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By 2025, 1 in 2 Children will be Autistic

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:21 pm
by MachineGhost
Oh, boy!  Looks like its not vaccines, sunscreens, older men, etc. -- its Monsanto's glyphosate toxicity.  Head for the hills!!!

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...especially in light of recent findings that the active ingredient glyphosate is found in the breast milk of American mothers at levels that are a dangerous 760 to 1600 times higher than allowable limits in European drinking water.

“In my view, the situation is almost beyond repair,”? Dr. Seneff said after her presentation. “We need to do something drastic.”?

http://themindunleashed.org/2014/10/mit ... -2025.html

Re: By 2025, 1 in 2 Children will be Autistic

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:25 pm
by Greg
Interesting stuff. I'd want to see more on this as the studies keep developing.

Re: By 2025, 1 in 2 Children will be Autistic

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:26 am
by Kriegsspiel
According to the first study I googled, 26% of the increase in autism cases is due to changing diagnoses from retardation to autism, extrapolating from California data between 1992 and 2005.

Re: By 2025, 1 in 2 Children will be Autistic

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:31 am
by Benko
And lipstick causes breast cancer (to pick another correlation that does not equal causation).

Re: By 2025, 1 in 2 Children will be Autistic

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:38 am
by MachineGhost
Kriegsspiel wrote: According to the first study I googled, 26% of the increase in autism cases is due to changing diagnoses from retardation to autism, extrapolating from California data between 1992 and 2005.
In her slides, better diagnosis is accounted for, so excluding all known factors, 46% of the cause of autism is unknown.  That doesn't include glyphosate, vaccines and sunscreens, though.  Older men only seem to account for 15% which is surprisingly small.

If autism really is a multi-factorial problem, we are truly doomed.  We can barely get consensus for one factor without a lot of acrimony, how the hell can we for multiple factors?

Still, I am pleased the evil Monsanto is finally on the ropes.  How are they going to whitewash this one?  The sheer hubris and arrogance they and their supporters have that you can manipulate nature at the genetic level without long-term consequences reminds me of the NeoCons...  oh wait, Rumsfeld used to work for Monsanto.  Figures!

Re: By 2025, 1 in 2 Children will be Autistic

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:57 am
by MachineGhost
Benko wrote: And lipstick causes breast cancer (to pick another correlation that does not equal causation).
Did you read the article instead of posting a snarky retort?  Glyphosate toxicity symptoms mimick autistic symptoms.  At what point will you hit yourself in the forehead with your hand? ;)

Don't forget the key takeaway here is it is the gut microbiota.  I suspect such a vanguard frontier of science will be Monsanto's ultimate undoing, ironically.

Re: By 2025, 1 in 2 Children will be Autistic

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:01 am
by Pointedstick
Glyphosate is bad, bad stuff. I'm not surprised. All the more reason to grow your own food...

Re: By 2025, 1 in 2 Children will be Autistic

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:01 pm
by dualstow
Never heard of glyphosate before. Looked it up...it's Roundup?! I used to use that all the time on my parents' driveway.

Re: By 2025, 1 in 2 Children will be Autistic

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:56 pm
by Pointedstick
On the driveway? Things were growing between the cracks, I hope?

There's a much more fun way to deal with weeds anyway.

[img width=500]http://img.thrfun.com/img/077/216/propa ... ner_s1.jpg[/img]

And for farmers:

[img width=500]http://www.organicnation.tv/storage/bur ... 5005752995[/img]

Re: By 2025, 1 in 2 Children will be Autistic

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:42 pm
by Tortoise
The bar graph in the OP would be much more meaningful and less prone to misinterpretation if the vertical axes were normalized. Specifically, instead of total number of autism cases it should be per capita, and instead of total amount of glyphosate it should be amount per acre of crops or something similar.

Re: By 2025, 1 in 2 Children will be Autistic

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:48 pm
by dualstow
Yes, PS, on the driveway. It's one of those stone square things with grass growing in between each square. Last time I did it, I pulled up the weeds by hand without spraying anything.

I would much rather use a torch!

Re: By 2025, 1 in 2 Children will be Autistic

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:15 am
by WiseOne
Autism incidence probably hasn't changed much - it's mainly due to changes in how developmentally delayed kids are evaluated/diagnosed:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... FA1.f01t03

In the Good Old Days, these kids were just labeled "retarded", put in special schools or institutions, and that was that.  Also note that there was no shortage of autism cases predating lots of things like the MMR, Roundup etc.  Also it's become sort of a "fashionable" diagnosis, like bipolar disorder in teenagers.

That said...I wouldn't use Roundup or any other pesticide in my yard!  Pull the weeds by hand or put tar in the cracks or something.  I read somewhere that pesticide use in suburbia is about 4x as intense as it is on farms, measured by amount per unit area.

Re: By 2025, 1 in 2 Children will be Autistic

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:41 pm
by MachineGhost
WiseOne wrote: In the Good Old Days, these kids were just labeled "retarded", put in special schools or institutions, and that was that.  Also note that there was no shortage of autism cases predating lots of things like the MMR, Roundup etc.  Also it's become sort of a "fashionable" diagnosis, like bipolar disorder in teenagers.
It definitely reminds me a bit of the 80's AHDH fad and putting young kids on highly addictive cocaine Ritalin, Adderall, etc.. that still occurs to this day as Medicaid covers and encourages it (i.e. black chlidren).  Really, I'm surprised there's not yet another single scam "miracle" pharmaceutical drug out already touted just for ASD.  Our whole medical history seems to be nothing more than Big Pharma trying to accrete diseases just to find a overexpensive patent drugs to sell to a niche market segment. 

Lately, it now costs at least $4 billion just to bring one drug to market via FDA approval.  Less than 1 in 10 human trials of drugs ever succeed.  And only .01% of 10,000 compounds that enter the pipeline ever reaches FDA approval; only 16% of those that reach clinical trials do.  Keep in mind this means a drug that can survive the process and be sold profitably to recoup all of the horrendous losses from all the losers; efficacy is of minor importance.  So if one ingredient cured cancer (say, the mushroom turkey tail), it won't make it unless it meets all the other criterias that really have nothing to do with the outcome that consumers want.