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				Russia Or China
				Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:57 pm
				by Reub
				Being that the Chinese markets were up 50% in 2014 while the Ruskies were down about the same which is the better investment going into a new year? Would you be the contrarian or the momentum afficiando? China or Russia? Which is it?
			 
			
					
				Re: Russia Or China
				Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:57 am
				by MachineGhost
				China.
I think Putin's looking for another Cold War.  It's all he has left to legitimize his sinking economy.
			 
			
					
				Re: Russia Or China
				Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:15 am
				by dualstow
				They say the sink in oil prices hurt Russia more than any sanctions, so it follows that a surge in prices could save Russia.
And, I keep reading articles about Germany turning eastward to Russia, away from its longtime allies.
Ugh, I woudn't invest in either country but I think I would go contrarian and not momentum in this case.
			 
			
					
				Re: Russia Or China
				Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:34 pm
				by goldfinger
				It is too early to buy Russia, even Mr. Putin said Russia economy will rebound in 2 years. 
I do holding Chinese shares in my portfolio, 2014 was a nice year and I'm close to rebalance it.
			 
			
					
				Re: Russia Or China
				Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:12 am
				by Ad Orientem
				Russia is a disaster on wheels. Fitch just downgraded their bonds to BBB with a negative outlook. See this related thread...
http://gyroscopicinvesting.com/forum/ot ... it-rating/ 
			 
			
					
				Re: Russia Or China
				Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:00 am
				by MachineGhost
				
The other problem is foreign investor sentiment towards Russia is bullish.  Bottoms do not happen when everyone is crowded to the bullish side.
The same thing is happening in oil too right now, BTW.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Russia Or China
				Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:58 pm
				by dualstow
				Bad day for Shanghai. Down something like 7.7% in one fell swoop.
			 
			
					
				Re: Russia Or China
				Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:29 pm
				by coinstar
				How would you invest in China or Russia? Is there an ETF specific to those countries? VWO is the only EM fund I've used and it splits across many emerging markets.
			 
			
					
				Re: Russia Or China
				Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:54 pm
				by rickb
				coinstar wrote:
How would you invest in China or Russia? Is there an ETF specific to those countries? VWO is the only EM fund I've used and it splits across many emerging markets.
RSX - Russia ETF (plus more at 
http://etfdb.com/type/region/emerging-europe/russia/)
FXI - China ETF (plus many more 
http://etfdb.com/type/region/emerging-a ... fic/china/)
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Russia Or China
				Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:59 pm
				by goldfinger
				coinstar wrote:
How would you invest in China or Russia? Is there an ETF specific to those countries? VWO is the only EM fund I've used and it splits across many emerging markets.
ETFs tracking China domestic market: ASHR, PEK, CAF
Disclaim: I have ASHR shares
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Russia Or China
				Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:10 pm
				by Reub
				KBA for China.