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Jaminet supports Intermittent Fasting, but it's not required. He believes there is evidence that some people can benefit from it.Benko wrote: Is the 8 hour feeding window this diet, or is MG doing intermittent fasting? (or is it part of MG's calorie restriction?)
It is part of the PHD diet/book. The 8-hour eating window is actually an alternative to calorie restriction or daily intermittent fasting. It lets your body engage in autophagy, resensitivity and other cleanup/repair work for a full 16 hours. For the majority of people, an 8-hour eating window is a lot more practical than calorie restriction or daily intermittent fasting. When I started strength training once a week last year, I used to eat low carb meals every 4 hours (3 meals) and was actually hungry, but I must have adapted despite my workload increasing.Benko wrote: Is the 8 hour feeding window this diet, or is MG doing intermittent fasting? (or is it part of MG's calorie restriction?)
I paid more attention to my water intake and actually, I'm drinking less water because I'm just not as thirsty. Its as hard for me to drink water if I'm not thristy as it is to eat a food if I'm not hungry. But for sure, I was always hyper-thirsty on zero/low carb that I would worry now and then I was developing diabetes. Then again, it's the middle of winter so who knows...Gumby wrote: Sounds like you are drinking more water than the typical person on PHD. I was under the impression that high water consumption is a good idea for Very Low Carb or Zero Carb dieting. I wonder if you can now drink less water and feel less bloated now that you aren't VLC.
I'm not that confident. I suspect that whatever infection I had that the glucose in rice was feeding, is now gone, unless it was brown rice toxins (hard to know if it is white or brown when something says "rich starch"). I'm still sensitive to tomato/tomato sauce and non-raw cheese.MachineGhost wrote: Your gut is already healing. Well done.
I think I read somewhere the other day that the HPA axis being dysfunctional is directly related to insufficient "safe" carbohydrate intake. Carbs blunts cortisol.Benko wrote: FYI: going long hours without food e.g. IF is a REALLY bad idea for anyone with adrenal issues.
But, I completely agree with Benko that it's not for everyone. There are definitely reports of people having terrible reactions to IF — particularly women for some reason.Paul Jaminet wrote: Centenarians live to 100; “supercentenarians”? live to 110. It is a much more selective club...Supercentenarian diets come in two basic flavors:
1) Calorie-restriction and intermittent fasting.
2) High (saturated and monounsaturated) fat low-carb diets.
Source: Paul Jaminet: What Makes a Supercentenarian
Time will tell. Any time you reduce a toxin load and starve out bad flora your gut will heal a bit. It takes time, but what you are saying is already a very good sign.MachineGhost wrote:I'm not that confident.Gumby wrote: Your gut is already healing. Well done.
Intermittent fasting is an interesting idea and there are many different ways of doing it (I'm speaking strictly of the timing of when and for how long you get to eat and how long the fasting periods are). It might be something for people who want to lose weight (and those who want to lose weight and work out). People who can not do well with long periods without eating would not do well on IF. People who have done bad things to their adrenals e.g. from insufficeint sleep, would be doing themselves a really bad thing by trying IF.Gumby wrote: . There are definitely reports of people having terrible reactions to IF — particularly women for some reason.
Seth Roberts does...Benko wrote:This strikes me as rubbish. Does he present any evidence for this?2. "Jaminet believes that this enhances the circadian rhythm as all food is eaten/digested during daylight hours "
The toxins don't "feed" the bad gut flora. The toxins irritate the lining of the gut. However, grains can certainly "feed" bad gut flora. But, then again, safe starches can also feed bad bacteria as well. The whole purpose of the Select Carbohydrate Diet (and the GAPS diet, for that matter) is to starve out bad gut flora by reducing certain carbs (such as grains and starches) so that bad gut flora cannot thrive.Benko wrote:3. "Any time you reduce a toxin load and starve out bad flora"
The "toxins" in nuts and grains "feed" "bad" gut flora?
The problem is that the GAPS diet and the SCD diet are very restrictive and difficult to follow. But, they work by starving out the bad bacteria and rely on probiotics to replace bad gut flora with good gut flora.Chris Kresser wrote: Now, when you look at carbohydrate, eventually it gets broken down into the monosaccharides, like glucose and fructose, which are then absorbed and utilized—well, glucose is, at least. Fructose is shunted to the liver, where the liver tries to get rid of it, because it kind of treats it as a toxin, but glucose just passes right through the intestinal barrier, goes into the bloodstream, and is rapidly taken up by cells.
But in order to break down the carbohydrates we eat into those single monosaccharides, there’s a digestive process that needs to happen. And the longer chains are of those sugars, the more difficult they are to break down. And when someone has a compromised gut barrier, or has intestinal dysbiosis—which they tend to go hand in hand—they have difficulty breaking down those longer chain sugars, which are the disaccharides and polysaccharides. And then those sugars linger around in the gut, where they provide food for pathogenic bacteria that feed on them, and proliferate, and cause further dysbiosis and further leaky gut.
So the idea is to remove these disaccharides and polysaccharides so that you’re basically starving the pathogenic gut flora and kind of rebalancing the internal environment and allowing the gut lining to heal. So when I’m saying polysaccharides, I’m talking about starch. Like, the safe starches that I’m generally in favor of, like sweet potatoes and yams and taro, and all this stuff, but also all grains, including white rice. And then the disaccharides would be things like milk sugar.
Source: http://chriskresser.com/the-healthy-ske ... -episode-5
I'm thinking its more that if the bad gut flora crowds out the good gut flora, the good gut flora does not act to reduce the permeability of the leaky gut. I've tried lots of probitiocs over the years and heve never seen a darn difference in food sensitivites other than less gas when that was an issue once. So I suspect food toxins act more directly on the gut, not the flora.Benko wrote: 3. "Any time you reduce a toxin load and starve out bad flora"
The "toxins" in nuts and grains "feed" "bad" gut flora?
I agree. Though, I think there are some theories that poking holes in the gut (with toxins or grains or whatever) give bad gut flora a place to hide out in — and make them more difficult to remove. I sort of assume that reducing toxins would lead to less permeability and possibly less places for bad gut flora to hide out in.MachineGhost wrote:I'm thinking its more that if the bad gut flora crowds out the good gut flora, the good gut flora does not act to reduce the permeability of the leaky gut. I've tried lots of probitiocs over the years and heve never seen a darn difference in food sensitivites other than less gas when that was an issue once. So I suspect food toxins act more directly on the gut, not the flora.Benko wrote: 3. "Any time you reduce a toxin load and starve out bad flora"
The "toxins" in nuts and grains "feed" "bad" gut flora?
I do all three at once. 120, here I come!!!Gumby wrote: 1) Calorie-restriction and intermittent fasting.
2) High (saturated and monounsaturated) fat low-carb diets.
I forgot about that. WAPF has been trying to fight it.MachineGhost wrote: Turns out that "raw" almonds are gassed with propylene oxide (PPO) -- a "probable human carcinogen" according to the EPA. Wonderful.
It's not simply about high protein/organ intake — there's a bit more to it than that. Benko was right about the cherries.moda0306 wrote: I heard that organs worsen gout, so that's my excuse for not eating awful liver and the like, because back in my 3-a-day diet pop days I had bad gout.
If I'm going to gout flare, it's going to be because of beer, not liver!!
See Chapter 42 in the PHD. It's just about all the benefits that come with keeping your body on a good schedule.Benko wrote: I don't even know what the words "enhances circadian rhythm mean"
[/align]You should leave a comment/question on his blog. He makes a point to personally answer nearly every one.MachineGhost wrote:The inconsistency is annoying.
