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What could possibly be wrong with the Golden Rule? Golden Rule: He who holds the gold makes the rules. It is just plain old crony capitalism writ large, a form of might makes right.moda0306 wrote: The Golden Rule has some glaring faults. Just because I have certain moral priorities about what I would want/do in a situation, doesn't mean that it's always going to induce behavior that others might not just find morally reprehensible.
No, the Golden Rule I'm referring to is the one that has been expressed in many ways, none of which is equivalent to the one you cite. Rabbi Hillel's formulation is usually stated as "If something is hateful to you, do not do it to another." or something very similar to that.Mountaineer wrote:What could possibly be wrong with the Golden Rule? Golden Rule: He who holds the gold makes the rules. It is just plain old crony capitalism writ large, a form of might makes right.moda0306 wrote: The Golden Rule has some glaring faults. Just because I have certain moral priorities about what I would want/do in a situation, doesn't mean that it's always going to induce behavior that others might not just find morally reprehensible.
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Yes, basically.Mountaineer wrote:If I understand what you are saying correctly, it seems HB's "be honest" is more like "keep your promises" or some kind of internal honor code. Right?moda0306 wrote: Mountaineer,
HB's moral philosophy is more of a life hack towards getting what you want than adherence to external moral "truths" or assertions. In fact, many wouldn't even refer to it as a moral philosophy.
But honesty can be defined. Stating the truth as you know it, and sticking to your word, are the definitions (loose enough, I suppose) of "honesty." But he doesn't say "do this or else you're evil," he says "do this and you'll attract the kind of people you want around you."
So we probably shouldn't even include HB's philosophy in conversations about morality, because he specifically chooses to define it quite a bit differently than we use it in these debates.
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Hey, I know that. I was just kidding.Libertarian666 wrote:No, the Golden Rule I'm referring to is the one that has been expressed in many ways, none of which is equivalent to the one you cite. Rabbi Hillel's formulation is usually stated as "If something is hateful to you, do not do it to another." or something very similar to that.Mountaineer wrote:What could possibly be wrong with the Golden Rule? Golden Rule: He who holds the gold makes the rules. It is just plain old crony capitalism writ large, a form of might makes right.moda0306 wrote: The Golden Rule has some glaring faults. Just because I have certain moral priorities about what I would want/do in a situation, doesn't mean that it's always going to induce behavior that others might not just find morally reprehensible.
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That is because the Golden Rule is very simple, regardless of how complex people would like it to be. Of course it is impossible to exhaust its possibilities, but the basic idea is within the understanding of a small child.Desert wrote: I'm amazed at the internal moral code little kids have. They break it often, but wow, they really do understand right and wrong, maybe better than lots of adults.
Ok, never mind then.Mountaineer wrote:Hey, I know that. I was just kidding.Libertarian666 wrote:No, the Golden Rule I'm referring to is the one that has been expressed in many ways, none of which is equivalent to the one you cite. Rabbi Hillel's formulation is usually stated as "If something is hateful to you, do not do it to another." or something very similar to that.Mountaineer wrote: What could possibly be wrong with the Golden Rule? Golden Rule: He who holds the gold makes the rules. It is just plain old crony capitalism writ large, a form of might makes right.
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Hey tech, I'm the one with the red cheeks, not you. My wife is always telling me that my stupid humor isn't always funny. So, no need for the red cheeks. You were just doing a faithful job of explaining and that I thank you for.Libertarian666 wrote:Ok, never mind then.Mountaineer wrote:Hey, I know that. I was just kidding.Libertarian666 wrote: No, the Golden Rule I'm referring to is the one that has been expressed in many ways, none of which is equivalent to the one you cite. Rabbi Hillel's formulation is usually stated as "If something is hateful to you, do not do it to another." or something very similar to that.
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You are quite welcome!Mountaineer wrote:Hey tech, I'm the one with the red cheeks, not you. My wife is always telling me that my stupid humor isn't always funny. So, no need for the red cheeks. You were just doing a faithful job of explaining and that I thank you for.Libertarian666 wrote:Ok, never mind then.Mountaineer wrote: Hey, I know that. I was just kidding.
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