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Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:19 am
by dualstow
Checking out the reviews this week and last. It's got some warts, but I'm intrigued.

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:24 am
by Jack Jones
dualstow wrote: Checking out the reviews this week and last. It's got some warts, but I'm intrigued.
I'm a Debian Stable guy. Now that I think of it, it's sort of like the PP of Linux distros.

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:06 am
by l82start
i am in the middle of a chaotic switch to Ubuntu 14.04 involving an attempt at dual boot with win 7 and Opensuse that fried my boot up in bios and left me with no OS and a non booting computer, (after trying everything under the sun, running Ubuntu was the only way to get an OS installed and my boot repaired, so much for a dual boot and dipping my toes in slowly... its the Linux deep end for me) i am now at the beginning of the process of recovering files from a win backup (ugh), and figuring out what is the Linux version of the software i use, and converting my now non functioning spreadsheets from open office to libre...  if i cant figure the last one out i may resort to posting a thread...  wish me luck  :o

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:13 am
by Xan
Jack Jones wrote:I'm a Debian Stable guy. Now that I think of it, it's sort of like the PP of Linux distros.
I'm with you, Jack.  For laptops, desktops, and servers.

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:05 pm
by dualstow
good luck, l8. Fingers crossed!

Raspberry Pi users seem to be into Debian. I'm keeping it on the backburner.
EDIT: I see that Debian installs & runs fine on the Mac mini model 3,1 which is great, b/c I have a spare one. There are actually instructions on how to install it right. How friendly!

I remember that Kevin (M or W? I confused the pp Kevin with the boglehead Kevin) said to just jump in and stop playing with distributions, but since I have my Mac to keep my printer and scanner running and do all the things I really need to do, my Linux experience is indefinitely "in beta." I'm having a good time watching reviews of different OS's on youtube, especially the one in which the kid has his "mum" try each one out for novice-user-friendliness.

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:49 pm
by MWKXJ

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:52 pm
by dualstow
Ah, I recognize the No Starch Press cover. I have (or did have) the book on Ubuntu, feisty fawn era, by the same publisher.

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:01 pm
by Jack Jones
I also prefer OpenBSD when it has support for my hardware.

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:44 pm
by Reub
dualstow wrote: Checking out the reviews this week and last. It's got some warts, but I'm intrigued.
Is it true that this is the perfect OS for libertarians because it shuts itself off at the first sign of trouble?

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:25 am
by gizmo_rat
I tried it a while ago, it's good in that its fast, stable and looks inoffensive. However it felt a little clumsy to me particularly once I'd started adding in a couple of other applications, I then fubar'd it fiddling around. Which actually pretty much sums up my whole linux experience.

I'm looking forward to Ubuntu's next push forward / backward / sideways  on the desktop.

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:42 am
by dualstow
Finally an answer, thank you!

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:49 am
by dualstow
LOL, I remember that one well.

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:00 pm
by MachineGhost
LOL!  Almost as funny as the cute little black boy playing with his toy truck among the True Believers.

Anyway, I feel in the mood to dual boot this weekend.  What is currently the most Windows-like distribution?  There was one mentioned in another thread.

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:42 pm
by dualstow
Zorin, I guess.
That's what I'm putting on a USB this evening.

EDIT: didn't work, but Mint 17.2 32-bit worked fine.

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:16 am
by dualstow
Jack, could I shoot a few quick Linux questions at you via PM? I use forums, too, but sometimes it's not worth posting some of these.
No rush on replies, of course.

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:06 pm
by Early Cuyler
MachineGhost wrote: LOL!  Almost as funny as the cute little black boy playing with his toy truck among the True Believers.

Anyway, I feel in the mood to dual boot this weekend.  What is currently the most Windows-like distribution?  There was one mentioned in another thread.
Linux Mint with the cinnamon desktop environment is pretty close.

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 8:28 pm
by Jack Jones
dualstow wrote: Jack, could I shoot a few quick Linux questions at you via PM? I use forums, too, but sometimes it's not worth posting some of these.
No rush on replies, of course.
Sure!

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:25 am
by dualstow
Found this in the emacs manual today (my original screenshot). Even you can appreciate this, Tenn. No linux or emacs prerequisite here:
http://imgur.com/nje19m6

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:22 pm
by Mountaineer
dualstow wrote: Found this in the emacs manual today (my original screenshot). Even you can appreciate this, Tenn. No linux or emacs prerequisite here:
http://imgur.com/nje19m6
??  I don't see any screenshot?

... M

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:27 pm
by dualstow
M, the screenshot is of text. Click the link and you should see it beginning with the word "Specify".
It's not very large so it might be easy to miss at first.
Mountaineer wrote:
dualstow wrote: Found this in the emacs manual today (my original screenshot). Even you can appreciate this, Tenn. No linux or emacs prerequisite here:
http://imgur.com/nje19m6
??  I don't see any screenshot?

... M

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:24 pm
by Jack Jones
dualstow wrote: Found this in the emacs manual today (my original screenshot). Even you can appreciate this, Tenn. No linux or emacs prerequisite here:
http://imgur.com/nje19m6
Richard Stallman (RMS) was the maintainer of Emacs for a long while. You can find more of his rants on his website:

https://stallman.org/

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:47 pm
by dualstow
I've been aware of him since the 80s, but only had an inkling before the birth of the internet.
Really interesting guy.  :) As is Linus Torvalds, Bill Joy, et al.

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:38 pm
by Tortoise
What would be a good "minimalistic" Linux distro to use on a 10-year-old clunker PC? Just for tinkering around on the Linux command line.

I had previously been using Ubuntu on that PC, but one of the recent software updates screwed something up and now it won't even boot. So a distro that uses the least amount of resources (i.e., graphics) would be nice to avoid that kind of thing happening again.

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:54 pm
by dualstow
I'm guessing Puppy Linux, but I'll wait for the experienced users to chime in.

Re: Elementary OS, Freya (Linux): tried it?

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:45 pm
by Early Cuyler
Tortoise wrote: What would be a good "minimalistic" Linux distro to use on a 10-year-old clunker PC? Just for tinkering around on the Linux command line.

I had previously been using Ubuntu on that PC, but one of the recent software updates screwed something up and now it won't even boot. So a distro that uses the least amount of resources (i.e., graphics) would be nice to avoid that kind of thing happening again.
As dualstow mentioned, puppy linux may be what you are looking for. Lxle is another possibility;one plus is that it is based on Ubuntu,which you are familiar with already, while still being fairly full featured. I've included a link that you may find useful.

http://distrowatch.com/search.php?categ ... +Computers

good luck!