out of hand, and may never be fully characterized as a result. Since COVID risk is very unevenly distributed, it makes sense for each individual to weigh their own risk/benefit ratio and decide for themselves, without interference by the state.
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by tomfoolery » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:13 pm

sophie wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:30 am
However I do believe, as many of my colleagues do, that adverse events from the vaccine are not well understood, are likely being purposely covered up and/or dismissed out of hand, and may never be fully characterized as a result.
I read on CNN this week that vaccine side effects are a good thing. Because it means the vaccine is working. So don’t let people’s stories of feeling a little tired after getting the vaccine dissuade you, that just means its effective.
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by murphy_p_t » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:29 pm

+1

Irrefutable logic.
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Post by pp4me » Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:55 pm

From MSN here are some freebies you can claim if you get vaccinated.....

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/a ... tp#image=1

None of them does me any good but the most interesting one was in Detroit where you can get a free joint at a legal marijuana store.
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by murphy_p_t » Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:10 am

sophie wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:30 am
That's possible, but there is enough data piling up that the vaccines are effective against the currently circulating strains of COVID that it really doesn't matter.

You've heard me rail against the legality and ethics of coercing people to accept vaccination, due to the novelty and experimental nature of this vaccine. I still hold to that, but at the same time it's perfectly legitimate to recognize that the vaccines are proving effective. However I do believe, as many of my colleagues do, that adverse events from the vaccine are not well understood, are likely being purposely covered up and/or dismissed out of hand, and may never be fully characterized as a result. Since COVID risk is very unevenly distributed, it makes sense for each individual to weigh their own risk/benefit ratio and decide for themselves, without interference by the state.
Sophie, regarding the experimental gene therapy pushers, you challenge their ethics and legality. You also question their reporting of adverse effects.

That being the case, what gives you any confidence in their reported effectiveness claims?
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by barrett » Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:23 am

Got my second Pfizer dose on Saturday and did a long hike Sunday. No (short-term) side effects. Wife finishes up on 4/17 and daughter (23 YO) is done on 5/5. I'm guessing we'll need to get booster shots in 6-18 months but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
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Post by vnatale » Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:44 pm

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/04/04/ ... _rss_brief


Is the second dose bad? If I feel OK, is it working? Can I take Tylenol?

by Tara Parker-Pope
The Boston Globe / 2021-04-04 17:20


Q: I have heard the COVID vaccine side effects, especially after the second dose, can be really bad. Should I be worried?
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Post by pp4me » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:02 pm

I had no noticeable reaction to the second dose at all. I've heard that is fairly common in older people, a weaker immune system being my best guess as to why. I had a mild reaction to the first one so I couldn't help but wonder if the second one was even working.

My wife is a med-tech and after everybody at work got the mandatory shots they performed antibody tests on everyone. I have no idea what the numbers mean but my wife's was 6, a friend of hers was 100, and the most common number was zero. I read that the CDC did not recommend antibody testing after getting the shots so you have to wonder if this because it doesn't matter if it produces antibodies or not, or if they don't want to discourage people from taking the shots. They have a history of knowingly giving out false information for the common good thanks to Dr. Fauci so we can't rule out the latter possibility.

One thing both my wife and I observed after getting the shots is that our seasonal pollen allergies seemed to be a lot worse this year. No way to tell if there is any real connection, of course.
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Post by vnatale » Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:43 pm

pp4me wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:02 pm

I had no noticeable reaction to the second dose at all. I've heard that is fairly common in older people, a weaker immune system being my best guess as to why. I had a mild reaction to the first one so I couldn't help but wonder if the second one was even working.

My wife is a med-tech and after everybody at work got the mandatory shots they performed antibody tests on everyone. I have no idea what the numbers mean but my wife's was 6, a friend of hers was 100, and the most common number was zero. I read that the CDC did not recommend antibody testing after getting the shots so you have to wonder if this because it doesn't matter if it produces antibodies or not, or if they don't want to discourage people from taking the shots. They have a history of knowingly giving out false information for the common good thanks to Dr. Fauci so we can't rule out the latter possibility.

One thing both my wife and I observed after getting the shots is that our seasonal pollen allergies seemed to be a lot worse this year. No way to tell if there is any real connection, of course.


A friend of mine was at my house today. He will be 74 next month. He said he felt nothing from the first shot, felt tired the day after his second shot.

I get my second shot 11:30 AM this Thursday. I will report what happens afterwards. Friday morning / early afternoon is an exercise time so that will be an excellent test as to any negative effects.

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Post by doodle » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:54 pm

Got my first shot today. Pfizer one. So far nothing...not even sore arm. Been reading on how this vaccine developed. The tech behind it is pretty incredible.
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by Cortopassi » Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:19 am

doodle wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:54 pm
Got my first shot today. Pfizer one. So far nothing...not even sore arm. Been reading on how this vaccine developed. The tech behind it is pretty incredible.
Of course. It was developed by the government. Pretty soon you'll be activated... :P
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Post by doodle » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:23 am

I can feel myself coming online as it alters and reconstructs my dna to become more compliant to my lizard overlords.

Does this level of tinfoil hattery exist in other countries, or is this a uniquely american trait?
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Post by doodle » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:29 am

Just considering the number of vaccines I've had so far...pretty incredible

Polio, measles, mumps, rubella, tetanus, hep A, hep B, tuberculosis, varicella, whooping cough, various flus, smallpox,typhoid...and now covid....

I'm sure I'm leaving some off.
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Post by murphy_p_t » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:31 am

None of them were gene therapy, like the Wuhan jab
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Post by doodle » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:35 am

murphy_p_t wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:31 am
None of them were gene therapy, like the Wuhan jab
Are you getting your information from Natural News?

I have listened to quite a bit of discussion on mRNA vaccines and this whole "gene alteration" fear is nonsense and a fundamental misunderstanding of how this vaccine tech works.
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Post by doodle » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:39 am

Let me add...what do you think covid is doing when it invades your cells? It's also injecting it's genetic code into them.

* code developed in a chinese lab
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Post by Mountaineer » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:41 am

I've had vaccinations for the following, and I'm still alive and healthy without noticeable issues related to the vaccine:

Smallpox
Hepatitis A
Hepatitis B
Hepatitis C
TDAP - tetanus and diphtheria toxoids with acellular pertussis
Typhoid Fever
Meningitis (Meningococcal)
Japanese Encephalitis
Polio, both Salk and Sabin vaccines
Measles (or MMR)
Tuberculin Skin Test (PPD)
Influenza, several types
Pneumococcal, a couple types
Lyme disease
Shingles - Zostavax
Shingles - Shingrix
COVID-19 - Pfizer-BioNTech


If anyone wishes to bid on 100ml of my blood for the various antibodies it contains, PM me with offers over 100 pounds of physical gold only. O0
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Post by doodle » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:46 am

I wasn't aware there was a lyme vaccine...will have to look into that. I wonder if it exists for dogs as well
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Post by Mountaineer » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:50 am

doodle wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:46 am
I wasn't aware there was a lyme vaccine...will have to look into that. I wonder if it exists for dogs as well
I believe it was discontinued. I had the three recommended doses during the period of 1999 - 2002.

https://www.cdc.gov/lyme/prev/vaccine.html
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