Trump has Covid-19

[Cortopassi]

Now CNN says he tested positive ~72 hours earlier than indicated.

[Xan]

Now CNN says he tested positive ~72 hours earlier than indicated.

Christie, or Trump?

[yankees60]

Now CNN says he tested positive ~72 hours earlier than indicated.

Christie, or Trump?

I'm guessing Cortopassi is referring to Christie (but points out the problem when doing a response and not quoting to what you respond to as while you are creating your response other messages may have slipped in between what your are responding to and your response).

Vinny

[yankees60]

Day after seeing Trump at Bedminster fundraiser, guests 'flabbergasted' to learn he was stricken

Trump had already been exposed, sources said, but guests said he looked fine.


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/day-tru ... d=73394174

[yankees60]

Trump's Doctor Says He's 'Doing Very Well,' But Source Calls Next 48 Hours 'Critical'

https://www.npr.org/sections/latest-upd ... witter.com

[WiseOne]

I’m at my Moms house an CNN is on almost nonstop.

They’re breathlessly describing Trump as fighting for his life, battling the disease etc. all very dramatic. I’m amazed that anyone considers CNN to be news.

I’m pretty sure this is going to be the death knell for Trumps chances of re election. It looks bad to have so many in the inner circle testing positive, and they are pitching this as evidence of irresponsible and incompetent behavior. Which is not an unreasonable interpretation.

Also did you all note that the riots and violence in the cities have settled down? And the whole BLM thing is off the radar? Once the dnc realized this wasn’t going their way they shut it down. Really? Amazing coincidence maybe? This also takes away one of trumps big campaign points.

[Tortoise]

I’m pretty sure this is going to be the death knell for Trumps chances of re election. It looks bad to have so many in the inner circle testing positive, and they are pitching this as evidence of irresponsible and incompetent behavior. Which is not an unreasonable interpretation.

Yeah, it’s pretty bad. One of those people might even get the sniffles.

[Cortopassi]

Amazing how everything else fell off the radar.

Christie is a big guy. Most of the ones who got it are older. We shall see if sniffles is the worst of it.

You are then by default saying Trump is in the hospital for multiple days for sniffles. Either way, not good.

And now Christie in the hospital. What a bunch of weenies. /sarc

[yankees60]

Amazing how everything else fell off the radar.

Christie is a big guy. Most of the ones who got it are older. We shall see if sniffles is the worst of it.

You are then by default saying Trump is in the hospital for multiple days for sniffles. Either way, not good.

And now Christie in the hospital. What a bunch of weenies. /sarc

You left out your closing line: "I like people who don't go into hospitals."

We know there is only one person in the world capable of making that statement.

Vinny

[Cortopassi]

Sorry, had to change my avatar. Not that I am sold on Biden, but well, as WiseOne put it...death knell.

tech, if you can't deal with seeing it, ignore me...

[yankees60]

Sorry, had to change my avatar. Not that I am sold on Biden, but well, as WiseOne put it...death knell.

tech, if you can't deal with seeing it, ignore me...

I will still be voting for the Libertarian candidate. If the Democratic party had put up just about anyone else but Biden the Democratic candidate would have got my vote. But my abiding 30+ years dislike of Biden will not allow me to vote for him.

But who knows. By election day neither may be on the ballot! It's 2020! Expect the unexpected!

Vinny

[doodle]

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This photo just does it for me. Visually this just looks so dumb from what is supposed to be our leadership.

If any one of his close staff get extremely sick or die I think it's game over for reelection

[Libertarian666]

Sorry, had to change my avatar. Not that I am sold on Biden, but well, as WiseOne put it...death knell.

tech, if you can't deal with seeing it, ignore me...

Two can play at that game.

[doodle]

I’m at my Moms house an CNN is on almost nonstop.

They’re breathlessly describing Trump as fighting for his life, battling the disease etc. all very dramatic. I’m amazed that anyone considers CNN to be news.

I’m pretty sure this is going to be the death knell for Trumps chances of re election. It looks bad to have so many in the inner circle testing positive, and they are pitching this as evidence of irresponsible and incompetent behavior. Which is not an unreasonable interpretation.

Also did you all note that the riots and violence in the cities have settled down? And the whole BLM thing is off the radar? Once the dnc realized this wasn’t going their way they shut it down. Really? Amazing coincidence maybe? This also takes away one of trumps big campaign points.

Since it's CNN, you can safely assume it is fake news. And in fact the polling says the opposite: Trump is now several points up from his pre-debate number.
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election ... is-debate/

Countered with breitbart article...yeah that's fair and balanced lol. Techno, you do realize that the news stations on the right you frequent are just as biased and full of misinformation as the ones on the left you criticize, right?

[ahhrunforthehills]

lol. What world are you guys living in? You actually think that people that WOULD HAVE voted for Trump 2 days ago will now suddenly either:

1. Not vote at all, or
2. Vote for Biden

Seriously?! No offense, but you guys are delusional.

I think you guys must think that there are a bunch of undecided voters out there.

Let me give you a little insider information since I actually live in 1 of 2 battleground counties in a must-win swing state.

Where I live, if a known democrat or someone you don’t know well asks who you are voting for... MANY MANY women here say “I don’t know”. In fact, my wife has sternly told me to NEVER tell anyone that she votes republican. Lots of women don’t want to draw attention to themselves or their kids (since their teachers are typically liberal democrats). In fact, if a minority asks them, they will lie and say Democrat.

I don’t know anybody who is REALLY undecided. How can you be in such a polarized election??

In fact, my wife’s recent anonymous local Facebook “mom’s” group poll showed pretty clear side-picking. And no, Biden was not leading among those suburban white women. It was pretty much tied (which is not a good sign for Biden).

There are also waaaayyyy more Trump signs in yards and noticeably less Democrat yard signs compared to 2016. Ironically, the national polls for our battle-ground county still have Biden as the favorite (just like Clinton).

Biden better hope Trump actually dies.... and even that might not bring him victory.

[yankees60]

lol. What world are you guys living in? You actually think that people that WOULD HAVE voted for Trump 2 days ago will now suddenly either:

1. Not vote at all, or
2. Vote for Biden

Seriously?! No offense, but you guys are delusional.

I think you guys must think that there are a bunch of undecided voters out there.

Let me give you a little insider information since I actually live in 1 of 2 battleground counties in a must-win swing state.

Where I live, if a known democrat or someone you don’t know well asks who you are voting for... MANY MANY women here say “I don’t know”. In fact, my wife has sternly told me to NEVER tell anyone that she votes republican. Lots of women don’t want to draw attention to themselves or their kids (since their teachers are typically liberal democrats). In fact, if a minority asks them, they will lie and say Democrat.

I don’t know anybody who is REALLY undecided. How can you be in such a polarized election??

In fact, my wife’s recent anonymous local Facebook “mom’s” group poll showed pretty clear side-picking. And no, Biden was not leading among those suburban white women. It was pretty much tied (which is not a good sign for Biden).

There are also waaaayyyy more Trump signs in yards and noticeably less Democrat yard signs compared to 2016. Ironically, the national polls for our battle-ground county still have Biden as the favorite (just like Clinton).

Biden better hope Trump actually dies.... and even that might not bring him victory.

Are these at all contradictory?

Vinny

[ahhrunforthehills]

lol. What world are you guys living in? You actually think that people that WOULD HAVE voted for Trump 2 days ago will now suddenly either:

1. Not vote at all, or
2. Vote for Biden

Seriously?! No offense, but you guys are delusional.

I think you guys must think that there are a bunch of undecided voters out there.

Let me give you a little insider information since I actually live in 1 of 2 battleground counties in a must-win swing state.

Where I live, if a known democrat or someone you don’t know well asks who you are voting for... MANY MANY women here say “I don’t know”. In fact, my wife has sternly told me to NEVER tell anyone that she votes republican. Lots of women don’t want to draw attention to themselves or their kids (since their teachers are typically liberal democrats). In fact, if a minority asks them, they will lie and say Democrat.

I don’t know anybody who is REALLY undecided. How can you be in such a polarized election??

In fact, my wife’s recent anonymous local Facebook “mom’s” group poll showed pretty clear side-picking. And no, Biden was not leading among those suburban white women. It was pretty much tied (which is not a good sign for Biden).

There are also waaaayyyy more Trump signs in yards and noticeably less Democrat yard signs compared to 2016. Ironically, the national polls for our battle-ground county still have Biden as the favorite (just like Clinton).

Biden better hope Trump actually dies.... and even that might not bring him victory.

Are these at all contradictory?

Vinny

I can’t tell if you are being a wise-@ass or serious, but I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt...

I said “Many”, not “All”
I said “Women”, not “Men and Women”

Besides, these 2 comments are not dependent on each other... unless you answer “yes” to the following questions:

Do you think all yards have a sign?

Do you think that my 1st statement somehow means that it is no longer possible to see an increase / decrease of republican/democratic support between elections?

Those were rhetorical questions.

[doodle]

Either way this election goes it sucks for america...I don't think either party or candidate really has much to offer in terms or leadership or good ideas for the common American working person. At this point I can no longer stand the bullying and style of Trump. As I've said on multiple occasions he is a toxic human being...definitely a sociopath. He has been embroiled in over 3000 lawsuits in his career. His life is an ongoing episode of real housewives with all the associated drama. I'd vote for a plate of soggy vegetables rather than another 4 years of this.

[yankees60]

lol. What world are you guys living in? You actually think that people that WOULD HAVE voted for Trump 2 days ago will now suddenly either:

1. Not vote at all, or
2. Vote for Biden

Seriously?! No offense, but you guys are delusional.

I think you guys must think that there are a bunch of undecided voters out there.

Let me give you a little insider information since I actually live in 1 of 2 battleground counties in a must-win swing state.

Where I live, if a known democrat or someone you don’t know well asks who you are voting for... MANY MANY women here say “I don’t know”. In fact, my wife has sternly told me to NEVER tell anyone that she votes republican. Lots of women don’t want to draw attention to themselves or their kids (since their teachers are typically liberal democrats). In fact, if a minority asks them, they will lie and say Democrat.

I don’t know anybody who is REALLY undecided. How can you be in such a polarized election??

In fact, my wife’s recent anonymous local Facebook “mom’s” group poll showed pretty clear side-picking. And no, Biden was not leading among those suburban white women. It was pretty much tied (which is not a good sign for Biden).

There are also waaaayyyy more Trump signs in yards and noticeably less Democrat yard signs compared to 2016. Ironically, the national polls for our battle-ground county still have Biden as the favorite (just like Clinton).

Biden better hope Trump actually dies.... and even that might not bring him victory.

Are these at all contradictory?

Vinny

I can’t tell if you are being a wise-@ass or serious, but I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt...

I said “Many”, not “All”
I said “Women”, not “Men and Women”

Besides, these 2 comments are not dependent on each other... unless you answer “yes” to the following questions:

Do you think all yards have a sign?

Do you think that my 1st statement somehow means that it is no longer possible to see an increase / decrease of republican/democratic support between elections?

Those were rhetorical questions.

I was being totally serious.

"Many, many" could be interpreted as being around the 70% range?

Yes, no absolute numbers implied with your signs statement. But wouldn't be a reasonable assumption that it's only single family homeowners and not multi-family houses that would have the signs? And, a further reasonable assumption that the vast majority of those houses are occupied by an adult male and adult female, both of whom agree with the sign?

Therefore, though a woman who does not know me that well and who are Trump voters will tell me, "I don't know"? Yet if I do know where they live I have a great indicator of who they are voting for? Of course, what I say depends that I know where they live.

Vinny

[ahhrunforthehills]

Either way this election goes it sucks for america...I don't think either party or candidate really has much to offer in terms or leadership or good ideas for the common American working person. At this point I can no longer stand the bullying and style of Trump. As I've said on multiple occasions he is a toxic human being...definitely a sociopath. He has been embroiled in over 3000 lawsuits in his career. His life is an ongoing episode of real housewives with all the associated drama. I'd vote for a plate of soggy vegetables rather than another 4 years of this.

I can understand that and agree on how toxic he seems.

On the other side some people are also fed up with the career politicians (Biden is a perfect example).

For many people, Trump is not the LOGICAL or MORAL choice... he is simply a match to light a fire to what is perceived as a broken system.

Hard to reason when feelings are at the forefront. After all, look at the huge turnout of Obama’s first election under the “Hope” and “Change”.

Trump is tapping into that same emotion of righting-a-wrong. Logics and morals basically go out the window.

I suppose that problem is also why the framers made sure we did not have a real democracy. Individual voters would drive the whole country into the ground REALLY fast.

[Xan]

But who knows. By election day neither may be on the ballot! It's 2020! Expect the unexpected!

That's an interesting angle. There's certainly a non-zero chance that both will be dead/incapacitated by the election.

But I think at this point, even if they died, they'd be the names on the ballot. Voting has already started, hasn't it? They can't change ballots now. I'm not sure what would happen if a dead man were to win. Would the electors pledged to him be free to vote for whoever? Would the party nominate someone else? Would the VP candidate become the President?

[ahhrunforthehills]

lol. What world are you guys living in? You actually think that people that WOULD HAVE voted for Trump 2 days ago will now suddenly either:

1. Not vote at all, or
2. Vote for Biden

Seriously?! No offense, but you guys are delusional.

I think you guys must think that there are a bunch of undecided voters out there.

Let me give you a little insider information since I actually live in 1 of 2 battleground counties in a must-win swing state.

Where I live, if a known democrat or someone you don’t know well asks who you are voting for... MANY MANY women here say “I don’t know”. In fact, my wife has sternly told me to NEVER tell anyone that she votes republican. Lots of women don’t want to draw attention to themselves or their kids (since their teachers are typically liberal democrats). In fact, if a minority asks them, they will lie and say Democrat.

I don’t know anybody who is REALLY undecided. How can you be in such a polarized election??

In fact, my wife’s recent anonymous local Facebook “mom’s” group poll showed pretty clear side-picking. And no, Biden was not leading among those suburban white women. It was pretty much tied (which is not a good sign for Biden).

There are also waaaayyyy more Trump signs in yards and noticeably less Democrat yard signs compared to 2016. Ironically, the national polls for our battle-ground county still have Biden as the favorite (just like Clinton).

Biden better hope Trump actually dies.... and even that might not bring him victory.

Are these at all contradictory?

Vinny

I can’t tell if you are being a wise-@ass or serious, but I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt...

I said “Many”, not “All”
I said “Women”, not “Men and Women”

Besides, these 2 comments are not dependent on each other... unless you answer “yes” to the following questions:

Do you think all yards have a sign?

Do you think that my 1st statement somehow means that it is no longer possible to see an increase / decrease of republican/democratic support between elections?

Those were rhetorical questions.

I was being totally serious.

"Many, many" could be interpreted as being around the 70% range?

Yes, no absolute numbers implied with your signs statement. But wouldn't be a reasonable assumption that it's only single family homeowners and not multi-family houses that would have the signs? And, a further reasonable assumption that the vast majority of those houses are occupied by an adult male and adult female, both of whom agree with the sign?

Therefore, though a woman who does not know me that well and who are Trump voters will tell me, "I don't know"? Yet if I do know where they live I have a great indicator of who they are voting for? Of course, what I say depends that I know where they live.

Vinny

My apologies for being harsh then.

Although I known many people (both democrat and republican), i don’t know everyone in my voting district. I can only speak of the sample size for which i am aware. Thar is why I said “Many” instead of “Most” or “All”.

However, with that said, I know a lot of people. Being a “closet republican” is certainly a very real thing out here for many people.

The vast majority of yards do not have yard signs in my surrounding area. But there are still a lot... for example, this year EVERY house on my street has one except for us. They are all Trump.... and many of the signs are huge.

Trump energy seems way up this year (as opposed to 2016). Hillary appears to have had more energy than Biden does. In fact, Biden signs are super noticeable because they are pretty rare.

[Tortoise]

You are then by default saying Trump is in the hospital for multiple days for sniffles.

Pretty much, yeah. Trump got a fever and some mild cold-like symptoms, and that's about it. Because he's the President and Covid-1984 is a Big, Scary New Virus, they whisked him away to the hospital out of an "abundance of caution." They aren't taking any chances.

But yeah, it's basically the sniffles. That's what SARS-CoV-2 is for the vast majority of the population that isn't extremely frail, sick, or in nursing homes. It's a new variant of the common cold.

And now Christie in the hospital. What a bunch of weenies. /sarc

Christie just has mild cold-like symptoms. He checked himself in to the hospital out of an abundance of caution, just like Trump. Neither one of them really needed to be hospitalized unless they had difficulty breathing, so yeah -- they are both kind of acting like weenies over their sniffles.

Trump is a politician, so he's going to spin his sniffles in a way that wins him the most political points before the election. He'll come out looking like a strong survivor, a "war hero" of sorts. Yawn. I'm still voting for him since he hasn't vowed to destroy American culture and tradition like the Democrats have.

[doodle]

You are then by default saying Trump is in the hospital for multiple days for sniffles.

Pretty much, yeah. Trump got a fever and some mild cold-like symptoms, and that's about it. Because he's the President and Covid-1984 is a Big, Scary New Virus, they whisked him away to the hospital out of an "abundance of caution." They aren't taking any chances.

But yeah, it's basically the sniffles. That's what SARS-CoV-2 is for the vast majority of the population that isn't extremely frail, sick, or in nursing homes. It's a new variant of the common cold.

And now Christie in the hospital. What a bunch of weenies. /sarc

Christie just has mild cold-like symptoms. He checked himself in to the hospital out of an abundance of caution, just like Trump. Neither one of them really needed to be hospitalized unless they had difficulty breathing, so yeah -- they are both kind of acting like weenies over their sniffles.

Trump is a politician, so he's going to spin his sniffles in a way that wins him the most political points before the election. He'll come out looking like a strong survivor, a "war hero" of sorts. Yawn. I'm still voting for him since he hasn't vowed to destroy American culture and tradition like the Democrats have.

What American culture and traditions have they vowed to destroy?

[Tortoise]

What American culture and traditions have [Democrats] vowed to destroy?

Their vow has taken the form of the sum total of their actions in recent decades, accelerating in recent years. And actions speak louder than words:

- The Dems’ Covid-1984 lockdowns have been blatantly unconstitutional, and they’ve practically been drooling over a supposed “new normal” that bears little resemblance to the pre-2020 American culture.

- The Dem mayors of many of America’s formerly great cities have allowed endless rioting, vandalism, crime, and homelessness to consume their cities.

- The Dems have attempted to rewrite history by letting leftist mobs tear down statues, renaming famous institutions and brands, etc.

- The Dems have used cancel culture to censor the free expression of ideas and impose their progressive ideals on academia, corporate America, the media, the entertainment industry, etc.

- The Dems have shoved racism down Americans’ throats practically everywhere, especially teaching white people to self-loathe and despise their race’s heritage and accomplishments.

- The Dems in the entertainment industry have force-fed us feminism and misandry in countless films, TV shows, and ads, emasculating the men they portray and attacking the traditional notion of the nuclear family and relationships between strong, smart men and graceful, feminine women.

Those are just a few off the top of my head. You get the idea.