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MangoMan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:31 am
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1 ... 1282179075

A poll showing the main concerns of Dem vs Rep voters. It's no wonder the left is unhappy. Everything is about feelings rather than actual problems.

Reviewed both lists. My interpretation is that it is the Republicans who are more concerned with perceived problems than actual problems. Republican concerns are mostly centered upon them being victims.

vnatale wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:17 pm

MangoMan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:31 am https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1 ... 1282179075

A poll showing the main concerns of Dem vs Rep voters. It's no wonder the left is unhappy. Everything is about feelings rather than actual problems.

Reviewed both lists. My interpretation is that it is the Republicans who are more concerned with perceived problems than actual problems. Republican concerns are mostly centered upon them being victims.

I'm sure we have a thread on it, Vin, but I'm a centrist and I consider lax immigration enforcement to be a serious problem, or potential problem. There's a reason Biden is continuing with the "children in cages" which, now that Biden is in command, are referred to as "facilities." Maybe it's time for a new thread on that, at least.

dualstow wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:22 pm

vnatale wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:17 pm

MangoMan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:31 am
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1 ... 1282179075

A poll showing the main concerns of Dem vs Rep voters. It's no wonder the left is unhappy. Everything is about feelings rather than actual problems.

Reviewed both lists. My interpretation is that it is the Republicans who are more concerned with perceived problems than actual problems. Republican concerns are mostly centered upon them being victims.

I'm sure we have a thread on it, Vin, but I'm a centrist and I consider lax immigration enforcement to be a serious problem, or potential problem. There's a reason Biden is continuing with the "children in cages" which, now that Biden is in command, are referred to as "facilities." Maybe it's time for a new thread on that, at least.

It was a list of 12 for which significant concern was expressed...therefore my response was not just directed to the top one. I stated an overall impression from looking at all 12.

Also, I'll throw this one in there. Most of the Republican concerns are centered upon how they believe things affect them personally, not society as a whole.

MangoMan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:24 pm

vnatale wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:05 pm

dualstow wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:22 pm

vnatale wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:17 pm

MangoMan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:31 am
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1 ... 1282179075

A poll showing the main concerns of Dem vs Rep voters. It's no wonder the left is unhappy. Everything is about feelings rather than actual problems.

Reviewed both lists. My interpretation is that it is the Republicans who are more concerned with perceived problems than actual problems. Republican concerns are mostly centered upon them being victims.

I'm sure we have a thread on it, Vin, but I'm a centrist and I consider lax immigration enforcement to be a serious problem, or potential problem. There's a reason Biden is continuing with the "children in cages" which, now that Biden is in command, are referred to as "facilities." Maybe it's time for a new thread on that, at least.

It was a list of 12 for which significant concern was expressed...therefore my response was not just directed to the top one. I stated an overall impression from looking at all 12.

Also, I'll throw this one in there. Most of the Republican concerns are centered upon how they believe things affect them personally, not society as a whole.

With the exception of High Taxes (which could debatably be bad for the entire economy), which of those items specifically "affect them personally"? Because when I look at that GOP list, it seems like they are all societal.

Those which either affect them personally via their affiliated groups or which are grossly imagined large society problems or both would be:

1) Lack of support for the police
2) Liberal bias in mainstream media
3) General moral decline of the country
4) Socialism
5) Antifa violence
6) China
7) Legal abortion in the third trimester
Election fraud
9) Tech company censorship
10) Discrimination against Christians

Now that you motivated me to create list I now see I could have more efficiently responded by stating: "All but the first one".

I don't agree with all on the Democrats' list but I believe that far more on their list have applicability to those outside of their affiliated groups or are not imagined or both.

MangoMan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:47 pm

vnatale wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:43 pm

MangoMan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:24 pm

vnatale wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:05 pm

dualstow wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:22 pm

vnatale wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:17 pm

MangoMan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:31 am
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1 ... 1282179075

A poll showing the main concerns of Dem vs Rep voters. It's no wonder the left is unhappy. Everything is about feelings rather than actual problems.

Reviewed both lists. My interpretation is that it is the Republicans who are more concerned with perceived problems than actual problems. Republican concerns are mostly centered upon them being victims.

I'm sure we have a thread on it, Vin, but I'm a centrist and I consider lax immigration enforcement to be a serious problem, or potential problem. There's a reason Biden is continuing with the "children in cages" which, now that Biden is in command, are referred to as "facilities." Maybe it's time for a new thread on that, at least.

It was a list of 12 for which significant concern was expressed...therefore my response was not just directed to the top one. I stated an overall impression from looking at all 12.

Also, I'll throw this one in there. Most of the Republican concerns are centered upon how they believe things affect them personally, not society as a whole.

With the exception of High Taxes (which could debatably be bad for the entire economy), which of those items specifically "affect them personally"? Because when I look at that GOP list, it seems like they are all societal.

Those which either affect them personally via their affiliated groups or which are grossly imagined large society problems or both would be:

1) Lack of support for the police
2) Liberal bias in mainstream media
3) General moral decline of the country
4) Socialism
5) Antifa violence
6) China
7) Legal abortion in the third trimester
Election fraud
9) Tech company censorship
10) Discrimination against Christians

Now that you motivated me to create list I now see I could have more efficiently responded by stating: "All but the first one".

I don't agree with all on the Democrats' list but I believe that far more on their list have applicability to those outside of their affiliated groups or are not imagined or both.

And there's the problem. YOU think they are grossly imagined. Republicans think they are very real and extremely important, just like climate change is to the left. And you still haven't explained how any of these things are personal rather than societal. For instance, how is 'China' a personal issue?

Explain to me how this is one bit different from what you started this by saying: "It's no wonder the left is unhappy. Everything is about feelings rather than actual problems."

Is that not you starting that YOU believe all all what the Republicans believe ARE actual problems while NONE of what the Democrats believe are actual problems?

Again I stated: "Those which either affect them personally via their affiliated groups or which are grossly imagined large society problems or both would be"

Chine is not a "personal issue" but a "grossly imagined large society problem".

If they really believed the latter why are they all spending so much money on China products? Actions always speak for one's true values rather than the values one espouses.

tomfoolery wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:25 pm General moral decline of country is a personal problem for people who think women shouldn't vote and aren't allowed to have a penis.

Good news! Everyone is now allowed to have a penis--and at taxpayer expense.

Maddy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:02 am

tomfoolery wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:25 pm General moral decline of country is a personal problem for people who think women shouldn't vote and aren't allowed to have a penis.

Good news! Everyone is now allowed to have a penis--and at taxpayer expense.

If you’re late will you be penalized?

dualstow wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:06 am

Maddy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:02 am

tomfoolery wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:25 pm General moral decline of country is a personal problem for people who think women shouldn't vote and aren't allowed to have a penis.

Good news! Everyone is now allowed to have a penis--and at taxpayer expense.

If you’re late will you be penalized?

You have to say that the way Alex Trebek did or it doesn't make sense.

I miss Trebek’s enunciations already. End of an era.
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on topic: THE ELECT: THE THREAT TO A PROGRESSIVE AMERICA FROM ANTI-BLACK ANTIRACISTS
I don’t think John McWhorter means any offense to the deeply religious, nor do I when I post it. It’s pitch perfect in my opinion.

https://johnmcwhorter.substack.com/p/th ... rogressive

dualstow wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:39 pm I miss Trebek’s enunciations already. End of an era.
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on topic: THE ELECT: THE THREAT TO A PROGRESSIVE AMERICA FROM ANTI-BLACK ANTIRACISTS
I don’t think John McWhorter means any offense to the deeply religious, nor do I when I post it. It’s pitch perfect in my opinion.

https://johnmcwhorter.substack.com/p/th ... rogressive

McWhorter is a genius and one of my favorite people to listen to, despite being as he describes a "cranky liberal Democrat". And it's all because he's one of a small number of voices willing to say true things, rather than the "right" things, about race.

I know his arguments about antiracism as a religion are couched in a mostly anti-religious context. Even reading them as a religious person, his points remain pretty much valid, and it's easy to interpret them as saying that antiracism as a religion detracts from and competes against true religion, which I believe it does.

Everyone has a religion (or "worldview" if you like) and McWhorter is writing from the perspective of his atheistic-materialistic-scientism outlook, which is just another religion, so his complaints against "religion" in general still apply to himself, and really the essay is describing how antiracism detracts from and competes against true religion. You can just plug in whichever true religion you want.

I do wonder what it would be like for somebody who is a member of the Church of Woke to read that.

Xan wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:48 pm

dualstow wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:39 pm ...
on topic: THE ELECT: THE THREAT TO A PROGRESSIVE AMERICA FROM ANTI-BLACK ANTIRACISTS
I don’t think John McWhorter means any offense to the deeply religious, nor do I when I post it. It’s pitch perfect in my opinion.

https://johnmcwhorter.substack.com/p/th ... rogressive

McWhorter is a genius and one of my favorite people to listen to,
...
Even reading them as a religious person, his points remain pretty much valid,
...
Everyone has a religion (or "worldview" if you like) and McWhorter is writing from the perspective of his atheistic-materialistic-scientism outlook, which is just another religion, so his complaints against "religion" in general still apply to himself,

Absolutely.

I do wonder what it would be like for somebody who is a member of the Church of Woke to read that.

Oh, they would roll their eyes as he often says. If they even bothered to push through the first paragraph.
I'm glad you're a fan, too. I'm afraid he doesn't have enough of a following in this new woke world.

Do you guys listen to The Glenn Show podcast where Glenn Loury often talks to John McWhorter? That's one of my favorite podcasts. I hardly miss an episode. Those two guys are great.

stuper1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:10 pm Do you guys listen to The Glenn Show podcast where Glenn Loury often talks to John McWhorter? That's one of my favorite podcasts. I hardly miss an episode. Those two guys are great.

Oh yes. Bloggingheads TV on youtube. So great, both of them. Glenn even lets John get a word in nowadays.

I must have first encountered John McWhorter on C-Span's Book TV...would have been him being interviewed regarding one of his books. I was sufficiently impressed by it to buy several of his books.

I read through the above once. Quite long. Hope to be able to motivate myself to read is again.

Sent it on to several others.

vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:13 pm I must have first encountered John McWhorter on C-Span's Book TV...would have been him being interviewed regarding one of his books. I was sufficiently impressed by it to buy several of his books.

I read through the above once. Quite long. Hope to be able to motivate myself to read is again.

Sent it on to several others.

You're a fan, too? Excellent. I posted some of his videos on this forum in the past, including Bloggingheads, but I don't remember it getting much traction. Maybe Xan or Tortoise.

dualstow wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:02 pm

vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:13 pm
I must have first encountered John McWhorter on C-Span's Book TV...would have been him being interviewed regarding one of his books. I was sufficiently impressed by it to buy several of his books.

I read through the above once. Quite long. Hope to be able to motivate myself to read is again.

Sent it on to several others.

You're a fan, too? Excellent. I posted some of his videos on this forum in the past, including Bloggingheads, but I don't remember it getting much traction. Maybe Xan or Tortoise.

I am far more of a reader than a video watcher. Demands too much attention. Unless it's something that I can just listen to while I'm doing something else that is not fully demanding of my mind so that I can actually hear most of what I am listening to.

vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:10 pm
I am far more of a reader than a video watcher. Demands too much attention. Unless it's something that I can just listen to while I'm doing something else that is not fully demanding of my mind so that I can actually hear most of what I am listening to.

Just pretend it’s C-Span.

dualstow wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:42 pm

vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:10 pm

I am far more of a reader than a video watcher. Demands too much attention. Unless it's something that I can just listen to while I'm doing something else that is not fully demanding of my mind so that I can actually hear most of what I am listening to.

Just pretend it’s C-Span.

When I have C-Span on it does not get my 100% attention. I'm always doing something else while it is on.

“Is the Cat in the Hat Racist?”

#notTheOnion

The Next Cancellation Target: Dr. Seuss

Former First Lady Michelle Obama welcomed the Cat in the Hat to the White House in 2015. Six years later, Dr. Seuss is increasingly unwelcome at public schools in the nation’s capital.

— WSJ
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-next-c ... 1614623372

dualstow wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:15 pm The Next Cancellation Target: Dr. Seuss

Maybe this means UC San Diego will be pressured to rename its iconic Geisel Library?

Tortoise wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:29 pm

dualstow wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:15 pm The Next Cancellation Target: Dr. Seuss

Maybe this means UC San Diego will be pressured to rename its iconic Geisel Library?

Oh it’s gonna happen, Tortoise.

Btw, in the comments of that wsj article, someone mentioned the targeting of Bon Appetit magazine because a non-Jewish woman wrote a recipe for Jewish pastries (Purim hamantashen). That was in pre-woke 2015, but Bon Appetit is fixing it as part of their Archive Repair Project. yikes.
I guess this falls under the wokist charge of cultural appropriation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/22/opin ... lture.html (Bret Stephens defends against the left)

dualstow wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:48 pm

Tortoise wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:29 pm

dualstow wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:15 pm The Next Cancellation Target: Dr. Seuss

Maybe this means UC San Diego will be pressured to rename its iconic Geisel Library?

Oh it’s gonna happen, Tortoise.

Btw, in the comments of that wsj article, someone mentioned the targeting of Bon Appetit magazine because a non-Jewish woman wrote a recipe for Jewish pastries (Purim hamantashen). That was in pre-woke 2015, but Bon Appetit is fixing it as part of their Archive Repair Project. yikes.
I guess this falls under the wokist charge of cultural appropriation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/22/opin ... lture.html (Bret Stephens defends against the left)

Archive Repair Project?? Holy 1984, Batman!

Oh my gosh, forget the two above; they’re nothing! They led to this one, and it’ll make your blood boil.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/is-th ... dal-threat

dualstow wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:14 pm Oh my gosh, forget the two above; they’re nothing! They led to this one, and it’ll make your blood boil.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/is-th ... dal-threat

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Tortoise wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:23 pm

dualstow wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:14 pm Oh my gosh, forget the two above; they’re nothing! They led to this one, and it’ll make your blood boil.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/is-th ... dal-threat

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Just use Reader View on a tablet or phone. They haven’t learned to block that.