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Vanguard Pivots from Bogle (Bloomberg)

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:00 am
by dualstow
I was going to put this in the Other §, but some opt out of that since it’s a free-for-all lounge.

Vanguard Stumbles In Pivot From Cult of Jack Bogle
For diehard fans of the company’s founder, what’s at stake is the very soul of the $8 trillion mutual-fund giant
Courting suspicion from traditionalists, Vanguard is pushing ever deeper into financial advice, known internally as “Engine No. 2” of growth. It’s giving wealthier clients and advisory customers the velvet-rope treatment, in contrast to Bogle’s everyman ethos. With scant notice, it’s quintupled the minimum balance required for one personalized service to $5 million.

Just this month, three investors filed a class-action lawsuit, saying changes to popular target-date funds saddled thousands of individual customers with “massive” tax bills, all for the benefit of big institutions.

“The ethics came from Jack Bogle, and I’m a little concerned they’re going in different directions,” said Allan Roth, founder of Colorado-based financial planning firm Wealth Logic, and a self-described Boglehead.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... re-brewing

Re: Vanguard Pivots from Bogle (Bloomberg)

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:41 pm
by boglerdude
Same will happen with Berkshire. CEO-types dont want to live a somewhat modest life. Winning is everything and dollars are the score

Re: Vanguard Pivots from Bogle (Bloomberg)

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:36 pm
by dualstow
Probably true. Everything gets corrupted eventually.

Re: Vanguard Pivots from Bogle (Bloomberg)

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:54 pm
by yankees60
Vanguard, however, is still the ONLY Investment company owned by all of us? Don't have to do things to keep their investors happy as all other investment companies need to do?

Re: Vanguard Pivots from Bogle (Bloomberg)

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:51 pm
by Kriegsspiel
dualstow wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:36 pm Probably true. Everything gets corrupted eventually.
Yup. On one hand, I don't care about the fleecing of high net worth investors. If they want to pay Vanguard to manage their money for them, and it doesn't affect me? Fine. But I suspect that that kind of thing will start (probably already has) populating Vanguard with people that I'd rather not work there, doing things that I don't want them to do.

Re: Vanguard Pivots from Bogle (Bloomberg)

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:02 pm
by boglerdude
Vanguard does not disclose the salaries of it's CEO or executive management

https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=348359

Re: Vanguard Pivots from Bogle (Bloomberg)

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:13 pm
by yankees60
Kriegsspiel wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:51 pm
dualstow wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:36 pm
Probably true. Everything gets corrupted eventually.


Yup. On one hand, I don't care about the fleecing of high net worth investors. If they want to pay Vanguard to manage their money for them, and it doesn't affect me? Fine. But I suspect that that kind of thing will start (probably already has) populating Vanguard with people that I'd rather not work there, doing things that I don't want them to do.


Yet is there any other investment company superior to them?

Re: Vanguard Pivots from Bogle (Bloomberg)

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:29 am
by dualstow
I like different features from different houses. Fidelity is not a co-op, but their website is so much better in so many ways. If i hadn’t been “born into” Vanguard, I might’ve gone with Fidelity.

Re: Vanguard Pivots from Bogle (Bloomberg)

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:24 pm
by Xan
I moved the discussion about donor-advised funds to a new thread:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=12567