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Post by vnatale » Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:58 am

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Great version of this song!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9fUv_hoMXU

Within You Without You Easy Star All-Stars


Vinny, look up the whole album. Easy All Stars did a complete reggae version of Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, beginning to end. They also did one for Dark Side of the Moon. Both are really good.


I think that after I posted the above I did listen to Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.
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Post by dualstow » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:24 am

I won't bother with links because it's rather obscure, but I've been going down the rabbit hole of UNIX & computer nostalgia -- Bell Labs in 1982; Brian Kernighan explaining how grep came about; etc. I bet you'd get a kick out of it, Smithers, if you haven't already.

And yes, Vinny, there's a Led Fridman episode featuring Brian Kernighan.
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Post by Vil » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:51 am

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Brian Kernighan explaining
Still can recall how bored I felt as one of our IT teachers was constantly repeating that Kernighan and Ritchie C is different from ANSI C. Though can't recall which of the two we were supposed to really learn ... Sometimes I get in that special mood, you know, and start reading in Wikipedia about all those IT titans from the past (modern age 'heroes' look like opportunistic rookies compared to them)
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Post by dualstow » Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:43 am

Vil wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:51 am
dualstow wrote:
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Brian Kernighan explaining
Still can recall how bored I felt as one of our IT teachers was constantly repeating that Kernighan and Ritchie C is different from ANSI C.
O0

I'm not a programmer, but I did take a C class long after graduation. I was kind of out of my depth. BASIC was great fun when I was a kid in the 80's. A whole new world. C was...memory management.

Still, I love watching these old fogies talk about regular expressions and their origins in mathematics.
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Post by vnatale » Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:06 pm

dualstow wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:24 am

I won't bother with links because it's rather obscure, but I've been going down the rabbit hole of UNIX & computer nostalgia -- Bell Labs in 1982; Brian Kernighan explaining how grep came about; etc. I bet you'd get a kick out of it, Smithers, if you haven't already.

And yes, Vinny, there's a Led Fridman episode featuring Brian Kernighan.


That is an old, old, old one!

I was not even aware of Lex back then.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9upVbGSBFo
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dualstow wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:43 am

Vil wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:51 am

dualstow wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:24 am

Brian Kernighan explaining


Still can recall how bored I felt as one of our IT teachers was constantly repeating that Kernighan and Ritchie C is different from ANSI C.
O0

I'm not a programmer, but I did take a C class long after graduation. I was kind of out of my depth. BASIC was great fun when I was a kid in the 80's. A whole new world. C was...memory management.

Still, I love watching these old fogies talk about regular expressions and their origins in mathematics.


Memory management in terms of computer memory? Not in terms of one's own memory.

Being far older than you my first exposure to computer languages was Fortran (correct?) in 1969. I was definitely not a natural at it. I think that when I went back to college in the mid-70s that it was then Basic had replaced Fortran?
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Post by Mountaineer » Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:16 pm

I remember Fortran. Gave me nightmares!
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I remember Fortran. Gave me nightmares!


Thank you. Then it was not just me who did was not immediately drawn to it. Was it phased out and replaced by Fortran sometime between 1969 and 1975?

Since you are a few years older than me you probably well remember this scenario.

You'd submit the keypunched cards to the college computing center for them to run it under batch processing along with everyone else's programs. If you got it to them early enough in the morning you could get a late afternoon output giving you the error message that you'd left out a "(" somewhere. You'd fix that so it could be run overnight which then to you finding out the next morning that you'd left another "(" out somewhere else. How were programs ever created back then??!!

I was astonished when I went back to college in 1975 and was able to sit at a terminal, create my program, submit it on the spot, and have it run immediately. That was truly like going from The Dark Ages to the Age of Enlightenment!
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Re: YouTube Junkie

Post by Mountaineer » Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:57 pm

vnatale wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:53 pm
Mountaineer wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:16 pm
I remember Fortran. Gave me nightmares!
Thank you. Then it was not just me who did was not immediately drawn to it. Was it phased out and replaced by Fortran sometime between 1969 and 1975?

Since you are a few years older than me you probably well remember this scenario.

You'd submit the keypunched cards to the college computing center for them to run it under batch processing along with everyone else's programs. If you got it to them early enough in the morning you could get a late afternoon output giving you the error message that you'd left out a "(" somewhere. You'd fix that so it could be run overnight which then to you finding out the next morning that you'd left another "(" out somewhere else. How were programs ever created back then??!!

I was astonished when I went back to college in 1975 and was able to sit at a terminal, create my program, submit it on the spot, and have it run immediately. That was truly like going from The Dark Ages to the Age of Enlightenment!
Horrors! O those punch cards that ran on an IBM 360. I remember a 3 hour Fortran computer course somewhere in the 1969-70 timeframe where I was taking 21 semester hours. I was spending more time on the Fortran course than on the other 18 hours combined. I dropped the Fortran course at the last moment to be able to “withdraw passing” with no credit. Double nightmares!!!!!!!!
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Post by dualstow » Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:08 pm

Yes, Vinny- computer memory management.
I was used to doing fun stuff and BASIC (on a Texas Instruments computer) made it easy. With C you can actually get real stuff done, but it was too obtuse for the tiny particle of brain lodged in my skull. Hence, my constant failures with Linux.
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Post by vnatale » Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:47 pm

Mountaineer wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:57 pm

vnatale wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:53 pm

Mountaineer wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:16 pm

I remember Fortran. Gave me nightmares!


Thank you. Then it was not just me who did was not immediately drawn to it. Was it phased out and replaced by Fortran sometime between 1969 and 1975?

Since you are a few years older than me you probably well remember this scenario.

You'd submit the keypunched cards to the college computing center for them to run it under batch processing along with everyone else's programs. If you got it to them early enough in the morning you could get a late afternoon output giving you the error message that you'd left out a "(" somewhere. You'd fix that so it could be run overnight which then to you finding out the next morning that you'd left another "(" out somewhere else. How were programs ever created back then??!!

I was astonished when I went back to college in 1975 and was able to sit at a terminal, create my program, submit it on the spot, and have it run immediately. That was truly like going from The Dark Ages to the Age of Enlightenment!


Horrors! O those punch cards that ran on an IBM 360. I remember a 3 hour Fortran computer course somewhere in the 1969-70 timeframe where I was taking 21 semester hours. I was spending more time on the Fortran course than on the other 18 hours combined. I dropped the Fortran course at the last moment to be able to “withdraw passing” with no credit. Double nightmares!!!!!!!!


I had a similar experience with my second computer science in exactly the second semester of that 1969 - 1970 academic year. I just could not grasp the concept of bits and bytes (while about 30 years later I came to understand it quite well) ... I decided I am never going to get this and it is a waste of my time spending any more time on this fruitless pursuit. I calculated what my GPA would be with an F in this course and decided it could stand it. Buried the book in my closet so I would not be tempted to spend any more time on it.

I was rescued by Kent State wherein in its aftermath we were giving choices for each course of taking a grade, pass / fail. or dropping the course with no penalty. The latter is what I did with that course. I was all excited that I was finally going to be getting all A's for the first time in my life that I chose to take grades for both Calculus IV (differential equations) and Gym. I was shocked when I only got a B in gym!
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