Gyroscopic Investing

Before paper was invented, or readily available, people used leaves, seashells, fur pelts and corn cobs. The ancient Greeks and Romans used small ceramic disks and also sponges on the ends of sticks, which were then plunged into a bucket of vinegar or salt water for the next person to use.

MangoMan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:27 am When I was a kid, my father used to regale us with stories from his days in the Greek army during WW2. There were repeated anecdotes about being lucky to find old newspaper or leaves to use as TP most days. The implication was that we were soft, spoiled American kids who had as much TP as we needed, and to quit using more than 2 squares per wipe.

flyingpylon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:59 am Slightly better than that but still sub-optimal, the TP you get with a military MRE (Meal, Ready to Eat) will train you well for times like these. The photo shows two packages but you only get one with each MRE.

Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:00 pm

flyingpylon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:59 am Slightly better than that but still sub-optimal, the TP you get with a military MRE (Meal, Ready to Eat) will train you well for times like these. The photo shows two packages but you only get one with each MRE.

That's more than enough when you're eating MREs

dualstow wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:38 pm I remember Willing in ‘The Mandibles’ enumerating a lot of those historical tools, like the vinegar sponges of Rome, and shitsticks for east Asian royalty. Michael Crichton mentions strips of linen in medieval Europe in ‘Timeline’, which sounds pretty luxurious.

In Moscow, I occasionally had to use newsprint. As you can imagine, the locals say that’s all it’s good for.

dualstow wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:42 pm Couldn’t do that here even if the numbers were favorable. It would cost to much to pre-clean the bills!

WiseOne wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:21 am Interesting article in the NY Times this morning:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/03/opin ... idets.html

The especially good part:

Before paper was invented, or readily available, people used leaves, seashells, fur pelts and corn cobs. The ancient Greeks and Romans used small ceramic disks and also sponges on the ends of sticks, which were then plunged into a bucket of vinegar or salt water for the next person to use.

Seashells...OUCH!!!!!

Leaves...let's just say that's familiar to every backpacker on the planet. When I was in Kenya and went to visit a local family, I got to use an outhouse that was basically a hole dug in the ground near a tree with thick, soft, wonderfully scented leaves. That's their toilet paper tree (I wish I knew the official name for it). Best TP alternative ever apart from a bidet.

dualstow wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:10 pm { gympie gympie }
Why does Australia have such poisonous flora and fauna?

How can I make this on topic- And,have you ever encountered a poisonous spider on your roll of TP?

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:46 pm While I was in Quicken doing some work I finally remembered to check when I'd last purchased toilet paper. I was almost certain it was at least a few years ago.

On 10/2/17 I bought 48 rolls for $23.36 (including sales tax).

Here is what I bought - https://smile.amazon.com/ANGEL-SOFT-Toi ... l_huc_item

Today on Amazon it has no price and says "Currently unavailable". I'll have to periodically start checking when it is available so I can put in another order.


Today I now have 10 rolls plus 1 just started. So round to 11.

At the rate at which I've been using those 48 rolls (about one every 25 days), these 11 should last me until the rest of 2020 without having to buy any more. Maybe even longer as I've just started to be conscious of how much I use and trying to now use the minimum.

Vinny

Mountaineer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:51 pm

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:46 pm While I was in Quicken doing some work I finally remembered to check when I'd last purchased toilet paper. I was almost certain it was at least a few years ago.

On 10/2/17 I bought 48 rolls for $23.36 (including sales tax).

Here is what I bought - https://smile.amazon.com/ANGEL-SOFT-Toi ... l_huc_item

Today on Amazon it has no price and says "Currently unavailable". I'll have to periodically start checking when it is available so I can put in another order.


Today I now have 10 rolls plus 1 just started. So round to 11.

At the rate at which I've been using those 48 rolls (about one every 25 days), these 11 should last me until the rest of 2020 without having to buy any more. Maybe even longer as I've just started to be conscious of how much I use and trying to now use the minimum.

Vinny

You definitely need to eat more fiber. The hospitals may not be ready to perform a hemorhoidectomy.

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:46 pm While I was in Quicken doing some work I finally remembered to check when I'd last purchased toilet paper. I was almost certain it was at least a few years ago.

On 10/2/17 I bought 48 rolls for $23.36 (including sales tax).

Here is what I bought - https://smile.amazon.com/ANGEL-SOFT-Toi ... l_huc_item

Today on Amazon it has no price and says "Currently unavailable". I'll have to periodically start checking when it is available so I can put in another order.


Today I now have 10 rolls plus 1 just started. So round to 11.

At the rate at which I've been using those 48 rolls (about one every 25 days), these 11 should last me until the rest of 2020 without having to buy any more. Maybe even longer as I've just started to be conscious of how much I use and trying to now use the minimum.

Vinny

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:56 pm

Mountaineer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:51 pm

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:46 pm While I was in Quicken doing some work I finally remembered to check when I'd last purchased toilet paper. I was almost certain it was at least a few years ago.

On 10/2/17 I bought 48 rolls for $23.36 (including sales tax).

Here is what I bought - https://smile.amazon.com/ANGEL-SOFT-Toi ... l_huc_item

Today on Amazon it has no price and says "Currently unavailable". I'll have to periodically start checking when it is available so I can put in another order.


Today I now have 10 rolls plus 1 just started. So round to 11.

At the rate at which I've been using those 48 rolls (about one every 25 days), these 11 should last me until the rest of 2020 without having to buy any more. Maybe even longer as I've just started to be conscious of how much I use and trying to now use the minimum.

Vinny

You definitely need to eat more fiber. The hospitals may not be ready to perform a hemorhoidectomy.

I'm about to eat a mixture of: carrots, beans, brussels sprouts, tomatoes, spinach, green peppers, cauliflower. All getting cooked together in the microwave as I type this. How is all of that for fiber? I have not bought any food in 19 days so I've run out of some things, like mushrooms, mustard greens, and broccoli.


Vinny

Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:57 pm Keep us updated.

Mountaineer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:17 pm

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:56 pm

Mountaineer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:51 pm

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:46 pm While I was in Quicken doing some work I finally remembered to check when I'd last purchased toilet paper. I was almost certain it was at least a few years ago.

On 10/2/17 I bought 48 rolls for $23.36 (including sales tax).

Here is what I bought - https://smile.amazon.com/ANGEL-SOFT-Toi ... l_huc_item

Today on Amazon it has no price and says "Currently unavailable". I'll have to periodically start checking when it is available so I can put in another order.


Today I now have 10 rolls plus 1 just started. So round to 11.

At the rate at which I've been using those 48 rolls (about one every 25 days), these 11 should last me until the rest of 2020 without having to buy any more. Maybe even longer as I've just started to be conscious of how much I use and trying to now use the minimum.

Vinny

You definitely need to eat more fiber. The hospitals may not be ready to perform a hemorhoidectomy.

I'm about to eat a mixture of: carrots, beans, brussels sprouts, tomatoes, spinach, green peppers, cauliflower. All getting cooked together in the microwave as I type this. How is all of that for fiber? I have not bought any food in 19 days so I've run out of some things, like mushrooms, mustard greens, and broccoli.


Vinny

I was commenting on apparent output rather than input.

dualstow wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:23 pm

Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:57 pm Keep us updated.

Note to Vinny: he’s being facetious. Please do NOT keep us updated.
When my parents told me they were “using toilet paper like it’s nobody’s business” some years ago I told them, “Guys, it *is* nobody’s business.”

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:27 pm

Mountaineer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:17 pm

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:56 pm

Mountaineer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:51 pm

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:46 pm While I was in Quicken doing some work I finally remembered to check when I'd last purchased toilet paper. I was almost certain it was at least a few years ago.

On 10/2/17 I bought 48 rolls for $23.36 (including sales tax).

Here is what I bought - https://smile.amazon.com/ANGEL-SOFT-Toi ... l_huc_item

Today on Amazon it has no price and says "Currently unavailable". I'll have to periodically start checking when it is available so I can put in another order.


Today I now have 10 rolls plus 1 just started. So round to 11.

At the rate at which I've been using those 48 rolls (about one every 25 days), these 11 should last me until the rest of 2020 without having to buy any more. Maybe even longer as I've just started to be conscious of how much I use and trying to now use the minimum.

Vinny

You definitely need to eat more fiber. The hospitals may not be ready to perform a hemorhoidectomy.

I'm about to eat a mixture of: carrots, beans, brussels sprouts, tomatoes, spinach, green peppers, cauliflower. All getting cooked together in the microwave as I type this. How is all of that for fiber? I have not bought any food in 19 days so I've run out of some things, like mushrooms, mustard greens, and broccoli.


Vinny

I was commenting on apparent output rather than input.

You did say...."eat more fiber"!

Vinny