Trump has Covid-19

[doodle]

Listen to the words out of tillersons own mouth sans media filter. Listen to the dozens of people that have worked in his cabinet. Listen to anyone but the man who has lied nonstop for four years.



https://youtu.be/r6Rc68FXk-E

[glennds]

All this activity in the last hour! Is it all from the the mind of a manic-depressive?

Vinny

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Dexamethasone induced psychosis.

Settle into your seat in the main cabin, while the pilot is tripping on a mind altering anti inflammatory drug.

[Mountaineer]

"Bored and eager to appear healthy"

Appear?

Vinny


Trump hopes for Monday discharge as Americans wonder about his health


https://ktvz.com/politics/2020/10/05/tr ... is-health/

I think bored. As an example for us, look at all the posting we have been doing recently. doodle, vinny, tech, corto, tomfoolery and I have posted almost as much at President Trump, and makes almost as much sense.

[Mountaineer]

Trump isn't hitler..largely because he is constrained by laws and institutions of our country. Rex Tillerson (who knows the man a bit better than any of you) explained how exasperating it was to have to hold the man's hand and explain to him constantly like he was a six year old that the things he was trying to do were illegal. The man has mentioned extending his term, called into question peaceful transition, used tear gas against peaceful protestors, time and again whipped up public sentiment to pitch. Look at his latest tweets in all caps for crying out loud. Can certainly imagine him shouting those from the steps of the Reichstag. My family is all from Austria and Germany....a lot of them were nazis, they know what a nazi looks like. No surprise, Trump reminds them of the nazis.

A bit of nit picking, but I don't think President Trump ordered the police to use tear gas, nor was it used.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/02 ... ump-929230

So, what else has the media reported incorrectly? TDS Stage 4 can make one delusional.

[glennds]

The dude is a marketing genius. He sent a hundred pizzas out to the crowd supporting him outside Walter Reed.

You may not be that far off. I'll take it a step further and say it may be more than marketing genius, possibly outright wizardry.

Think about it. In last week's debate he was able to make theater out of mocking his opponent for wearing a mask and observing Covid precautions. Then 48-72 hours later he himself ends up in hospital with Covid presumably from lack of precautions at an event(s) he hosted, and his supporters see no issues with his judgment. Tech points out it might even gain him support.

The ability to pull that off is Harry Potter level sorcery.
Any of the rest of us would be loaded onto the Buffoon Express and sent on a one way trip. But for Trump it is further evidence that he is a prodigy beyond mortal comprehension.

[yankees60]

The dude is a marketing genius. He sent a hundred pizzas out to the crowd supporting him outside Walter Reed.

You may not be that far off. I'll take it a step further and say it may be more than marketing genius, possibly outright wizardry.

Think about it. In last week's debate he was able to make theater out of mocking his opponent for wearing a mask and observing Covid precautions. Then 48-72 hours later he himself ends up in hospital with Covid presumably from lack of precautions at an event(s) he hosted, and his supporters see no issues with his judgment. Tech points out it might even gain him support.

The ability to pull that off is Harry Potter level sorcery.
Any of the rest of us would be loaded onto the Buffoon Express and sent on a one way trip. But for Trump it is further evidence that he is a prodigy beyond mortal comprehension.

And to which I say.........

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vinny

[glennds]

Trump isn't hitler..largely because he is constrained by laws and institutions of our country. Rex Tillerson (who knows the man a bit better than any of you) explained how exasperating it was to have to hold the man's hand and explain to him constantly like he was a six year old that the things he was trying to do were illegal. The man has mentioned extending his term, called into question peaceful transition, used tear gas against peaceful protestors, time and again whipped up public sentiment to pitch. Look at his latest tweets in all caps for crying out loud. Can certainly imagine him shouting those from the steps of the Reichstag. My family is all from Austria and Germany....a lot of them were nazis, they know what a nazi looks like. No surprise, Trump reminds them of the nazis.

A bit of nit picking, but I don't think President Trump ordered the police to use tear gas, nor was it used.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/02 ... ump-929230

So, what else has the media reported incorrectly? TDS Stage 4 can make one delusional.

You're right. I saw an interview with William Barr on Face the Nation (I watch it for Margaret Brennan regardless of what they are discussing, never a disappointment).
Barr objected to the allegation that tear gas was used. He confirmed that it was only smoke canisters, pepper balls, and maybe some other unspecified non-lethal crowd control tools).

[doodle]

The dude is a marketing genius. He sent a hundred pizzas out to the crowd supporting him outside Walter Reed.

You may not be that far off. I'll take it a step further and say it may be more than marketing genius, possibly outright wizardry.

Think about it. In last week's debate he was able to make theater out of mocking his opponent for wearing a mask and observing Covid precautions. Then 48-72 hours later he himself ends up in hospital with Covid presumably from lack of precautions at an event(s) he hosted, and his supporters see no issues with his judgment. Tech points out it might even gain him support.

The ability to pull that off is Harry Potter level sorcery.
Any of the rest of us would be loaded onto the Buffoon Express and sent on a one way trip. But for Trump it is further evidence that he is a prodigy beyond mortal comprehension.

Exactly. In the face of such magic, resistance is futile!

Is the magician talented, or is the crowd just dimwitted?

[glennds]

The dude is a marketing genius. He sent a hundred pizzas out to the crowd supporting him outside Walter Reed.

You may not be that far off. I'll take it a step further and say it may be more than marketing genius, possibly outright wizardry.

Think about it. In last week's debate he was able to make theater out of mocking his opponent for wearing a mask and observing Covid precautions. Then 48-72 hours later he himself ends up in hospital with Covid presumably from lack of precautions at an event(s) he hosted, and his supporters see no issues with his judgment. Tech points out it might even gain him support.

The ability to pull that off is Harry Potter level sorcery.
Any of the rest of us would be loaded onto the Buffoon Express and sent on a one way trip. But for Trump it is further evidence that he is a prodigy beyond mortal comprehension.

Exactly. In the face of such magic, resistance is futile!

Just watch. The radical, Marxist, Nihilist, Fascist, Maladroit, Pendeja Left are licking their chops and twisting their mustaches, waiting for Trump's demise in a riptide whirlpool of hypocrisy, recklessness and incompetence.

But just you wait. After the invocation of the Dumbledore spell, it will be revealed that in reality he made a heroic personal sacrifice for the nation in pursuit of victory over the Chinese virus. And prevailed, making the trip back to present day from a Dexamethasone induced coma, bearing the key to neutralizing the virus, and to the utter bewilderment of the scientists. The formula for the anti-virus will be written on a piece of paper that otherwise looks blank to mortals who initially mock it, but eventually become woke. We will have been witness to personal heroism the likes of which has not been seen since Alexander the Great. In fact, the entire world will benefit. Nobel Prize anyone?

And when the spell is revealed, the Democrats' faces will melt (ironically) like the Nazis in the first Raiders of the Lost Ark and we will never see them nor their NIckelback albums ever again. And the Dow will break 40,000. And we will have 1000 years of liberty. The framers of the Constitution will look down smiling, and their slaves will dance in celebration. The base metal known as Covid will have been turned to gold. And with salvation having been secured, He will ascend the escalator back to Asgard.

[Cortopassi]

I was exposed to a coworker on Thursday who got tested positive on Fri after experiencing symptoms.

Was able to snag a rapid test this morning, tested negative.

If anyone has had to go through this, it is anxiety producing, more for the searching for testing, most of which is completely booked, and ones that aren't are standard 4-7 days before results. To get the rapid test, I had to be on the clinic's website at 12AM, like freaking Ticketmaster, and quickly get a spot (8:15 this morning). After the two minutes it took to register, the next open spot was already 4PM.
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Back to Trump -- imagine if you will, a campaign ad, by Biden, showing Trump waving from the SUV with the secret service guys, for a measly 6 second drive by of his supporters. Next shows some clips of multiple people dying of Covid ALONE because family was not allowed in the room. At minimum, he caused 14 day quarantines for the two agents. What a douche.

[Tortoise]

Back to Trump -- imagine if you will, a campaign ad, by Biden, showing Trump waving from the SUV with the secret service guys, for a measly 6 second drive by of his supporters. Next shows some clips of multiple people dying of Covid ALONE because family was not allowed in the room. At minimum, he caused 14 day quarantines for the two agents. What a douche.

I agree, the public health official who originally recommended a 14-day quarantine for young, healthy people who may have been exposed to the sniffles is indeed a douche.

[Tyler]

At minimum, he caused 14 day quarantines for the two agents. What a douche.

Why do you believe the agents in the car were not already assigned to the president's hospital detail before the car ride? What do you think they do all day?

[Cortopassi]

At minimum, he caused 14 day quarantines for the two agents. What a douche.

At my age and health, which is likely similar to that of the median secret service agent, my covid death rate is close to 0.001%

I either already got covid and beat it without any symptoms, or I will get covid and beat it with zero to mild symptoms.

There’s no chance I did not get exposed to covid or will not get exposed at some point.

If my boss wanted to expose me to low dose of covid by wearing a mask around me as I wear a mask in a custom car with what is probably a $500k custom ventilation and air purification system, and then give me 2 weeks of paid vacation, then he is not being a douche, I would say Christmas came early.

How about all of the doctors and nurses taking care of Trump or taking care of any covid patient? Do they have to quarantine for 14 days after? Have bedsides nurses around the country been quarantining for 8 months?

I work in healthcare and my experience is 30%+ of patients admitted to hospitals now are covid positive. They might be there for something else, but also have covid. And the medical staff doesn’t even have N95s, they are using surgical masks which provide virtually zero protection to themselves.

Hospitals generally have only a few true isolation rooms with negative pressure airflow. Maybe 1% of the beds in the hospital. But 30%+ have covid.

Are all of the patients going to the hospital also douches for exposing hospital employees to covid at their job?

I understand they will need to quarantine for 14 days. Is that correct or not? If not, my bad. I assume doctors/nursed in full PPE are excluded.

If yes, whether you think that is right or wrong is immaterial. For his photo op, he has messed with two families. Possibly kids who cannot hug their Dad for 14 days. An agent who has a toddler he can't tuck into bed. An agent who has sick parents he can't visit, etc.

Trump thinks of NO ONE but himself.

Tyler: Could be, I am speculating, yes. If they are already quarantined because of that, I guess this would just extend it.

This is my source: https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/05/politics ... index.html

Yes, I know, CNN.

[glennds]

At minimum, he caused 14 day quarantines for the two agents. What a douche.

Why do you believe the agents in the car were not already assigned to the president's hospital detail before the car ride? What do you think they do all day?

Typical hospital procedure would be that a patient like this would be in a negative pressure room and the security detail would be posted outside. The negative pressure restricts the airborne virus inside the room, even when the door is opened. There will be a little intermediate vestibule connecting the hallway door to the room and that vestibule is where caregivers glove, gown, don and doff PPE and wash hands. These procedures are called universal precautions.

From an infection control procedural standpoint, the car ride was absurd, needlessly dangerous for the other car occupants, but a good photo op. I am 100% sure that it absolutely violated the hospital's policies and procedures. But again, a good photo op.

[Cortopassi]

Just to continue MY reasoning.

If I came back positive this morning, I would need to stay away from my family for at least 10-14 days. I would need to notify the high school band director, and quite possibly given the timeline and uniform fittings we did with kids last week, the entire band program would maybe have needed to be shut down for 14 days.

My basement school for my daughter, the other two girls aren't here today as a precaution, could have been 14 days and needing testing as well if I was positive.

The shit that I would cause with a positive test is tremendous, if I follow the rules.

Trump has little to no rules that need to be followed. No one is allowed to say no to him without massive repercussions.

It is another "one set of rules for thee, another for me" situation.

[Tyler]

Typical hospital procedure would be that a patient like this would be in a negative pressure room and the security detail would be posted outside. The negative pressure restricts the airborne virus inside the room, even when the door is opened. There will be a little intermediate vestibule connecting the hallway door to the room and that vestibule is where caregivers glove, gown, don and doff PPE and wash hands. These procedures are called universal precautions.

That's nice and all, but Trump's unique setup in Walter Reed is not "typical hospital procedure" from the start.

FWIW, I have a relative who did a stint in a presidential security detail. It's not a job you volunteer for. He was handpicked out of the military for the position, and I have no doubt that having nothing to distract from his commitment was part of the selection criteria. I don't pretend to be an expert in SS procedure (obviously he couldn't elaborate), but from what I do know I find the idea that they'd ever allow the president to be isolated out of their physical control very hard to believe.

[Cortopassi]

Thanks, I have a better understanding now.

But, it still sticks in my craw that we all have to follow rules that he, and his entourage, generally do not.

Hopefully it is not a serious case for him, but it is poetic justice.

I am convinced if he gets to be able to be out on the trail before the election, he’ll figure out how to spin it to a positive, at least with his supporters.

And I did mention I would talk with my mom about Trump. 1) She feels sorry for him. Ok, I gave her that. 2) Followed that up with saying he didn’t deserve this. That one got me yelling a little bit...

[Tortoise]

But, it still sticks in my craw that we all have to follow rules that he, and his entourage, generally do not.

Trump isn't the one who made those Cooties-19 rules and is making you follow them. Your governor, mayor, school board, and local health officials are. So maybe you should consider directing your ire at them instead of at Trump?

[Mountaineer]

I was exposed to a coworker on Thursday who got tested positive on Fri after experiencing symptoms.

Was able to snag a rapid test this morning, tested negative.

If anyone has had to go through this, it is anxiety producing, more for the searching for testing, most of which is completely booked, and ones that aren't are standard 4-7 days before results. To get the rapid test, I had to be on the clinic's website at 12AM, like freaking Ticketmaster, and quickly get a spot (8:15 this morning). After the two minutes it took to register, the next open spot was already 4PM.
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Corto, really sorry to hear of your exposure, don't want this to be a downer, but my daughter is a nurse and works assessing Covid patients, etc. According to their medical info, you likely would not test positive for 5 to 7 days after exposure. If you choose to believe that, you may wish to get tested again toward the end of this week. Best wishes.

My wife and I had a similar "probable exposure" a few months ago. We self-quarantined, got a saliva test at a drive-through site about a week later (took about 10 minutes from driving in to driving out, did not have to leave our vehicle), results came back negative. Results came the next day after the test.

[doodle]

No disrepect because you're going off what you see in the media, but this comment reminds me of gun control threads. Where it's a bunch of virgins talking about sex.

You had KBG (who obviously has a lot more experience with weapons and military than you do) unwind almost every argument you made with regards to that topic in military 2A thread. You Trumpsters are like whack a mole.

[Cortopassi]

I was exposed to a coworker on Thursday who got tested positive on Fri after experiencing symptoms.

Was able to snag a rapid test this morning, tested negative.

If anyone has had to go through this, it is anxiety producing, more for the searching for testing, most of which is completely booked, and ones that aren't are standard 4-7 days before results. To get the rapid test, I had to be on the clinic's website at 12AM, like freaking Ticketmaster, and quickly get a spot (8:15 this morning). After the two minutes it took to register, the next open spot was already 4PM.
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Corto, really sorry to hear of your exposure, don't want this to be a downer, but my daughter is a nurse and works assessing Covid patients, etc. According to their medical info, you likely would not test positive for 5 to 7 days after exposure. If you choose to believe that, you may wish to get tested again toward the end of this week. Best wishes.

My wife and I had a similar "probable exposure" a few months ago. We self-quarantined, got a saliva test at a drive-through site about a week later (took about 10 minutes from driving in to driving out, did not have to leave our vehicle), results came back negative. Results came the next day after the test.

Thanks. I asked that specific question, and I don't know if it is the test itself driving, or some understanding that's different now, but I was told 3-5 days is currently what is needed, and I was at 4 and the doc said that was perfect.

[Cortopassi]

But, it still sticks in my craw that we all have to follow rules that he, and his entourage, generally do not.

Trump isn't the one who made those Cooties-19 rules and is making you follow them. Your governor, mayor, school board, and local health officials are. So maybe you should consider directing your ire at them instead of at Trump?

You are free to dispute this, but he has been at multiple events in multiple states where they simply aren't following the local rules.

If there's a Trumpistan state where there aren't any of these limitations, it is within that state's rights, sure. But last I checked, you're supposed to follow the rules of the state or site you are in, whether you think they are a crock or not. Cleveland Clinic rules, for example at the debates.

And a lot of these rules are driven by federal government entities too.

[Cortopassi]

I was exposed to a coworker on Thursday who got tested positive on Fri after experiencing symptoms.

Was able to snag a rapid test this morning, tested negative.

If anyone has had to go through this, it is anxiety producing, more for the searching for testing, most of which is completely booked, and ones that aren't are standard 4-7 days before results. To get the rapid test, I had to be on the clinic's website at 12AM, like freaking Ticketmaster, and quickly get a spot (8:15 this morning). After the two minutes it took to register, the next open spot was already 4PM.
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Corto, really sorry to hear of your exposure, don't want this to be a downer, but my daughter is a nurse and works assessing Covid patients, etc. According to their medical info, you likely would not test positive for 5 to 7 days after exposure. If you choose to believe that, you may wish to get tested again toward the end of this week. Best wishes.

My wife and I had a similar "probable exposure" a few months ago. We self-quarantined, got a saliva test at a drive-through site about a week later (took about 10 minutes from driving in to driving out, did not have to leave our vehicle), results came back negative. Results came the next day after the test.

Thanks. I asked that specific question, and I don't know if it is the test itself driving, or some understanding that's different now, but I was told 3-5 days is currently what is needed, and I was at 4 and the doc said that was perfect.

Following up further on this -- all the Rose garden guests were given a rapid test, tested negative, and told they could remove masks.

Barring any position on masks, the whole testing concept has a huge multi-day hole in it then, right?

[Cortopassi]

But, it still sticks in my craw that we all have to follow rules that he, and his entourage, generally do not.

Trump isn't the one who made those Cooties-19 rules and is making you follow them. Your governor, mayor, school board, and local health officials are. So maybe you should consider directing your ire at them instead of at Trump?

You are free to dispute this, but he has been at multiple events in multiple states where they simply aren't following the local rules.

If there's a Trumpistan state where there aren't any of these limitations, it is within that state's rights, sure. But last I checked, you're supposed to follow the rules of the state or site you are in, whether you think they are a crock or not. Cleveland Clinic rules, for example at the debates.

And a lot of these rules are driven by federal government entities too.

1. Everyone at his rallies is there voluntarily.
2. Most if not all of the Democrat states have exceptions for "peaceful protests". That's what his rallies are.

Any other questions?

Explain away the first family at the debate.

[doodle]

"Don't be afraid of Covid"

***Especially when your medical treatment is covered by the American taxpayer and you have 12 doctors at your disposal as well as isntant access to the latest and greatest treatments. Oh, and when you're discharged from hospital you return to your house equipped with world class medical facilities.

That is so elitist. I agree, don't let it dominate your life. But on the other hand this virus has killed 200k+ Americans and left a lot of others in dire medical situations. He's such a piece of shit.