"On days like this there are no Republicans and Democrats"

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"On days like this there are no Republicans and Democrats"

Post by Libertarian666 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:00 pm

According to Nancy Pelosi, anyway: http://www.latimes.com/politics/essenti ... story.html

Not according to the shooter, though.

The victims were very lucky that they happened to have security, which of course others don't.

Except in a state that has constitutional carry.
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Re: "On days like this there are no Republicans and Democrats"

Post by eufo » Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:33 pm

Only on days like today? #dividedwefall
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Re: "On days like this there are no Republicans and Democrats"

Post by Libertarian666 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:35 pm

eufo wrote:Only on days like today? #dividedwefall
Well, of course if a Democrat is shot, it's a different story: then it's all the Republicans' fault.
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Re: "On days like this there are no Republicans and Democrats"

Post by eufo » Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:44 pm

Libertarian666 wrote:
eufo wrote:Only on days like today? #dividedwefall
Well, of course if a Democrat is shot, it's a different story: then it's all the Republicans' fault.
I don't follow any party, but the stances on both sides are pretty clear:

Democrats - Guns kill, see? Take away the guns!
Republicans - Bad people kill! If more people carried guns we would reduce the threat of these monsters!

I suppose I'm somewhere in the middle... I don't like the idea of everyone toting a gun with them, but I still think it's everyones' Constitutional right to do so. Even without guns, people have become quite adept at killing others when that is their goal... so perhaps we need to better understand why people make that their goal and see what can be done about that.
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Re: "On days like this there are no Republicans and Democrats"

Post by Libertarian666 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:29 pm

eufo wrote:
Libertarian666 wrote:
eufo wrote:Only on days like today? #dividedwefall
Well, of course if a Democrat is shot, it's a different story: then it's all the Republicans' fault.
I don't follow any party, but the stances on both sides are pretty clear:

Democrats - Guns kill, see? Take away the guns!
Republicans - Bad people kill! If more people carried guns we would reduce the threat of these monsters!

I suppose I'm somewhere in the middle... I don't like the idea of everyone toting a gun with them, but I still think it's everyones' Constitutional right to do so. Even without guns, people have become quite adept at killing others when that is their goal... so perhaps we need to better understand why people make that their goal and see what can be done about that.
There is no middle. You are either for the murderers or for their intended victims.

Victim disarmament laws affect only the law-abiding.
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Re: "On days like this there are no Republicans and Democrats"

Post by Benko » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:14 pm

The issue of gun control is the least of the problems right now.

The fact that too many on the left see Rs as deplorable (or far worse) and are in favor of using violence is a bigger problem.
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Re: "On days like this there are no Republicans and Democrats"

Post by Libertarian666 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:20 pm

Benko wrote:The issue of gun control is the least of the problems right now.

The fact that too many on the left see Rs as deplorable (or far worse) and are in favor of using violence is a bigger problem.
The left, including the so-called "mainstream media" and Hollywood elitists, owns this. They also own all the other copycats who try the same thing.

I don't expect too much of this in Texas because there are a lot of gun owners here, but unfortunately they still require a permit for self-defense, so it isn't a sure deterrert.
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