Coronavirus General Discussion

[Kriegsspiel]

Gilead stock surges 15% after report says coronavirus drug trial shows encouraging early results.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/16/gilead- ... sults.html

WHAT????

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Is that the new PPE? It doesn't even cover their noses. Maybe those white face shields slide down and become transparent? That would be neat.

[yankees60]

Annnnd....

The drug that shows promise (Remdesivir) is one of the ones that Trump was touting.

Hydroxychloroquine Trial for Treating COVID-19 Disappoints

"The best available evidence does not support the use of hydroxychloroquine in COVID-19."

https://reason.com/2020/04/16/hydroxych ... sappoints/


Did Trump buy us any doses of Hydroxychloroquine?

Vinny

[Dieter]

My prediction is that when antibody tests become more widely available, we will be surprised to discover that many parts of the country and world have already achieved herd immunity (say, > 60% of people are immune).

In those places, it will appear as if the virus had spread largely unchecked through the population some months ago, so the next step will be for people to figure out how that could possibly have happened without the hospitals in those areas getting overrun. (E.g., maybe areas with higher numbers of hospital beds per capita handled their surge without much drama before anyone knew what Covid-19 was.)

Just a hunch, not based on any hard science.

How much evidence is there that it is a one and done?

How long does immunity last?

Only a singkr strain / does it apply to all strains?

I know that's a hope.
(Of mine and many)

[Tortoise]

How much evidence is there that it is a one and done?

Probably not much. But so far, it seems promising that at least we're not hearing about many people who got sick from the virus, recovered completely, then got sick from it again sometime after that. That's just anecdotal, but based on many thousands of cases so far. If it had happened, it almost certainly would have been all over the news.

There have been reports of "reinfections" in certain countries like South Korea and China, but from what I've seen, those are based only on test results and not on people actually getting sick multiple times. None of the tests are 100% accurate, so most or all of the apparent reinfections could be due to testing errors or artifacts.

[yankees60]

"Today the US surpassed deaths from the Korean War.

* American deaths in Korean War
(1950-1953):
33,686

* American death from the coronavirus (March 16-April 16):
34,529

(note: as of March 16, 88 Americans were dead)"

[yankees60]

CITI CIO SAYS MODELING SUGGESTS 'IT TAKES NINE QUARTERS' FOR ECONOMY TO GET BACK TO WHERE IT WAS BEFORE CORONAVIRUS

https://www.newsweek.com/citi-cio-says- ... 1587079568

[dualstow]

"Today the US surpassed deaths from the Korean War.

* American deaths in Korean War /(1950-1953): 33,686

I think American deaths total closer to 45,000. EDIT: (45K is dead + missing)

[yankees60]

WHO recommends limits on alcohol consumption during lockdowns

https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... ssion=true

[yankees60]

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[yankees60]

"Today the US surpassed deaths from the Korean War.

* American deaths in Korean War /(1950-1953): 33,686

I think American deaths total closer to 45,000

"In the three year Korean War, an estimated 3 million Koreans died, mostly civilian, and killed nearly 1 million Chinese troops. The US lost almost 34,000 service members and more than 105,000 were wounded.'

Vinny

[dualstow]

Yeah, the number I had is dead + missing. I was just rechecking it.

[yankees60]

Maryland police remind residents to wear pants to mailbox: 'This is your final warning'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 140750002/

[yankees60]

Yeah, the number I had is dead + missing. I was just rechecking it.

11,000 were missing?

"e. ^ Korean War: Note: gives Dead as 33,746 and Wounded as 103, 284 and MIA as 8,177. The American Battle Monuments Commission database for the Korean War reports that "The Department of Defense reports that 54,246 American service men and women lost their lives during the Korean War. This includes all losses worldwide."

Vinny

[yankees60]

Bridal shop owner, libertarian law firm sue Ohio Health Department Director Dr. Amy Acton over stay-at-home order

https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice ... order.html

[Mark Leavy]

Most cases aboard U.S. aircraft carrier are symptom-free

Here's an interesting result. An entire population is tested. Somewhat atypical, but interesting nonetheless.
Out of 4,800 sailors, there were 600 positive, (12.5%) majority asymptomatic.

The Navy’s testing of the entire 4,800-member crew of the aircraft carrier - which is about 94% complete - was an extraordinary move in a headline-grabbing case that has already led to the firing of the carrier’s captain and the resignation of the Navy’s top civilian official.

Roughly 60 percent of the over 600 sailors who tested positive so far have not shown symptoms of COVID-19, the potentially lethal respiratory disease caused by the coronavirus, the Navy says. The service did not speculate about how many might later develop symptoms or remain asymptomatic.

[yankees60]

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[Tyler]

Interesting table. Things can always change, but with the lowest number of cases and deaths per capita Texas is feeling relatively comfy right now.

[yankees60]

Interesting table. Things can always change, but with the lowest number of cases and deaths per capita Texas is feeling relatively comfy right now.

To what do you attribute that to?

I see that Texas is 26th in population density, so right in the middle.

Vinny

[Dieter]

California is doing well except in testing - damn that's bad.
(Looking especially at per-capita).

While Texas even better in deaths per capita; tests even worse than CA.

[yankees60]

Reported US coronavirus cases:

6 weeks ago: 332 cases
5 weeks ago: 2,204 cases
4 weeks ago: 18,763 cases
3 weeks ago: 101,242 cases
2 weeks ago: 277,953 cases
1 week ago: 501,301 cases
Right now: 701,131 cases

[yankees60]

"More Americans died of the Coronavirus yesterday than died in the entire Iraq War."

[yankees60]

"The DOW appears to have already gained half of what it lost due to the CCP virus. That's pretty quick."

[yankees60]

Lawmakers put banks on notice: Stop charging overdraft fees during the coronavirus pandemic

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/17/lawmake ... ter%7Cmain

[yankees60]

Coronavirus tracked: the latest figures as the pandemic spreads | Free to read
The FT analyses the scale of outbreaks and the number of deaths in countries around the world

https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

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[yankees60]

How does coronavirus kill? Clinicians trace a ferocious rampage through the body, from brain to toes

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04 ... brain-toes#