Not many options in company's 401(k) plan
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:41 pm
Hello everyone,
I can only partly implement a permanent portfolio investment plan in my company's 401(k). What's currently available that is similar to the cash portion and equity portion of the PP is a fund that holds a mix of short term treasuries and other short term corporate debt (AA and above rated) and an index fund that tracks the S&P 500.
There is neither an option to invest in the long term Treasury (LTT) bond portion of the PP nor the gold portion of the portfolio. The longest duration I can get from plan is a 'high quality' income fund with a duration of about 4.5 years and the content of that fund is from AAA rated Treasuries down to BB rated corporate debt.
The 401(k) plan administrator does not allow access to a brokerage window and I am not getting up my hopes that a long term Treasury bond fund will be added anytime soon to the plan (even though I approached them regarding adding such a fund / currently waiting on their response).
What is the best option to handle this situation if you have say 12,000 in the 401(k)?
A)
401(k): (total: $12,000) $3,000 Cash + $9,000 Stocks
Taxable account: (total: $24,000) $6,000 Cash + $9,000 long term Treasuries + $9,000 Gold
The problem I see with approach A is that it is impossible to re-balance properly if you have 1 and a 1/3 assets in the 401(k) and 2 and 2/3 assets in a taxable account. Just looking back at 2008 the profitable trade was to sell appreciated assets like LTT to buy depressed assets like stocks.
I would also have to limit my 401(k) contributions (currently maxing out) as I probably would need to allocate more money to the taxable account (due to having more assets in that account) and thereby increasing my taxable income.
B) (numbers are rounded)
401(k): (total: $12,000): $1,297 Cash + $1,946 Stocks + $8,757 high quality income fund
Taxable account: (total: $24,000) $648 Cash + $1,946 Gold (to cover the PP side of the 401(k))
+ $5,352 Cash + $5,352 Gold + $5,352 Stocks + $5,352 LTT (traditional PP with remaining funds).
The $8,757 in high quality income fund is trying to mimic a long term Treasury fund with a 4.5 times allocation to this portion in order to get a 20 year duration similar to the Treasuries (as mentioned above the duration of this fund is about 4.5 years but with higher credit risk, so 4.5 x $1,946 = $8,757).
Overall, B) is a bit 'Treasury' heavy and lighter on the cash, stocks and gold allocation but would make re-balancing more applicable.
C) similar to B) (numbers are rounded)
401(k): (total: $12,000): $1,297 Cash + $1,946 Stocks + $8,757 high quality income fund
Taxable account: (total: $24,000) $648 Cash + $1,946 Gold (to cover the PP side of the 401(k))
+ $7,055 Cash + $7,055 Gold + $7055 Stocks + $243 LTT.
C) gives an overall $9,000 allocation to every asset (cash, stocks, bonds, gold) but again the re-balancing issue (Treasuries - Stocks) comes up here again but this time (compared to A) I am 'Treasury' heavy in the 401(k)).
Sorry for the long write-up.
Any thoughts?
I can only partly implement a permanent portfolio investment plan in my company's 401(k). What's currently available that is similar to the cash portion and equity portion of the PP is a fund that holds a mix of short term treasuries and other short term corporate debt (AA and above rated) and an index fund that tracks the S&P 500.
There is neither an option to invest in the long term Treasury (LTT) bond portion of the PP nor the gold portion of the portfolio. The longest duration I can get from plan is a 'high quality' income fund with a duration of about 4.5 years and the content of that fund is from AAA rated Treasuries down to BB rated corporate debt.
The 401(k) plan administrator does not allow access to a brokerage window and I am not getting up my hopes that a long term Treasury bond fund will be added anytime soon to the plan (even though I approached them regarding adding such a fund / currently waiting on their response).
What is the best option to handle this situation if you have say 12,000 in the 401(k)?
A)
401(k): (total: $12,000) $3,000 Cash + $9,000 Stocks
Taxable account: (total: $24,000) $6,000 Cash + $9,000 long term Treasuries + $9,000 Gold
The problem I see with approach A is that it is impossible to re-balance properly if you have 1 and a 1/3 assets in the 401(k) and 2 and 2/3 assets in a taxable account. Just looking back at 2008 the profitable trade was to sell appreciated assets like LTT to buy depressed assets like stocks.
I would also have to limit my 401(k) contributions (currently maxing out) as I probably would need to allocate more money to the taxable account (due to having more assets in that account) and thereby increasing my taxable income.
B) (numbers are rounded)
401(k): (total: $12,000): $1,297 Cash + $1,946 Stocks + $8,757 high quality income fund
Taxable account: (total: $24,000) $648 Cash + $1,946 Gold (to cover the PP side of the 401(k))
+ $5,352 Cash + $5,352 Gold + $5,352 Stocks + $5,352 LTT (traditional PP with remaining funds).
The $8,757 in high quality income fund is trying to mimic a long term Treasury fund with a 4.5 times allocation to this portion in order to get a 20 year duration similar to the Treasuries (as mentioned above the duration of this fund is about 4.5 years but with higher credit risk, so 4.5 x $1,946 = $8,757).
Overall, B) is a bit 'Treasury' heavy and lighter on the cash, stocks and gold allocation but would make re-balancing more applicable.
C) similar to B) (numbers are rounded)
401(k): (total: $12,000): $1,297 Cash + $1,946 Stocks + $8,757 high quality income fund
Taxable account: (total: $24,000) $648 Cash + $1,946 Gold (to cover the PP side of the 401(k))
+ $7,055 Cash + $7,055 Gold + $7055 Stocks + $243 LTT.
C) gives an overall $9,000 allocation to every asset (cash, stocks, bonds, gold) but again the re-balancing issue (Treasuries - Stocks) comes up here again but this time (compared to A) I am 'Treasury' heavy in the 401(k)).
Sorry for the long write-up.
Any thoughts?