U.S. life expectancy falls for second straight year — as drug overdoses soar

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U.S. life expectancy falls for second straight year — as drug overdoses soar

Post by farjean2 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:42 pm

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ameri ... es-n831676

Really bad news if you were born last year. Because of heroin....
Overall life expectancy for a baby born in 2016 fell to 78.6 years, a small decline of 0.1 percent, the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) team found. At the same time, mortality from drug overdoses rose by 21 percent.
But it's not all bad news (I think).....
“The new report shows the decline in life expectancy occurred despite an overall decline in U.S. mortality,” the statement added.
This article makes my head hurt but the obvious conclusion is that we need to increase government expenditures in the war on drugs or else those 1 year old babies are at risk.
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Post by Kriegsspiel » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:49 pm

farjean2 wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ameri ... es-n831676

Really bad news if you were born last year. Because of heroin....
Overall life expectancy for a baby born in 2016 fell to 78.6 years, a small decline of 0.1 percent, the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) team found. At the same time, mortality from drug overdoses rose by 21 percent.
But it's not all bad news (I think).....
“The new report shows the decline in life expectancy occurred despite an overall decline in U.S. mortality,” the statement added.
This article makes my head hurt but the obvious conclusion is that we need to increase government expenditures in the war on drugs or else those 1 year old babies are at risk.
This just in: life expectancy continues to be shitty for drug addicts. Now over to Tricia, with the weather.
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Post by eufo » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:58 pm

"but life expectancy calculations are forward-looking projections"

Zombie apocalypse and SkyNet are skewing the numbers
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Post by sophie » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:17 pm

farjean2 wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ameri ... es-n831676

Really bad news if you were born last year. Because of heroin....
Overall life expectancy for a baby born in 2016 fell to 78.6 years, a small decline of 0.1 percent, the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) team found. At the same time, mortality from drug overdoses rose by 21 percent.
But it's not all bad news (I think).....
“The new report shows the decline in life expectancy occurred despite an overall decline in U.S. mortality,” the statement added.
This article makes my head hurt but the obvious conclusion is that we need to increase government expenditures in the war on drugs or else those 1 year old babies are at risk.
With all due respect, how can the NCHS predict the life expectancy of a baby born in 2016 with the precision needed to compare year to year? No wonder your head hurts!

Put this in the same category as stock market predictions and move on.
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Post by technovelist » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:20 am

There is a very simple way to reduce this plague noticeably. It even SAVES the government money.

Deschedule cannabis.
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Post by ochotona » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:07 am

technovelist wrote:There is a very simple way to reduce this plague noticeably. It even SAVES the government money.

Deschedule cannabis.
Absolutely!
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Post by eufo » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:05 am

technovelist wrote:There is a very simple way to reduce this plague noticeably. It even SAVES the government money.

Deschedule cannabis.
It's been happening, slowly but surely. I predict it will be nationwide recreational use within a decade.
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Post by dualstow » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:27 am

technovelist wrote:
Deschedule cannabis.
We’re getting there.
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Post by Cortopassi » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:39 am

If you haven't seen the 60 Minutes segments on how the DEA has been handcuffed and intimidated by select congresspeople and McKesson regarding opioids, it is a sad eye opener that when you are big enough, just like from 2008, all you get are measly fines for terrible behavior.
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Post by dualstow » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:05 pm

Cortopassi wrote:If you haven't seen the 60 Minutes segments on how the DEA has been handcuffed and intimidated by select congresspeople and McKesson regarding opioids, it is a sad eye opener that when you are big enough, just like from 2008, all you get are measly fines for terrible behavior.
https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-whistleblower/
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Post by sophie » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:05 pm

Thanks for the link, Dualstow. BTW what's the story behind the new avatar? It looks like a collector's item plate.

However, I am absolutely dumbfounded at the theory put forth by this video, that distributors are "pumping drugs" into people who don't need them and are therefore responsible for their deaths. They're talking as if opioids are something new. They're not. They've been around for thousands of years, have been commonly used in something like their present form for the past hundred or so years, and - here's the real kicker - they are all cheap, generic drugs that pharmaceuticals and distributors by definition don't make a lot of money on. For example, Vicodin is listed at $13 for 60 tablets on goodrx, and morphine 15mg tablets are $25 for 120. The real money is in brand name statins, diabetes meds, etc.

The other issue, of course, is that distributors (legal ones anyway) can't "pump drugs" into people. A prescription has to be written first. Some people then sell the drugs on the street - but that, too, has been going on for decades.

This has all the hallmarks of a manufactured crisis, and a way of deflecting attention from what is probably the real issue: the epidemic of depression and related psychiatric illness that causes people to self-medicate and commit suicide.
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Post by technovelist » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:55 pm

sophie wrote:Thanks for the link, Dualstow. BTW what's the story behind the new avatar? It looks like a collector's item plate.

However, I am absolutely dumbfounded at the theory put forth by this video, that distributors are "pumping drugs" into people who don't need them and are therefore responsible for their deaths. They're talking as if opioids are something new. They're not. They've been around for thousands of years, have been commonly used in something like their present form for the past hundred or so years, and - here's the real kicker - they are all cheap, generic drugs that pharmaceuticals and distributors by definition don't make a lot of money on. For example, Vicodin is listed at $13 for 60 tablets on goodrx, and morphine 15mg tablets are $25 for 120. The real money is in brand name statins, diabetes meds, etc.

The other issue, of course, is that distributors (legal ones anyway) can't "pump drugs" into people. A prescription has to be written first. Some people then sell the drugs on the street - but that, too, has been going on for decades.

This has all the hallmarks of a manufactured crisis, and a way of deflecting attention from what is probably the real issue: the epidemic of depression and related psychiatric illness that causes people to self-medicate and commit suicide.
I think TDS is probably responsible for some of this too.
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