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The IRS Joins the Orwellian Surveillance State

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moda will soil his drawers over this one!

[quote=http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/o ... hone-tower]The Internal Revenue Service is the latest in a growing list of US federal agencies known to have possessed the sophisticated cellphone dragnet equipment known as Stingray, according to documents obtained by the Guardian.

Invoices obtained following a request under the Freedom of Information Act show purchases made in 2009 and 2012 by the federal tax agency with Harris Corporation, one of a number of companies that manufacture the devices. Privacy advocates said the revelation “shows the wide proliferation of this very invasive surveillance technology”.

Invoices obtained following a request under the Freedom of Information Act show purchases made in 2009 and 2012 by the federal tax agency with Harris Corporation, one of a number of companies that manufacture the devices. Privacy advocates said the revelation “shows the wide proliferation of this very invasive surveillance technology”.

The 2009 IRS/Harris Corp invoice is mostly redacted under section B(4) of the Freedom of Information Act, which is intended to protect trade secrets and privileged information. However, an invoice from 2012, which is also partially redacted, reports that the agency spent $65,652 on upgrading a Stingray II to a HailStorm, a more powerful version of the same device, as well as $6,000 on training from Harris Corporation.

Stingrays are the best-known example of a type of device called an IMSI-catcher, also known as “cell-site simulators”. About the size of a briefcase, they work by pretending to be cellphone towers in order to strip metadata and in some cases even content from phones which connect to them.

Despite their extensive capabilities, they require only a low-level court order called a PEN register, also known as a “trap and trace”, to grant permission for their use.

Immense secrecy has so far surrounded these devices, but a picture is slowly emerging which shows widespread use. Various revelations by the American Civil Liberties Union and news outlets including the Guardian had shown that at least 12 federal agencies are already known to have these devices, including the National Security Agency and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The IRS makes 13.[/quote]
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MachineGhost wrote: moda will soil his drawers over this one!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/26/stingray-surveillance-technology-irs-cellphone-tower wrote:The Internal Revenue Service is the latest in a growing list of US federal agencies known to have possessed the sophisticated cellphone dragnet equipment known as Stingray, according to documents obtained by the Guardian.

Invoices obtained following a request under the Freedom of Information Act show purchases made in 2009 and 2012 by the federal tax agency with Harris Corporation, one of a number of companies that manufacture the devices. Privacy advocates said the revelation “shows the wide proliferation of this very invasive surveillance technology”.

Invoices obtained following a request under the Freedom of Information Act show purchases made in 2009 and 2012 by the federal tax agency with Harris Corporation, one of a number of companies that manufacture the devices. Privacy advocates said the revelation “shows the wide proliferation of this very invasive surveillance technology”.

The 2009 IRS/Harris Corp invoice is mostly redacted under section B(4) of the Freedom of Information Act, which is intended to protect trade secrets and privileged information. However, an invoice from 2012, which is also partially redacted, reports that the agency spent $65,652 on upgrading a Stingray II to a HailStorm, a more powerful version of the same device, as well as $6,000 on training from Harris Corporation.

Stingrays are the best-known example of a type of device called an IMSI-catcher, also known as “cell-site simulators”. About the size of a briefcase, they work by pretending to be cellphone towers in order to strip metadata and in some cases even content from phones which connect to them.

Despite their extensive capabilities, they require only a low-level court order called a PEN register, also known as a “trap and trace”, to grant permission for their use.

Immense secrecy has so far surrounded these devices, but a picture is slowly emerging which shows widespread use. Various revelations by the American Civil Liberties Union and news outlets including the Guardian had shown that at least 12 federal agencies are already known to have these devices, including the National Security Agency and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The IRS makes 13.
I'm pretty numb to this crap, now.  I only take an angry dump in my pants when "freedom-loving Americans" defend this garbage.  Of course, since this is the IRS, Republicans will likely be a useful ally (for now) towards transparency, and I doubt I'll see dems overtly defending it (more trying to avoid talking about it), so I think I'll stay clean.


EDIT:  I take it back. The big problem isn't people that overtly defend secretive, unaccountable government, but those who get more worked up over issues like gay marriage (both sides of the issue) than whether our government is engaging in this type of behavior. 
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moda0306 wrote:
MachineGhost wrote: moda will soil his drawers over this one!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/26/stingray-surveillance-technology-irs-cellphone-tower wrote:The Internal Revenue Service is the latest in a growing list of US federal agencies known to have possessed the sophisticated cellphone dragnet equipment known as Stingray, according to documents obtained by the Guardian.

Invoices obtained following a request under the Freedom of Information Act show purchases made in 2009 and 2012 by the federal tax agency with Harris Corporation, one of a number of companies that manufacture the devices. Privacy advocates said the revelation “shows the wide proliferation of this very invasive surveillance technology”.

Invoices obtained following a request under the Freedom of Information Act show purchases made in 2009 and 2012 by the federal tax agency with Harris Corporation, one of a number of companies that manufacture the devices. Privacy advocates said the revelation “shows the wide proliferation of this very invasive surveillance technology”.

The 2009 IRS/Harris Corp invoice is mostly redacted under section B(4) of the Freedom of Information Act, which is intended to protect trade secrets and privileged information. However, an invoice from 2012, which is also partially redacted, reports that the agency spent $65,652 on upgrading a Stingray II to a HailStorm, a more powerful version of the same device, as well as $6,000 on training from Harris Corporation.

Stingrays are the best-known example of a type of device called an IMSI-catcher, also known as “cell-site simulators”. About the size of a briefcase, they work by pretending to be cellphone towers in order to strip metadata and in some cases even content from phones which connect to them.

Despite their extensive capabilities, they require only a low-level court order called a PEN register, also known as a “trap and trace”, to grant permission for their use.

Immense secrecy has so far surrounded these devices, but a picture is slowly emerging which shows widespread use. Various revelations by the American Civil Liberties Union and news outlets including the Guardian had shown that at least 12 federal agencies are already known to have these devices, including the National Security Agency and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The IRS makes 13.
I'm pretty numb to this crap, now.  I only take an angry dump in my pants when "freedom-loving Americans" defend this garbage.  Of course, since this is the IRS, Republicans will likely be a useful ally (for now) towards transparency, and I doubt I'll see dems overtly defending it (more trying to avoid talking about it), so I think I'll stay clean.


EDIT:  I take it back. The big problem isn't people that overtly defend secretive, unaccountable government, but those who get more worked up over issues like gay marriage (both sides of the issue) than whether our government is engaging in this type of behavior.
Those two issues are related more than distantly, in my opinion.  Can you make the connection?  Hint:  what/who has been abandoned and what/who has taken its place?  There are likely multiple correct answers.

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Closely relevant.
In May, the Second Circuit said the NSA lacked the statutory authority to collect telephone metadata from millions of Americans not under suspicion of wrongdoing. Congress subsequently adopted a new statute, requiring the NSA to articulate its suspicions in order to collect said data. Can the NSA continue its suspicion-less surveillance until the new law takes effect? Second Circuit: Yes, it would be “fruitless” to rule on the constitutionality of a program not long for this world. CJE’s Evan Bernick: “Short-lived unconstitutional surveillance is still unconstitutional surveillance, and it’s not ‘fruitless’ to rule on the merits of profoundly important constitutional questions.”   
I wonder how judges sleep at night.
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