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A Classic Formula for Pi Has Been Discovered Hidden in Hydrogen Atoms

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:29 am
by MachineGhost
"Hand of God", right???

[quote=http://www.sciencealert.com/a-classic-f ... ogen-atoms]For the first time, scientists have discovered a classic formula for pi in the world of quantum physics. Pi is the ratio between a circle's circumference and its diameter, and is incredibly important in pure mathematics, but now scientists have also found it "lurking" in the world of physics, when using quantum mechanics to compare the energy levels of a hydrogen atom.

Why is that exciting? Well, it reveals an incredibly special and previously unknown connection between quantum physics and maths.[/quote]

Re: A Classic Formula for Pi Has Been Discovered Hidden in Hydrogen Atoms

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:22 pm
by Greg
Cool stuff.

Re: A Classic Formula for Pi Has Been Discovered Hidden in Hydrogen Atoms

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:20 pm
by MachineGhost
Greg wrote: Cool stuff.
Very cool because this implies a microscopic to macroscopic order for cycles that all the pooh poohers will now have to eat crow.

Re: A Classic Formula for Pi Has Been Discovered Hidden in Hydrogen Atoms

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:43 pm
by Mountaineer
Not Pi and hydrogen, but somewhat related in concept, and interesting:

"Multifaceted Design of the Strong Nuclear Force"

snip <  For life to be possible it is critical that the strong nuclear force be attractive only over lengths no greater than 2.0 fermis and no less than 0.7 fermis (one fermi = a quadrillionth of a meter) and maximally attractive at about 0.9 fermis.2 At lengths shorter than 0.7 fermis, it is essential that the strong nuclear force be strongly repulsive. The reason why is that protons and neutrons are packages of more fundamental particles called quarks and gluons. Each proton is a package made up of two up quarks and one down quark plus the relevant gluons, while each neutron contains two down quarks and one up quark with their relevant gluons. If the strong nuclear force were not strongly repulsive on length scales below 0.7 fermis, the proton and neutron packages of quarks and gluons would merge. Such mergers would mean no atoms, no molecules, and no chemistry would ever be possible anywhere or any time in the universe. As with the attractive effect of the strong nuclear force, the repulsive effect must be exquisitely fine-tuned in both its length range of operation and the strength level of the repulsion.

The strong nuclear force is both the strongest attractive force in nature and the strongest repulsive force in nature. The fact that it is attractive on one length scale and repulsive on a different length scale makes it highly unusual and counterintuitive. Nevertheless, without these weird properties life would be impossible
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http://www.reasons.org/articles/multifa ... lear-force

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Re: A Classic Formula for Pi Has Been Discovered Hidden in Hydrogen Atoms

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:10 pm
by MachineGhost
Mountaineer wrote: The strong nuclear force is both the strongest attractive force in nature and the strongest repulsive force in nature. The fact that it is attractive on one length scale and repulsive on a different length scale makes it highly unusual and counterintuitive. Nevertheless, without these weird properties life would be impossible[/i]. >
Go even deeper into the microscopic and there is no space or time at all!  I'm talking about at the vibrating quantum strings level, the true fundamental.  All time, space, matter and yes, even life, are emergent properties from that.

Although, I think that guy is completely overlooking dark matter.  There is likely an infinitesimally-sized particle involved in that we just cannot see yet.  Or another dimension.

Re: A Classic Formula for Pi Has Been Discovered Hidden in Hydrogen Atoms

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:53 pm
by Mountaineer
MachineGhost wrote:
Mountaineer wrote: The strong nuclear force is both the strongest attractive force in nature and the strongest repulsive force in nature. The fact that it is attractive on one length scale and repulsive on a different length scale makes it highly unusual and counterintuitive. Nevertheless, without these weird properties life would be impossible[/i]. >
Go even deeper into the microscopic and there is no space or time at all!  I'm talking about at the vibrating quantum strings level, the true fundamental.  All time, space, matter and yes, even life, are emergent properties from that.

Although, I think that guy is completely overlooking dark matter.  There is likely an infinitesimally-sized particle involved in that we just cannot see yet.  Or another dimension.
Similar to my view.  I think the Triune God exists outside of what we call time and the dimensions of space.  He has chosen to enter His creation according to His promises.  He promised to be:  In the incarnation through assention.  With the bread and wine.  In the waters of baptism.  Where two or three are gathered in His name.  In the new creation.  Oddball thought:  Perhaps God is the dark matter.  So, does this thread belong in religion, math, or physics?  ;)

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