Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:51 am
Oh God that's too good!Simonjester wrote: https://babylonbee.com/news/merriam-web ... upposed-to
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Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:17 pm
So is this supposed to represent an achievement in terms of "social justice?" Are we supposed to celebrate the fact that the downtrodden have managed to make the same corrupt (and illegal) financial machinations work for them, too?
Equally corrupt.
Equally unprincipled.
Equally despicable.
Equally corrupt.
Equally unprincipled.
Equally despicable.
Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:25 pm
Please expand on what "this" is. Thanks. I want to be sure you have a clear handle on it, and if you do, then maybe I don't.Maddy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:17 pm So is this supposed to represent an achievement in terms of "social justice?" Are we supposed to celebrate the fact that the downtrodden have managed to make the same corrupt (and illegal) financial machinations work for them, too?
Equally corrupt.
Equally unprincipled.
Equally despicable.
Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:27 pm
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Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:28 pm
There's rumblings in the subreddit about potentially making SLV the next short squeeze target. A coordinated SLV effort could be truly disruptive as there simply isn't enough physical metal to cover all of the paper trades in the market.
It looks like the "System" is ready to start implementing guardrails to limit this type of behaviour though.
It looks like the "System" is ready to start implementing guardrails to limit this type of behaviour though.
Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:29 pm
What is the corrupt or illegal thing that the redditors are doing? They're buying a stock they like and holding it. That's what you're supposed to do, isn't it?Maddy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:17 pm So is this supposed to represent an achievement in terms of "social justice?" Are we supposed to celebrate the fact that the downtrodden have managed to make the same corrupt (and illegal) financial machinations work for them, too?
Equally corrupt.
Equally unprincipled.
Equally despicable.
The hedge funds were betting against the stock. This is borrowing GME shares with a promise to give them back later, immediately selling them, and planning to buy them back when needed at hopefully a lower price. This is much more of a "manipulation" than buy and hold.
These funds had gotten so greedy that they had gone SO short that it generated a strong buy case: all these funds have to buy the stock back in order to return what they had borrowed, so a lot of people going long on it forces them to buy back at high prices.
That's the game the funds chose to play. They played it very badly. If they had played it successfully and had driven Gamestop out of business, they'd pocket their money and nobody would think twice. Now they're crying foul. Sorry, they lost fair & square.
Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:34 pm
Maybe they are in communication with the Hunt brothers.Smith1776 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:28 pm There's rumblings in the subreddit about potentially making SLV the next short squeeze target. A coordinated SLV effort could be truly disruptive as there simply isn't enough physical metal to cover all of the paper trades in the market.
It looks like the "System" is ready to start implementing guardrails to limit this type of behaviour though.
Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:34 pm
Is anyone else seeing requests to the WSB subreddit start to timeout?
Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:46 pm
Nvm working for me again.
Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:52 pm
What would a principled stand against the financial "system" look like?Xan wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:29 pmWhat is the corrupt or illegal thing that the redditors are doing? They're buying a stock they like and holding it. That's what you're supposed to do, isn't it?Maddy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:17 pm So is this supposed to represent an achievement in terms of "social justice?" Are we supposed to celebrate the fact that the downtrodden have managed to make the same corrupt (and illegal) financial machinations work for them, too?
Equally corrupt.
Equally unprincipled.
Equally despicable.
The hedge funds were betting against the stock. This is borrowing GME shares with a promise to give them back later, immediately selling them, and planning to buy them back when needed at hopefully a lower price. This is much more of a "manipulation" than buy and hold.
These funds had gotten so greedy that they had gone SO short that it generated a strong buy case: all these funds have to buy the stock back in order to return what they had borrowed, so a lot of people going long on it forces them to buy back at high prices.
That's the game the funds chose to play. They played it very badly. If they had played it successfully and had driven Gamestop out of business, they'd pocket their money and nobody would think twice. Now they're crying foul. Sorry, they lost fair & square.
Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:08 pm
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Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:08 pm
My previous joking aside, I just want to mention the equanimity of the PP investor:
"GME stock has skyrocketed! Get onboard before it's too late!"
"Meh, I already own it in my index fund."
"GME stock has tanked!! Oh noes!!"
"Meh, it's such a small portion of my index fund it doesn't matter."
"GME stock has skyrocketed! Get onboard before it's too late!"
"Meh, I already own it in my index fund."
"GME stock has tanked!! Oh noes!!"
"Meh, it's such a small portion of my index fund it doesn't matter."
Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:13 pm
Hope you are right, my PP has 5% silver!Smith1776 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:28 pm There's rumblings in the subreddit about potentially making SLV the next short squeeze target. A coordinated SLV effort could be truly disruptive as there simply isn't enough physical metal to cover all of the paper trades in the market.
It looks like the "System" is ready to start implementing guardrails to limit this type of behaviour though.
Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:35 pm
If this exposes the entire system as somewhat rigged in favor of the wealthy or elite, why should I have confidence in markets, even as a PP investor? “This” meaning every broker shutting off access to purchase these stocks to limit the losses of the shorts.
Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:44 pm
The pop seems like shorts covering...cornering this internationally traded commodity going to be a lot bigger undertaking than a stock with 140% short interest. I think they pass for other targets....but who knows!Cortopassi wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:13 pmHope you are right, my PP has 5% silver!Smith1776 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:28 pm There's rumblings in the subreddit about potentially making SLV the next short squeeze target. A coordinated SLV effort could be truly disruptive as there simply isn't enough physical metal to cover all of the paper trades in the market.
It looks like the "System" is ready to start implementing guardrails to limit this type of behaviour though.
Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:47 pm
Politicians on the right and left (AOC, Ted Cruz, etc.) are agreeing and retweeting each other that Robinhood shutting down GME trading was wrong. At least one class-action suit has been filed already.
Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:56 pm
When I heard that Robinhood has no cost trading, I figured they have to be skimming something off the spreads, somehow. It will be interesting to find out.
Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:05 pm
If I were king, Robinhood is toast. Allowing to sell, but not buy, yet other platforms, like those available to hedge fund people and seasoned traders still allowing buying should be 100% illegal.
Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:05 pm
We may have just lucked into the unifying rallying cry we all needed after the election.
Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:07 pm
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Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:08 pm
Cost of litigation probably a lot less than extracting oneself from a GME moon landing.
Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:09 pm
The first item means they are paid for order flow. That's about what I thought, and I probably characterized it harshly as skimming. Or is that potayto, potahto?pp4me wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:07 pmhttps://robinhood.com/us/en/support/art ... kes-money/I Shrugged wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:56 pm When I heard that Robinhood has no cost trading, I figured they have to be skimming something off the spreads, somehow. It will be interesting to find out.
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Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:16 pm
I don't think robinhood does the skimming....they sell orders to citron like entities who do the skimming AFAIKI Shrugged wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:09 pmThe first item means they are paid for order flow. That's about what I thought, and I probably characterized it harshly as skimming. Or is that potayto, potahto?pp4me wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:07 pmhttps://robinhood.com/us/en/support/art ... kes-money/I Shrugged wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:56 pm When I heard that Robinhood has no cost trading, I figured they have to be skimming something off the spreads, somehow. It will be interesting to find out.
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Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:16 pm
All brokers went to zero fees shortly after that. So this is how everyone makes money now.I Shrugged wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:09 pmThe first item means they are paid for order flow. That's about what I thought, and I probably characterized it harshly as skimming. Or is that potayto, potahto?pp4me wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:07 pmhttps://robinhood.com/us/en/support/art ... kes-money/I Shrugged wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:56 pm When I heard that Robinhood has no cost trading, I figured they have to be skimming something off the spreads, somehow. It will be interesting to find out.
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Re: GME
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:20 pm
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