Why Portland?

[I Shrugged]

Is it just because there are the right kind and quantity of wacko's there already?
Or did the organized groups target Portland because it's the most liberal city and they can get away with more?
Is it really an accomplishment to tear up a city that agrees with you? Why not take on St. Louis or Dallas?

I find it strange, and am looking for backlash by the Portlandians. Not sure if it's coming though. But if it does, it could doom their craziness. I mean if they turn Portland against them, they have obviously failed. Right?

[Libertarian666]

Is it just because there are the right kind and quantity of wacko's there already?
Or did the organized groups target Portland because it's the most liberal city and they can get away with more?
Is it really an accomplishment to tear up a city that agrees with you? Why not take on St. Louis or Dallas?

I find it strange, and am looking for backlash by the Portlandians. Not sure if it's coming though. But if it does, it could doom their craziness. I mean if they turn Portland against them, they have obviously failed. Right?

It is already coming to a small extent in Seattle, I believe.
I expect it to come in Portland also, and that will indeed doom the "progressives".

[WiseOne]

You mean why are there riots there, or why did Trump pick Portland as the first stop for the federal marshalls?

I assume the latter. No idea, but maybe because it was a small area of town with riots focused on federal buildings - and that's an easier way to start than sending in federal personnel to deal with more generic types of violence. Chicago is most in need of supplemental law enforcement, but that would have been much more controversial and difficult, since the federal agents don't know the area and would have to somehow coordinate with local police.

What I'm wondering though is...why not the National Guard instead of Federal marshalls? The Guard should be in practically every major city right now, and I bet reserve members are wondering the exact same thing as we speak.

[I Shrugged]

WiseOne,

My bad. No, why are the protest groups picking on Portland?

[Mark Leavy]

WiseOne,

My bad. No, why are the protest groups picking on Portland?

That's their breeding ground.

[Libertarian666]

WiseOne,

My bad. No, why are the protest groups picking on Portland?

That's their breeding ground.

Yes, Portland has been pro-communist for a long time.

[I Shrugged]

It has become clear that they are attacking Portland because the officials are on their side. Which is sort of crazy, to attack a city that's on your side. But whatever, have at it.

[Libertarian666]

It has become clear that they are attacking Portland because the officials are on their side. Which is sort of crazy, to attack a city that's on your side. But whatever, have at it.

Terrorists don't have a side. What they have is terror, and the first time you give into them, they know they can push you as far as they like.

[Kriegsspiel]

It has become clear that they are attacking Portland because the officials are on their side. Which is sort of crazy, to attack a city that's on your side. But whatever, have at it.

[shekels]

It has become clear that they are attacking Portland because the officials are on their side. Which is sort of crazy, to attack a city that's on your side. But whatever, have at it.

This was in Seattle not Portland..

I'm sure it is only peaceful in Portland.

Remind me again Who are the elected officials in these communities?

https://youtu.be/tTqglmf8bKY

[Kbg]

RINOs care about Portland, conservatives believe its a local issue. RINOs think the military should be involved, conservatives know why it isn’t.

To answer the question...it’s known as Californication in the west. People fleeing a jacked up state who then try to create what they fled somewhere else.

[Kriegsspiel]

To answer the question...it’s known as Californication in the west. People fleeing a jacked up state who then try to create what they fled somewhere else.

It's known all over the country . I think a lot of us are hoping we're safe from Californication behind the loving protection of the Snow Belt

[Kbg]

To answer the question...it’s known as Californication in the west. People fleeing a jacked up state who then try to create what they fled somewhere else.

It's known all over the country . I think a lot of us are hoping we're safe from Californication behind the loving protection of the Snow Belt

Everyone east of the Mississippi needs to get their own freakin term and quit stealin ours.

Yorkied anyone? States in the process of being Yorkied. VA, NC, FL.

[I Shrugged]

Now they are attacking a county building. This just fascinates me. I am waiting to see how long it takes before these moronic officials finally stand up to the BLM/Antifa.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... ur-county/

[Kriegsspiel]

It has become clear that they are attacking Portland because the officials are on their side. Which is sort of crazy, to attack a city that's on your side. But whatever, have at it.

https://youtu.be/tTqglmf8bKY

[I Shrugged]

Here is an insightful post by Steve Sailer, Unz Review.
The parts after the bold are a bit specious. But the basic point is probably right as to Why Portland?

Why has Detroit been so calm during the Summer of George while Portland has been so riotous?

Detroit is the blackest big city, while Portland is the whitest.

Assume for the sake of simplicity that there are two types of Not-So-Peaceful Protestors: BLM looters and Antifa rioters. The former are disproportionately black and the latter disproportionately white. The former break store windows to steal the merchandise inside, while the latter break store windows to break store windows.

My guess would be that there isn’t too much left to loot in Detroit after all these decades (2020 looting in places like Fifth Avenue and Melrose Boulevard has been unprecedentedly covetous and ambitious). And Detroit is too scary for Antifa, who, while they aren’t scared of the police, are scared of black criminals. Plus, Detroit serves as a sort of giant object lesson that the conventional wisdom of 2020 is stupid.

In contrast, Portland, because of its tiny number of blacks, is ideal for incubating the most extreme versions of Establishment thought among whites.

[I Shrugged]

Last night the rioters marched on the mayor's condo building. They burned and looted a bit on their way. Then they started a fire in front of the building, using looted furniture.

[dualstow]

It has become clear that they are attacking Portland because the officials are on their side. Which is sort of crazy, to attack a city that's on your side. But whatever, have at it.

Terrorists don't have a side. What they have is terror, and the first time you give into them, they know they can push you as far as they like.

I think that terrorists very often have a side and almost always have a clear agenda.

This particular strain, though - I really don’t think they have an endgame in mind. Total capitulation, a dissolving of the police force and life like the “utopia” that they briefly had when they occupied a few intersections?

They won’t know what to do with themselves when the last store window is broken. Write their memoirs, maybe.

As for Ted Wheeler’s support, I don’t think much changes whether he’s with them or against them. He’s so ineffectual. I suppose some of them think of it as a bonus.

[Libertarian666]

It has become clear that they are attacking Portland because the officials are on their side. Which is sort of crazy, to attack a city that's on your side. But whatever, have at it.

Terrorists don't have a side. What they have is terror, and the first time you give into them, they know they can push you as far as they like.

I think that terrorists very often have a side and almost always have a clear agenda.

This particular strain, though - I really don’t think they have an endgame in mind. Total capitulation, a dissolving of the police force and life like the “utopia” that they briefly had when they occupied a few intersections?

They won’t know what to do with themselves when the last store window is broken. Write their memoirs, maybe.

As for Ted Wheeler’s support, I don’t think much changes whether he’s with them or against them. He’s so ineffectual. I suppose some of them think of it as a bonus.

I should clarify what I meant by saying they "don't have a side".
Yes, they have a side, but you aren't on it even if you think you are. If you say you are, they will take that as a license to harm you.
Their endgame is a totalitarian state. They think they would be able to do whatever they wanted in that situation, but of course they would be liquidated as soon as the revolution took hold.
As for what they will do when the last store window is broken, I'm pretty sure most of them can't write much more than their names.

[yankees60]

Still?

Vinny


These Are the 5 Best Eco-Friendly Places to Retire

https://money.com/these-are-the-5-best- ... to-retire/

"Portland, Ore.
West Coast cities sometimes get a bad rap with retirees due to their relatively poor air quality, high cost of living or traffic concerns, but LEED-certified Portland shows the left coast can still be the best coast. Portland holds itself accountable not only for growth, but also for ecological planning. The city adopted a Sustainable City Principles measure in the early 1990s and updated the performance objectives in 2015 for targets in 2030. Specifically, the city aims to recover 90% of waste from its operations by 2030, cut energy use by 2% annually and reduce city operation carbon emissions by 53% from 2007 levels. Portland has a long history working to be a sustainable city, with a network of expansive bike paths, and the city encourages green roofs with vegetation. What’s more, Portland gives you access to the West Coast lifestyle without the housing cost anxiety. The Zillow Home Value Index of homes in Portland is $400,000, which while not cheap is well below the $1.3 million of San Jose, Calif., $967,000 of San Francisco and $649,000 of Los Angeles."

[I Shrugged]

Still?

Vinny


These Are the 5 Best Eco-Friendly Places to Retire

https://money.com/these-are-the-5-best- ... to-retire/

"Portland, Ore.
West Coast cities sometimes get a bad rap with retirees due to their relatively poor air quality, high cost of living or traffic concerns, but LEED-certified Portland shows the left coast can still be the best coast. Portland holds itself accountable not only for growth, but also for ecological planning. The city adopted a Sustainable City Principles measure in the early 1990s and updated the performance objectives in 2015 for targets in 2030. Specifically, the city aims to recover 90% of waste from its operations by 2030, cut energy use by 2% annually and reduce city operation carbon emissions by 53% from 2007 levels. Portland has a long history working to be a sustainable city, with a network of expansive bike paths, and the city encourages green roofs with vegetation. What’s more, Portland gives you access to the West Coast lifestyle without the housing cost anxiety. The Zillow Home Value Index of homes in Portland is $400,000, which while not cheap is well below the $1.3 million of San Jose, Calif., $967,000 of San Francisco and $649,000 of Los Angeles."

Here is a great 1 minute promotional video about Portland!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKuAcd0u6ys

[Tortoise]

Here is a great 1 minute promotional video about Portland!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKuAcd0u6ys

Clearly a video from before 2020, because it shows the Portland police actually doing something.

[Libertarian666]

Still?

Vinny


These Are the 5 Best Eco-Friendly Places to Retire

https://money.com/these-are-the-5-best- ... to-retire/

"Portland, Ore.
West Coast cities sometimes get a bad rap with retirees due to their relatively poor air quality, high cost of living or traffic concerns, but LEED-certified Portland shows the left coast can still be the best coast. Portland holds itself accountable not only for growth, but also for ecological planning. The city adopted a Sustainable City Principles measure in the early 1990s and updated the performance objectives in 2015 for targets in 2030. Specifically, the city aims to recover 90% of waste from its operations by 2030, cut energy use by 2% annually and reduce city operation carbon emissions by 53% from 2007 levels. Portland has a long history working to be a sustainable city, with a network of expansive bike paths, and the city encourages green roofs with vegetation. What’s more, Portland gives you access to the West Coast lifestyle without the housing cost anxiety. The Zillow Home Value Index of homes in Portland is $400,000, which while not cheap is well below the $1.3 million of San Jose, Calif., $967,000 of San Francisco and $649,000 of Los Angeles."

Pretty soon those Portland houses are going to be a lot cheaper.
Of course your fire insurance will be 50% of the price of the house every year, but you can't have everything.

[Kriegsspiel]

Article about the Portland rioting.

For MangoMan

Ted Wheeler should have lost his bid for reelection in 2020. His approval rating was in the dismal mid-20s, but his opponent, Sarah Iannarone, billed herself as the Antifa candidate. “I am antifa,” she wrote on Twitter in January 2019. She repeatedly refused to condemn political violence during her quixotic campaign, and she ventured into public wearing a dress festooned with the faces of mass-murdering tyrants, including China’s Mao Zedong. Sarah Iannarone pulled off the nearly impossible by losing an election to a man whose approval rating was barely half that of Donald Trump.

Loretta Smith ran against Dan Ryan for city council, and she too refused to condemn political violence, choosing to say this instead: “Telling people who are traumatized and exhausted from generations of systemic violence and oppression that they can only communicate their angst through peaceful protest is tone-deaf and inconsistent with the ideals of restorative justice and equity.” She lost the election.

Left-wing populist Chloe Eudaly lost her own city council election, and she was the incumbent. She made enemies everywhere with her pugilistic, my-way-or-the-highway attitude. Critics accused her of “strangling democracy.” She had a more combative relationship with the press than anyone else on the city council. She got yelled at even in art galleries. Few were surprised to see her lose to her moderate challenger, Mingus Mapps.

Suburban moderates and rural conservatives take note: Portlanders aren’t as different from you as you think they are.link

The author's name looked familiar, turns out I read his book On The Hunt In Baghdad back in 2013.