Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by murphy_p_t » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:50 am

I agree that the reported death rate is minuscule, for what you relay... Which is why you may wish to let the authorities know about your view of their irrational caution.
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by I Shrugged » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:31 pm

It almost feels like the one week stoppage for study is vaccine theater.
And the post-study press release is already written.

They have every incentive to poo-poo any problems.
right?
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by murphy_p_t » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:32 pm

Or Johnson & Johnson didn't want to pay the lil' fauci extortion demand, so he's showing them who's boss.
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by tomfoolery » Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:06 pm

23 pages of posts and we are still referring to coronavirus as “the wuhan”?

Havnt enough Asian-American lives been destroyed by vicious falsehoods? We don’t even know the virus originated in China. And even if we did, what good does it do to keep talking about it?
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by murphy_p_t » Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:10 pm

I have originalist tendencies
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by vnatale » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:03 pm

Are mRNA Covid Vaccines Risky? Here’s What the Experts Say

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... r-business


This section explains why I had zero reaction while younger, far more healthy professional athletes did...

Vinny

3. What do we know about their safety?
Both vaccines can induce strong reactions, especially after the second shot, including headaches, muscle and joint pain, and fever. For example, in the Moderna trial, after the second dose of the shot, most people under 65 experienced fatigue and muscle pain; about half had chills, and 1 in 6 people got a fever. With both vaccines, these side effects are less common in older adults.
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by murphy_p_t » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:13 am

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/denm ... lood-clots


Would somebody tell the Danes that lil frauduci said it's safe and effective*

*Never mind that he has patents on the technology
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by murphy_p_t » Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:05 am

Epic rant from the Koran burner.

Will it have any effect on those cowering in fear of the CCP virus?.

https://www.barnhardt.biz/2021/04/15/th ... rspective/
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by murphy_p_t » Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:33 pm

Would be more credible if the study was not produced by the same institution responsible for the injection.
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by vnatale » Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:25 pm

For those who agree with this topic then don't go here...

Vinny

Western Alaska village puts up vaccine requirement to enter store

https://www.alaskapublic.org/2021/04/15 ... ter-store/
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by vnatale » Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:39 pm

vnatale wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:25 pm

For those who agree with this topic then don't go here...

Vinny

Western Alaska village puts up vaccine requirement to enter store

https://www.alaskapublic.org/2021/04/15 ... ter-store/


Even in Texas!

Vinny

Texas Youth Baseball Team Requiring Kids to Get COVID Vaccine to Play in Tournament — But They’re Too Young to Even Qualify

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/0 ... n-qualify/
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by Xan » Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:43 pm

vnatale wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:39 pm
vnatale wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:25 pm
For those who agree with this topic then don't go here...

Vinny

Western Alaska village puts up vaccine requirement to enter store

https://www.alaskapublic.org/2021/04/15 ... ter-store/
Even in Texas!

Vinny

Texas Youth Baseball Team Requiring Kids to Get COVID Vaccine to Play in Tournament — But They’re Too Young to Even Qualify

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/0 ... n-qualify/
That's a Texas team that's been planning to travel to New York to play a game for a long time. It's the field New York coming up with the requirement.
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by murphy_p_t » Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:26 pm

Have civil rights laws and medical privacy laws been rescinded?
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by SomeDude » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:56 am

murphy_p_t wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:26 pm
Have civil rights laws and medical privacy laws been rescinded?
We had to do something. Old, sick, and fat people were getting the flu, ostensibly at higher rates than in the past. There was no other way to slow the rampage of flu in the elderly, obese, and otherwise unhealthy segment of the population. The middle class had to be destroyed and all our God given rights violated. The science was clear on this Murph.
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Post by vnatale » Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:52 pm

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/04/17/ ... _rss_brief


Passport required? As more people are vaccinated, the thorny issue of requiring and proving vaccination grows

by Kay Lazar
The Boston Globe / 2021-04-17 14:41


Countries such as Israel already offer a “vaccine passport” for residents � a smartpphone app or piece of paper � to prove they’re vaccinaated when they access gyms, restaurants, and other public accommodations. But the federal and Massachusetts governments have shown little appetite for tackling the passport issue, leaving it to private businesses to figure out how to create safe spaces without unfairly excluding anyone from post-pandemic life.

“Our members are very much in the camp of trying to encourage vaccination rather than hang the sword of Damocles over folks.” said Christopher Geehern, executive vice president of the Associated Industries of Massachusetts, the state’s largest business group.

Geehern said many companies are offering employees information and incentives, such as gift certificates or paid time off to get vaccinated. But many have yet to sort out the difficult balance between mandating and persuading.

“Some of our members . . . have heard from employees who say, ‘I am not going to go back to work if I will be sitting next to someone who is not going to be vaccinated,’ ” Geehern said.

Many retailers struggled financially the past year and are unlikely to mandate vaccinations for customers or employees, much less require proof of inoculation, out of fear of losing business, said Jon Hurst, president of the Retailers Association of Massachusetts.

“You don’t want to alienate the consumer,” he said
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by pugchief » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:26 am

I have no doubt there are also smokers who don't want the jab. There is no logical consistency regarding Covid.

I am however, disappointed that
1. Fauci continues to refuse to let those vaccinated return to normal (no masks, no restrictions). Where's the incentive?
2. It is becoming clear that boosters will be required, maybe even semi-annually
3. I personally know several people who got the jab (not sure if it was both doses) and still caught Covid
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Post by vnatale » Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:06 am

https://www.deconstructingconventional. ... id-vaccine


18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by sophie » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:21 am

pugchief wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:26 am
3. I personally know several people who got the jab (not sure if it was both doses) and still caught Covid
Did they get sick with COVID or was it just a positive test?

Given that the mRNA vaccines cause you to make spike proteins and there is no data on how long they might linger, who the heck knows what a positive test means in a vaccinated person. Also, the vaccines won't prevent you from being infected with the virus. It'll just prevent the virus from making you clinically sick.

There's an increasingly large disconnect between #hospitalized patients with positive COVID 19 tests, and people hospitalized with clinical evidence of COVID infection. The latter are a small minority of those testing positive. The disconnect is even larger when you add in non-hospitalized positive tests....so what proportion of "COVID cases" are actually people who got sick? It won't be zero of course, but it could be as low as 10% is my guess.

Once again....the best way to end this pandemic is to stop testing. Stop it all. Test only those with clinical COVID symptoms severe enough to require treatment. That's generally how medical tests are supposed to be used. You're not ever supposed use them to make a diagnosis, only for confirmation and only in situations where the results would change treatment. It's crazy how the entire medical profession has suddenly lost sight of that.
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by pp4me » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:51 am

sophie wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:21 am
Once again....the best way to end this pandemic is to stop testing. Stop it all.
That's what they finally did with H1N1. Doubt it will happen with COVID. Can you imagine how the MSM would scream if their fear porn was taken away?
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Post by Tortoise » Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:59 pm

Stopping all Covid testing would be an implicit admission by the medical and public health establishment that “zero Covid” is not an attainable goal — that Covid is now an endemic virus in the human population, just like the flu and the common cold are.

I don’t think the establishment is ready to openly admit that fact yet. Too many promises have been made now that we can “stop Covid” if we do the right things.
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Post by vnatale » Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:27 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:59 pm

Stopping all Covid testing would be an implicit admission by the medical and public health establishment that “zero Covid” is not an attainable goal — that Covid is now an endemic virus in the human population, just like the flu and the common cold are.

I don’t think the establishment is ready to openly admit that fact yet. Too many promises have been made now that we can “stop Covid” if we do the right things.


But, again.

Is "the establishment" openly all conspiring together to do so?

Or, is this an example of "mass hysteria", "groupthink", "anything else you want to cite"?
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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Post by pugchief » Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:29 pm

sophie wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:21 am
pugchief wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:26 am
3. I personally know several people who got the jab (not sure if it was both doses) and still caught Covid
Did they get sick with COVID or was it just a positive test?

Given that the mRNA vaccines cause you to make spike proteins and there is no data on how long they might linger, who the heck knows what a positive test means in a vaccinated person. Also, the vaccines won't prevent you from being infected with the virus. It'll just prevent the virus from making you clinically sick.

There's an increasingly large disconnect between #hospitalized patients with positive COVID 19 tests, and people hospitalized with clinical evidence of COVID infection. The latter are a small minority of those testing positive. The disconnect is even larger when you add in non-hospitalized positive tests....so what proportion of "COVID cases" are actually people who got sick? It won't be zero of course, but it could be as low as 10% is my guess.

Once again....the best way to end this pandemic is to stop testing. Stop it all. Test only those with clinical COVID symptoms severe enough to require treatment. That's generally how medical tests are supposed to be used. You're not ever supposed use them to make a diagnosis, only for confirmation and only in situations where the results would change treatment. It's crazy how the entire medical profession has suddenly lost sight of that.
Sick. Although not severely. My GF's boss, who was vaccinated, got a mildish case when her husband brought it home from somewhere. I don't know all the details, so consider this like a game of 'telephone'. You're hearing it third hand.
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Post by SomeDude » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:13 am

I finally met a couple people who actually got sick from covid and lost time at work. Multiple people from a customer company were out last week because they were sick from Covid, and they are otherwise healthy and in their early 40s.

Ohhhh wait, they got sick from the "vaccines", not Covid.

I told them in the prior week it sounded like a bad idea to me.
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