Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

[Xan]

Don’t want to miss The Big Day Vinny Switches Computers, or
as ochotona might call it, TBDVSC.

That's like waiting for the Great Pumpkin.

[dualstow]

[Mountaineer]

Don’t want to miss The Big Day Vinny Switches Computers, or
as ochotona might call it, TBDVSC.

That's like waiting for the Great Pumpkin.

TBDVSCATIAAB

And Turns Into An AI Bot

Just a thought prompted by a song my daughter texted me. Ask ChatGPT ‘who is Mason Jar Moonshine and who does he sound like?’. Then play one of the songs on the Revived album. Or even better, look up Mason Jar Moonshine on Apple Music or your music source first and listen to a song. Then ask ChatGPT about it.

[yankees60]

Don’t want to miss The Big Day Vinny Switches Computers, or
as ochotona might call it, TBDVSC.

This computer I bought used for $500 in 2017 just refuses to die even though it is super clogged with dust and cat hair.

It has an Intel i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz in it.

CPU Benchmark has it at:

Multithread Rating
7053
Single Thread Rating
2169

The one I had in the custom built computer from December 2022 (and which I still only occasionally use) has a:

Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor

CPU Benchmark has it at:

Multithread Rating
45863
Single Thread Rating
4332

I am quite surprised at the power of the CPU in used ThinkPads you can buy for $200 to $250. Seem to be about 50% more powerful than what is in this computer.

[dualstow]

RIP Charlie Kirk

[Mountaineer]

RIP Charlie Kirk

Horrible event. Evil perpetrator. I can only imagine the pain his family must be feeling.

[Smith1776]

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New furnace acquired

[Smith1776]

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Completed build!

Brief specs:

- Core i9 14900KF
- 64GB DDR5 RAM
- RTX 5060 Ti GPU
- 2TB storage



Some benchmarks next.

[dualstow]

What are you, mining bitcoin with that monstrosity?

[yankees60]

What are you, mining bitcoin with that monstrosity?

Yes! What will you be doing with it??!!!

[yankees60]

RIP Charlie Kirk

Before yesterday his name had no name recognition for me. Do not believe I have ever heard him speak. This morning may listen to some of this things at the C-Span web site.

[Mountaineer]

What are you, mining bitcoin with that monstrosity?

Monstrosity? That’s only a little better than my mid-2018 i7 MacBook Pro 32gb ram and 2tb ssd.

[dualstow]

What are you, mining bitcoin with that monstrosity?

Monstrosity? That’s only a little better than my mid-2018 i7 MacBook Pro 32gb ram and 2tb ssd.

Just the lights, not the specs.

[Xan]

The lights help it mine Bitcoin faster. It's a lot like what Clarkson calls "go fast stripes" on Mustangs.

[dualstow]

I totally fell for the Zips brand sneakers as a kid in the 70’s.
“Zips help you run fast!”

[Smith1776]

This meme pretty much sums it up.

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[yankees60]

This meme pretty much sums it up.


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Good one!

[dualstow]

The face in that meme reminds me of Chucky

[yankees60]

Before two days ago I don't think the name Charlie Kirk had any name recognition for me. Could not tell you who he was.

Yesterday I first listened to this:

https://www.c-span.org/program/book-tv/ ... ine/542311

March 8, 2020

Book TV



The MAGA Doctrine

Turning Point founder Charlie Kirk offered his thoughts on what he calls the new conservative agenda.



Then I went to Amazon and bought his book.






The MAGA Doctrine: The Only Ideas That Will Win the Future Kindle Edition

by Charlie Kirk (Author)


Cost me $2.99 yesterday. Looks like it cost $2.69 today.

Read the entire book yesterday.


You can also listen / read as much as you want to the above and decide for yourself how much of a truth seeker that he was.

[Xan]

Reasonable people can certainly disagree with him on the issues. But taking a step back, what he really believed was that the path forward was through civil discourse. He was an advocate of leaving your "bubble" and having healthy debates about issues. He was on Gavin Newsom's podcast recently doing just that, and it seems that the governor thought highly of him, despite their disagreements on policy.

His tours were about getting out in front of people, in person, and having those debates. He could have just been a talking head.

[yankees60]

Was the forum down for a certain amount of time yesterday? I only tried last night and could not get in.

[dualstow]

I think so

[Xan]

Sorry guys, it was probably overwhelmed by... somebody? For reasons?

[Smith1776]

Yeah it was also inaccessible on my end for a while. I was hoping it wasn't some kind of cyber attack.

[yankees60]

Reasonable people can certainly disagree with him on the issues. But taking a step back, what he really believed was that the path forward was through civil discourse. He was an advocate of leaving your "bubble" and having healthy debates about issues. He was on Gavin Newsom's podcast recently doing just that, and it seems that the governor thought highly of him, despite their disagreements on policy.

His tours were about getting out in front of people, in person, and having those debates. He could have just been a talking head.

For me .. this says it all.


The Nation, Sept. 12, 2025
There is no requirement to take part in this whitewashing campaign, and refusing to join in doesn’t make anyone a bad person. It’s a choice to write an obituary that begins “Joseph Goebbels was a gifted marketer and loving father to six children.”"harles James Kirk, 31, died on Wednesday from a gunshot to the neck at a Utah Valley University campus event just as he was trying to deflect a question about mass shootings by suggesting they were largely a function of gang violence. He died with a net worth of $12 million, which he made by espousing horrific and bigoted views in the name of advancing Christian nationalism. The foundation of his empire was the group he cofounded and led, Turning Point USA, which is a key youth-recruitment arm of the MAGA movement. Kirk was able to launch Turning Point at the age of 18 because he received money from Tea Party member Bill Montgomery, right-wing donor Foster Feiss, and his own father, also a prolific right-wing donor. He was an unrepentant racist, transphobe, homophobe, and misogynist who often wrapped his bigotry in Bible verses because there was no other way to pretend that it was morally correct. He had children, as do many vile people.
It is rude of me to say all of this, because we live in a culture where manners are often valued more than truth. That is why a slew of pundits and politicians have raced to portray Kirk’s activities, which harmed many vulnerable people, in a positive light—and to give him the benefit of the doubt that he did not grant to anyone who wasn’t white, Christian, straight, and male. California Governor Gavin Newsom framed Kirk’s project as a healthy democratic exercise: “The best way to honor Charlie’s memory is to continue his work: engage with each other, across ideology, through spirited discourse. In a democracy, ideas are tested through words and good-faith debate.” This downwardly defines both “discourse” and “good-faith.”
There is no requirement to take part in this whitewashing campaign, and refusing to join in doesn’t make anyone a bad person. It’s a choice to write an obituary that begins “Joseph Goebbels was a gifted marketer and loving father to six children.”
Many of the facile defenses of Kirk and his legacy are predicated on the idea that it’s acceptable to spread hateful ideas advocating for the persecution of perceived enemies as long you dress them up in a posture of debate. This is just class privilege. The man who said, “Black women do not have brain processing power to be taken seriously. You have to go steal a white person’s slot” said it while wearing a nice shirt and a tie on a podcast instead of tattered overalls in the parking lot of a rural Walmart. That does not make it any less racist.
It’s true that we cannot know what was in Charlie Kirk’s heart because we are not telepathic. But we can make reasonable inferences based on the things he said and did publicly because we are also not colossally stupid. He built a large following, and acquired real political power saying these things—to young people, to the president and his minions, to deep-pocket right-wing donors—and there are far too many people who have been ready to suggest that he was able to do this through a combination of natural charisma and good old-fashioned hard work. Speaking about and addressing the late Texas Representative Sheila Jackson Lee, who is Black, he said, “It’s very obvious to us you are not smart enough to be able to get it on your own. ‘I could not make it on my own, so I needed to take opportunities from someone more deserving.’” Kirk was smart enough to ask his father for a check when wanted to found Turning Point, and had always been happy to curtail opportunities for more deserving people when they failed to conform to his own ideology.
It’s this that makes it particularly galling to see him cast by some as a free-speech warrior. He created a professor watchlist explicitly designed to get academics fired who dared talk about the right’s usual assortment of verboten topics—anything to do with race or gender, in particular. He also offered the standard right-wing plaint about left-wing indoctrination in American universities even as he went on campus tours trying to indoctrinate young people into his hard-right Christian nationalist worldview.
When we decline to speak ill of the dead, it’s because we have compassion for the living. In this respect, I am sorry for Kirk’s children. I don’t know if Kirk was a good father, but if he was, that does little to mitigate the damage he did to other people’s children. I can only hope for the sake of his kids that they have role models who will teach them that it is wrong to profit off the dehumanization of people because of who they are.
When asked about mass shootings he said, “I think it’s worth it. I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year, so that we can have the Second Amendment.” Perhaps Kirk did not believe that his own life would be cut short by gun violence, but, like the rest of us, he has witnessed countless school shootings. When he said “some gun deaths” are acceptable, he surely knew he lived in a country where the deaths he deemed acceptable included those of children, some of whom were the age of his own. There is no inherent virtue in caring about your own children; that is the bare minimum requirement for effective parenting. Virtue lies in caring about the safety and well-being of children you don’t know.
On that front, I’m fairly sure Kirk did not care about my child. My child lives in Brooklyn, in a progressive family. His mother works and does not have a marriage where she is considered inferior to her husband or required to obey him, as Kirk arrogantly told Taylor Swift she should do after learning of her engagement. (“Reject feminism,” he said. “You’re not in charge.”) We also live in a Haitian immigrant neighborhood, and if you only listened to Charlie Kirk, you might be under the impression that my neighbors eat pets. You would also be encouraged to believe that, simply by virtue of being non-white immigrants, they were “replacing” white people—and that, since they are also Black, they are dangerous. “Happening all the time in urban America,” he said, “prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact.”
I do not believe anyone should be murdered because of their views, but that is because I don’t believe people should be murdered generally, regardless of who they are or what they’ve done. I am against the death penalty, pro–gun control, and believe war is a failure of humanity, not a necessary byproduct of it. Kirk was fine with murder as long the right people were dying.
Some of the people valorizing Kirk insist that all of his toxicity was acceptable because at least he was open to debate—a bar so low, you’d have to dig into the Mariana Trench to get to it. And he certainly paid lip service to it. “We record all of it so that we put [it] on the Internet so people can see these ideas collide,” he said of his own streaming operation. “When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence. That’s when civil war happens, because you start to think the other side is so evil, and they lose their humanity.”
But Kirk’s actions undercut that notion every day. His entire business was saying the other side was evil and dehumanizing them. The debates were simply performances, and he could not have an entertaining public fight without opposition. Turning Point did not work to bring people together; it worked to bring about a country where anyone who wasn’t a white Christian nationalist wasn’t welcome. I won’t celebrate his death, but I’m not obligated to celebrate his life, either.