PP in Germany
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The portfolio has reached the €40,000 mark. The savings plans have been suspended since November. From now on, buying and selling will only occur when the ranges are met.
It feels like gold is currently forming a flagpole.
It feels like gold is currently forming a flagpole.
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Hi
Why you stopped adding savings!?
Regards
Why you stopped adding savings!?
Regards
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Okay, that's a misunderstanding.
I'm still depositing €1,000 into the account. So the volume is still growing. I'm just no longer buying all asset classes every month, but only when the 15/40 range is hit. Then there's a rebalancing to 4 x 25.
I'm still depositing €1,000 into the account. So the volume is still growing. I'm just no longer buying all asset classes every month, but only when the 15/40 range is hit. Then there's a rebalancing to 4 x 25.
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hi,
so only CASH is growing and waiting bands?
Why not 15-35%?
Re: PP in Germany
Ok, you got. me
It´s 15/35
It´s 15/35
Re: PP in Germany
Hi
Have you thought
to have a second US-PP?
Regards
Have you thought
Regards
Re: PP in Deutschland
No, that is no Option
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Out of curiosity: what was the rationale for switching from buying all asset to increasing the cash portion until the rebalancing band is triggered?
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It's simply a matter of costs. The broker charges me a 1.5% savings plan fee for gold. A manual order costs half that.
I'm also not willing to continue buying at any price, given the exorbitantly rising gold price. I buy every month, only to adjust things again in a few months through rebalancing. I'm choosing the more relaxed path here and have little need for action now.
I'm also not willing to continue buying at any price, given the exorbitantly rising gold price. I buy every month, only to adjust things again in a few months through rebalancing. I'm choosing the more relaxed path here and have little need for action now.
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I'm European. The risk or opportunity associated with the US dollar is more than adequately contained in Global Stocks. Over 70% is in North America. I don't need more. The price of gold is also traded in dollars. Gold price increases are currently only muted for euro investors. So why take more risk?
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Although, it had better CAGRGrinch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 5:40 am I'm European. The risk or opportunity associated with the US dollar is more than adequately contained in Global Stocks. Over 70% is in North America. I don't need more. The price of gold is also traded in dollars. Gold price increases are currently only muted for euro investors. So why take more risk?
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In Euro or USD?
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I've registered that. But I spend my money in euros. I wouldn't buy long-term bonds or cash holdings in USD. I'm also adding currency risk to my portfolio in addition to interest rate risk. So, not an option for me. Global Stocks and gold offer sufficient risk.
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After switching from savings plans to bandwidth, no further transactions were made apart from the monthly savings rate of €1,000. The bandwidth was not affected.
internal rate of return
2025 = 10.84%
overall = 11.19%
True Time-Weighted Rate of Return (kumulativ)
2025 = 10.35%
overall = 30.53%
Max Drawdown on liberation Day 7.41%
Performance 2025
Stocks (VANGEIS) = 6,48%
Bonds (VGYETII) = -9,14%
Gold (4GLD) = 46,35%
The US dollar lost approximately 14% against the euro.
2025 = 10.84%
overall = 11.19%
True Time-Weighted Rate of Return (kumulativ)
2025 = 10.35%
overall = 30.53%
Max Drawdown on liberation Day 7.41%
Performance 2025
Stocks (VANGEIS) = 6,48%
Bonds (VGYETII) = -9,14%
Gold (4GLD) = 46,35%
The US dollar lost approximately 14% against the euro.
Last edited by Grinch on Tue Dec 30, 2025 3:43 am, edited 2 times in total.
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According to google translate,
aktien, anleihen, barbestand mean
stocks, bonds, and cash balance respectively.
That’s a curious word, barbestan. Sounds like one of those breakaway republics near Azerbaijan. //Edit: I omitted the d, my bad. With the d, it doesn’t sound so much like a country in Central Asia after all.
aktien, anleihen, barbestand mean
stocks, bonds, and cash balance respectively.
That’s a curious word, barbestan. Sounds like one of those breakaway republics near Azerbaijan. //Edit: I omitted the d, my bad. With the d, it doesn’t sound so much like a country in Central Asia after all.
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Itˋs Not barbestan, that Sounds Like babarian
Barbestand is the correct German Word
Barbestand is the correct German Word
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Barbestand klingt nach... Accouting?
Interesting Update, thanks a lot!
Interesting Update, thanks a lot!
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Whoops, sorry about that.
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3 fantastic years!
Last 13 weren’t like this unfortunately

Last 13 weren’t like this unfortunately