yankees60 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:27 pmShades of the Beardstown Ladies investment group!Ugly_Bird wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:00 pmI found my mistake. I erroneously counted the money added to my PP in 2023 towards the year profits. Oppps!boglerdude wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:52 pm Classic 4x25!? Surely you must have a "variable" portfolio somewhere
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2023 Returns
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Re: 2023 Returns
- mathjak107
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very interesting portfolio.
those funds are not available thru fidelity but i guess if one wanted global coverage
gld gold
ibit bitcoin
bndw. global bond
vt global stock
pdbc commodities and cash would work just fine .
i always like trying experimental portfolios.
i will try this along with my carolina reaper …
the reaper has been doing amazing since 2019 thru all the crap we had
20% upro 3x stock
13% tyd 3x bond
67% dbmf managed futures
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Well, damn, that site provides a valuable - if somewhat sobering - point of view. Feels like we are doing great, but if not for savings from continued work, it looks like we would still be down in real terms since the end of 2021.
But maybe the flip side is that asset prices may not be as historically high as they currently feel. Can't exactly explain how I "feel" asset prices, but there you have it.
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Well the great thing with measures like PE and Schiller CAPE is that you have $ on the numerator and denominator, so they provide a steady view of valuations even in the presence of inflation.barrett wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 6:13 amWell, damn, that site provides a valuable - if somewhat sobering - point of view. Feels like we are doing great, but if not for savings from continued work, it looks like we would still be down in real terms since the end of 2021.
But maybe the flip side is that asset prices may not be as historically high as they currently feel. Can't exactly explain how I "feel" asset prices, but there you have it.
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It's not for everyone but it fits me! What I've learned over the years is that asset allocation seems to be a very personal thing.mathjak107 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 4:38 amvery interesting portfolio.
those funds are not available thru fidelity but i guess if one wanted global coverage
gld gold
ibit bitcoin
bndw. global bond
vt global stock
pdbc commodities and cash would work just fine .
i always like trying experimental portfolios.
i will try this along with my carolina reaper …
the reaper has been doing amazing since 2019 thru all the crap we had
20% upro 3x stock
13% tyd 3x bond
67% dbmf managed futures
www.allterrainportfolio.com
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i took a shot experimenting with it using etfs available here in america .
i already owned the cash , ibit , pdbc and gold
i already owned the cash , ibit , pdbc and gold
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Re: 2023 Returns
My non cash assets are invested:
60% stocks, 20% LTT, 20% Gold
My cash holdings vary between 10% and 15%. So weighting in the cash, I ended the year with this allocation:
Cash 12.5%
Gold 18.25%
Long Term Treasurys 15.75%
Small & Mid Caps 7%
S&P 500 30.5%
International 16%
My return for 2023 was about 15.7%, inclusive of the cash.
60% stocks, 20% LTT, 20% Gold
My cash holdings vary between 10% and 15%. So weighting in the cash, I ended the year with this allocation:
Cash 12.5%
Gold 18.25%
Long Term Treasurys 15.75%
Small & Mid Caps 7%
S&P 500 30.5%
International 16%
My return for 2023 was about 15.7%, inclusive of the cash.