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Older Adults: Double Your Protein to Build More Muscle

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:06 am
by MachineGhost
Some more quantitative targets to use!  A lot of old people (especially women) eat way below even the minimum RDA. ::)  As a rule of thumb, there are 7 grams of protein per ounce of animal protein, so 4oz cooked weight is what you want to eat per meal (typically around 5oz pre-cooked), depending on your weight.  Invest in a top notch scale: http://www.amazon.com/EatSmart-Precisio ... 009EUPMFK/

[quote=http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 121613.htm]Current US recommendations for daily dietary protein intake are 0.8 grams/kilogram of body weight (roughly 62 g of protein per day for a 170-pound person). Previous research has shown that older adults need a protein intake of at least 0.40 g/kg of body weight at each meal (roughly 31 g of protein per meal or 93 g per day for a 170-pound person) to encourage maximum protein synthesis. This represents a significantly higher amount of protein than the recommended dietary allowance (RDA) suggests. Researchers at the Center for Translational Research in Aging and Longevity at the Donald W. Reynolds Institute on Aging at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences set out to measure whether daily protein intake greater than the average American adult consumption leads to a greater net protein gain in older adults. They also examined whether the timing of protein intake made a difference in protein synthesis -- the process by which cells make protein -- and net protein gains.

The research team studied 20 healthy adults between 52-75 years of age, randomly assigning them to one of four groups over a four-day test period. Two groups ate the RDA of 0.8 g/kg per day of protein: one group had even protein distribution across meals (33% of total protein at breakfast, lunch and dinner) and the other had an uneven protein distribution at meals (15% at breakfast, 20% at lunch and 65% at dinner). The other two groups ate double the RDA (1.5 g/kg day of protein) following the same even and uneven protein distribution patterns as the first two groups. The group that consumed double the RDA was supplemented with a pre-weighed milk protein concentrate (equal parts whey and casein) to ensure that they achieved daily protein goals of 1.5 g/kg day. All meals were prepared in prepared in the Metabolic Kitchen at University of Arkansas Translational Research Institute. The subjects recorded time and other details about the food they ate.

The research team found that while the distribution of protein across meals did not make a significant impact, total amount of protein consumed did. "Although there was no clear effect of the pattern of protein intake in our study, we observed a definitive effect of a higher amount of protein intake in mixed meals on whole body net protein balance and muscle protein synthesis," the authors wrote. "Whole body net protein balance was greater with protein intake above recommended dietary allowance."
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Re: Older Adults: Double Your Protein to Build More Muscle

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:59 am
by ochotona
Strongly agreed!

Re: Older Adults: Double Your Protein to Build More Muscle

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:23 pm
by moda0306
If someone is consuming around 2,500 calories a day @ 170 lbs., and consume 93 grams of protein (372 calories), he is consuming approximately 15% of his calories in the form of protein.

I'm surprised that people are grossly beneath this amount.

Perhaps it's because Mr. 170 lbs is consuming more like 3,500 calories today, and the rest of the calories are garbage empty carbs and bad fats. :/

I tend to have a 50/30/20 rule (fats, carbs, protein).  But that's my ideal.  I try to curve my diet towards that by the end of the day, but it's often "difficult" (aka, easy to screw up).

Re: Older Adults: Double Your Protein to Build More Muscle

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:09 pm
by MachineGhost
I target 1800 calories a day and I've gained 25lbs of muscle on it over the past three years.  It would be difficult for me to eat more protein I already do.  At least in the form of whole food protein.  They used milk protein in the study.  It certainly is a lot easier to drink down protein than to digest it.  Let's see, I get 39g of animal in my breakfast smoothie, then 28g * 2 of animal in two solid food meals, so thats 112g right there for the 1.5g/kg mark, not counting the shitty protein from vegetables that doesn't really count.  Eating more than this just seems not humanly possible to me unless you were a super athlete free radicalizing yourself to death or an addict to any number of processed marketing fiction foods.

Moda, I don't know how you can eat 2500 calories is a day and not be superfat.  What exactly are you eating?  Because once you get your 38g * 3 protein, 50g * 3 starchy carb, 2 * 3 non-starchy fibrous veggies, all you are left with is about 1400+ calories to get from fat to reach 2500.  3500 is out of this world!  Where is all that fat coming from?