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Re: Every knee shall, every tongue confess

Post by Cortopassi » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:17 pm

stuper1 wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:41 pm
The thing is that statistically speaking the police kill more white criminals than they do black criminals, and yet the media only ever tell us about the black criminals that get killed. So, the whole thing is based on a lie. Can anyone imagine why they would tell us this lie? I can . . . the Democrats benefit when we are racially divided. Bingo, that's it. Nevermind that the country suffers when we are divided. All that matters is that the Democrats benefit.
2019 stats, these are just shootings, nothing about any other under the radar stuff like more harassment, 370 white, 235 black shot and killed
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585 ... e-by-race/
Census, 13.4% pop is black, 76.5% white
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/ ... /IPE120218

Calculate the numbers (if I am doing my math right), blacks are 3.6x more likely to be shot and killed by police than whites.
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Re: Every knee shall, every tongue confess

Post by Cortopassi » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:24 pm

drumminj wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:44 pm
Are police (and frankly government across the board) out of control? Absolutely. The rule of law is a joke these days. Police are exempted from the laws the supposedly enforce. There's no recourse or accountability. That is absolutely a problem. But it's not a race problem. It's an issue for everyone.
My wife asked me, if Floyd was white, would this have gotten the same coverage? I know the easy answer is no, but the issue with this one in particular, with the video, the more times I see it and the look on the cop's face, with some sort of I don't give a shit that I'm killing this guy, is the linchpin for me and I suspect many, and is just chilling.

I have tried to put myself in his shoes (Chauvin). As I've said, I don't understand it. Just walk away. If he just killed your daughter, fine, you've got a right to be pissed and maybe go that far, but then also add in the fact that none of the other three even made a half assed effort to try and pull him off or get him to stop. Just over the top evil.
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Re: Every knee shall, every tongue confess

Post by stuper1 » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:34 pm

Cortopassi wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:17 pm
stuper1 wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:41 pm
The thing is that statistically speaking the police kill more white criminals than they do black criminals, and yet the media only ever tell us about the black criminals that get killed. So, the whole thing is based on a lie. Can anyone imagine why they would tell us this lie? I can . . . the Democrats benefit when we are racially divided. Bingo, that's it. Nevermind that the country suffers when we are divided. All that matters is that the Democrats benefit.
2019 stats, these are just shootings, nothing about any other under the radar stuff like more harassment, 370 white, 235 black shot and killed
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585 ... e-by-race/
Census, 13.4% pop is black, 76.5% white
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/ ... /IPE120218

Calculate the numbers (if I am doing my math right), blacks are 3.6x more likely to be shot and killed by police than whites.
And blacks make up 50+ percent of the US prison population.
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Re: Every knee shall, every tongue confess

Post by stuper1 » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:37 pm

Cortopassi wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:24 pm
drumminj wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:44 pm
Are police (and frankly government across the board) out of control? Absolutely. The rule of law is a joke these days. Police are exempted from the laws the supposedly enforce. There's no recourse or accountability. That is absolutely a problem. But it's not a race problem. It's an issue for everyone.
My wife asked me, if Floyd was white, would this have gotten the same coverage? I know the easy answer is no, but the issue with this one in particular, with the video, the more times I see it and the look on the cop's face, with some sort of I don't give a shit that I'm killing this guy, is the linchpin for me and I suspect many, and is just chilling.

I have tried to put myself in his shoes (Chauvin). As I've said, I don't understand it. Just walk away. If he just killed your daughter, fine, you've got a right to be pissed and maybe go that far, but then also add in the fact that none of the other three even made a half assed effort to try and pull him off or get him to stop. Just over the top evil.
I will certainly grant you that Chauvin is likely an evil, power-loving cop, like many others of his kind. All I'm saying is that he was just as likely, or probably more likely given the statistics, to do that to a white person as a black person. So, all of this protesting isn't based on facts/statistics/science; it's just based on stupid luck of the draw. Instead of addressing the real problem, which is poor family structure in the black community, we will hear ad nauseam about systemic racism which really isn't there. And why? Because the media sees it as a wedge to divide the country and promote Democrats.
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Re: Every knee shall, every tongue confess

Post by Tortoise » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:37 am

I would be quite interested to know whether most of the seven prior complaints of police brutality against Chauvin were made by black people or not:

http://complaints.cuapb.org/police_arch ... icer/2377/
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Re: Every knee shall, every tongue confess

Post by dualstow » Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:02 am

I guess the title was supposed to be ‘Every Knee Shall Bend...’

I hesitated to post this yesterday, but with a thread that begins with that photo, I cannot resist.
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A lot of black people are tweeting that they’re creeped out by it.
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Re: Every knee shall, every tongue confess

Post by technovelist » Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:48 am

dualstow wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:02 am
I guess the title was supposed to be ‘Every Knee Shall Bend...’

I hesitated to post this yesterday, but with a thread that begins with that photo, I cannot resist.
{ washing feet }

if you see dale earnhardt jr, scroll down to the post below that.
https://twitter.com/Scott_Spidle/status ... 40385?s=20

It’s more antiracism as religion, like John McWhorter wrote. Plenty of rituals.
A lot of black people are tweeting that they’re creeped out by it.
That's because most black people aren't criminals or lunatics.
Although you would never know that by watching the Marxist media.
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Re: Every knee shall, every tongue confess

Post by Cortopassi » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:21 am

stuper1 wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:37 pm
Instead of addressing the real problem, which is poor family structure in the black community, we will hear ad nauseam about systemic racism which really isn't there. And why? Because the media sees it as a wedge to divide the country and promote Democrats.
I agree on this, but I also have not seen any implementation that has come close to fixing this. Have there been any that anyone knows of? There has to be a democratic or republican leader who's had some level of success somewhere in addressing this? Or are you immediately called a racist if you call out the family structure issues, even if you are black?
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Re: Every knee shall, every tongue confess

Post by vnatale » Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:00 am

Cortopassi wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:24 pm
drumminj wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:44 pm
Are police (and frankly government across the board) out of control? Absolutely. The rule of law is a joke these days. Police are exempted from the laws the supposedly enforce. There's no recourse or accountability. That is absolutely a problem. But it's not a race problem. It's an issue for everyone.
My wife asked me, if Floyd was white, would this have gotten the same coverage? I know the easy answer is no, but the issue with this one in particular, with the video, the more times I see it and the look on the cop's face, with some sort of I don't give a shit that I'm killing this guy, is the linchpin for me and I suspect many, and is just chilling.

I have tried to put myself in his shoes (Chauvin). As I've said, I don't understand it. Just walk away. If he just killed your daughter, fine, you've got a right to be pissed and maybe go that far, but then also add in the fact that none of the other three even made a half assed effort to try and pull him off or get him to stop. Just over the top evil.
Is it true that one of the three was a rookie, it being only his third shift on the job?

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Re: Every knee shall, every tongue confess

Post by Xan » Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:09 am

vnatale wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:00 am
Is it true that one of the three was a rookie, it being only his third shift on the job?

Vinny
Oof, that's a tough spot. Going to jail for failing to tell the guy you're supposed to be learning everything from to lay off. Especially when he's saying things like "if you can talk you can breathe".
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Re: Every knee shall, every tongue confess

Post by technovelist » Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:12 am

Cortopassi wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:21 am
stuper1 wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:37 pm
Instead of addressing the real problem, which is poor family structure in the black community, we will hear ad nauseam about systemic racism which really isn't there. And why? Because the media sees it as a wedge to divide the country and promote Democrats.
I agree on this, but I also have not seen any implementation that has come close to fixing this. Have there been any that anyone knows of? There has to be a democratic or republican leader who's had some level of success somewhere in addressing this? Or are you immediately called a racist if you call out the family structure issues, even if you are black?
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Re: Every knee shall, every tongue confess

Post by technovelist » Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:14 am

Xan wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:09 am
vnatale wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:00 am
Is it true that one of the three was a rookie, it being only his third shift on the job?

Vinny
Oof, that's a tough spot. Going to jail for failing to tell the guy you're supposed to be learning everything from to lay off. Especially when he's saying things like "if you can talk you can breathe".
If that happens, you go over his head to his supervisor. "I vas chust following ordersss!" doesn't fly.
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