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Re: The Olympics

Post by Kriegsspiel » Sun Aug 21, 2016 1:22 pm

Take note: THIS is how you commit unsportsmanlike behavior.

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Post by Xan » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:11 am

Maybe it's not so cut-and-dried after all? Apparently the "vandalism" was much less severe than reported, and the actions of the off-duty policemen who were the security guards very well might have constituted robbery:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ol ... /89082232/
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Post by MediumTex » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:04 am

Xan wrote:Maybe it's not so cut-and-dried after all? Apparently the "vandalism" was much less severe than reported, and the actions of the off-duty policemen who were the security guards very well might have constituted robbery:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ol ... /89082232/
In virtually any legal system, pulling a gun on a person and demanding money is considered robbery.

I read the story above and it sounds like it was basically a robbery. I suspect, however, that the apparent prison guards working security would probably have just said it was a standard shakedown of foreigners, and obnoxious ones at that. That's what you get when you hold first world international events in crime-plagued backwaters like Rio.

If Lochte had told the story only slightly differently to begin with, none of the bad stuff that followed would have happened. The fact that he felt the need to embellish the story to make himself sound more courageous and the danger more acute is unfortunate because apparently someone did point a gun at them, they did produce law enforcement credentials, and they did demand money. In other words, all of the important details of Lochte's story appear to have been mostly accurate. The extent of the "vandalism" was apparently knocking a poster down that was already loose.

My takeaway from the story is that Rio is the corrupt poverty-stricken shithole that I would have imagined. I have no idea what anyone was thinking in holding the Olympics there in the first place when there are so many other places around the world with better facilities, more stable governments, and more local support for international events like the Olympics.

The fact that the Brazilian government basically kidnapped the guys who weren't able to get out of the country before this story got traction and shook them down for more money before allowing them to leave is sort of pathetic. It's almost like those guys got robbed twice.
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Re: The Olympics

Post by dualstow » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:08 pm

I love how these news stories morph as different details come to light.
It's getting very Rashomon.
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Post by MachineGhost » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:14 pm

dualstow wrote:I love how these news stories morph as different details come to light.
It's getting very Rashomon.
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Re: The Olympics

Post by Reub » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:20 pm

Why are Hillary and Obama allowed to continuously lie ad nauseum with no consequences while Lochte's life is basically ruined by simply exagerrating an obvious robbery at gunpoint that was actually perpetrated upon him?
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Post by MediumTex » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:36 pm

Reub wrote:Why are Hillary and Obama allowed to continuously lie ad nauseum with no consequences while Lochte's life is basically ruined by simply exagerrating an obvious robbery at gunpoint that was actually perpetrated upon him?
Powerful people display their power through things like telling gratuitous lies. It's a form of peacocking (or, in the case of Hillary, you might say "peacunting").

Amateur swimmers have far less power, and thus they can't lie as freely without feeling the consequences.
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Re: The Olympics

Post by Mountaineer » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:40 pm

MediumTex wrote:
Reub wrote:Why are Hillary and Obama allowed to continuously lie ad nauseum with no consequences while Lochte's life is basically ruined by simply exagerrating an obvious robbery at gunpoint that was actually perpetrated upon him?
Powerful people display their power through things like telling gratuitous lies. It's a form of peacocking (or, in the case of Hillary, you might say "peacunting").

Amateur swimmers have far less power, and thus they can't lie as freely without feeling the consequences.
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