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Pointedstick wrote: …And yet nobody cares. That's the Clinton Miracle. The worst scandals just seem to slide right off them.

MachineGhost wrote:

Pointedstick wrote: …And yet nobody cares. That's the Clinton Miracle. The worst scandals just seem to slide right off them.

Perceptions is reality?

Pointedstick wrote: …And yet nobody cares. That's the Clinton Miracle. The worst scandals just seem to slide right off them.

moda0306 wrote: I guess I always just assumed the whole "Bill and Hillary killed people" accusation to be ridiculous and not worth entertaining.  I've literally done ZERO research on it, and barely heard anything about it.

Are you guys asserting that you think there is a high-ish probability that they ordered one or more murders?

MediumTex wrote: The idea that Vince Foster was a hit, though, is silly.  Foster had been friends with the Clintons for decades (though I never heard that Hillary was supposed to be sleeping with him).  His suicide was a sad thing, but if you read his suicide note and the things that were going on in his life at the time, it's really not all that suspicious to me.

MachineGhost wrote:

MediumTex wrote: The idea that Vince Foster was a hit, though, is silly.  Foster had been friends with the Clintons for decades (though I never heard that Hillary was supposed to be sleeping with him).  His suicide was a sad thing, but if you read his suicide note and the things that were going on in his life at the time, it's really not all that suspicious to me.

Yes, they were lovers since Bill's been practicing infidelity ever since he was an up and coming politician.  So except for all the suspicious circumstances surrounding Foster's death as well as the trail of "suicides" that can't possibly be suicides that have dogged the Clintons since the early years.  So I'd say either one or the other is personally responsible or they have a hit man they call upon.  Since it hasn't happened in a long while, I'd say its probably Hillary since she's been in the public spotlight more than Bill since 2000.  And since Clinton's brother got the treatment, it's unlikely to be Bill.

Is it really surprising though?  Hillary is a power hungry mad corrupt sleazebag that gave up her naive liberal Baby Boomer ambitions of changing the world (most likely out of frustration).  Where have I seen that movie before...

MediumTex wrote: What treatment did Clinton's brother get?

Ad Orientem wrote: Didn't we have a thread once upon a time dedicated to our favorite fringe conspiracy theories? I forgot about this one. It definitely should be in the top ten.

MachineGhost wrote:

Ad Orientem wrote: Didn't we have a thread once upon a time dedicated to our favorite fringe conspiracy theories? I forgot about this one. It definitely should be in the top ten.

Which part do you think is the fringe conspiracy theory?  Because I see a massive a mount of articles and testimony from mainstream media clearly documenting the Clinton's sordid history.  Bill was a serial rapist and a womanizer, Hillary is some kind of power mad lesbian.

In 1994, Falwell subsidized the creation of a film called The Clinton Chronicles that featured Christopher Ruddy's claims that the gun that killed Foster was placed in his hand after the fact, and that Foster's body was laid out to give the appearance of suicide, among others. Funding for the film was provided by Citizens for Honest Government, an organization to which Falwell gave $200,000 in 1994 and 1995. "Citizens for Honest Government covertly paid individuals who had provided information to media outlets such as the Wall Street Journal editorial page and the American Spectator magazine", and in 1995, made discretionary payments to two Arkansas state troopers who had spoken out in support of the idea of a conspiracy surrounding Foster's death. The two troopers – Roger Perry and Larry Patteson – had also previously given testimony supporting Paula Jones' claims of sexual misconduct and misuse of government resources against Bill Clinton (See: Troopergate).  Patrick Matrisciana, president of Citizens for Honest Government, produced The Clinton Chronicles video and appeared in its commercials as an "investigative reporter" where he & Rev. Falwell engaged in the following exchange:

    Falwell: "Could you please tell me and the American people why you think that your life and the lives of the others on this video are in danger?"

    Matrisciana: "Jerry, two weeks ago we had an interview with a man who was an insider; his plane crashed and he was killed an hour before the interview. You may say this is just a coincidence, but there was another fellow that we were also going to interview, and he was killed in a plane crash. Jerry, are these coincidences? I don't think so."

When asked about the spot, Matrisciana admitted he was not a reporter and replied "I doubt our lives were actually ever in any real danger. That was Jerry's idea to do that ... He thought that would be dramatic."