Shadow Trade -- Illegal Dog Meat Documentary

[MachineGhost]

Here's the official trailer for a documentary about Vietnam's and Thailand's illegal dog meat trade.  They hope it will become the next "Blackfish" or "The Cove":

https://vimeo.com/69684356

[MachineGhost]

I thought this news was interesting:

SeaWorld intends to challenge a decision banning it from breeding killer whales in captivity, after California authorities gave the theme park permits for two larger orca pools on condition it stops the practice. Attendance at SeaWorld (NYSE:SEAS) has steadily declined since the release of the popular documentary "Blackfish" in 2013, and the company's stock price has suffered as a result. SEAS closed at $18.77 a share on Thursday. In May 2013, the stock price was $38.88.

Some C-suite executives just don't get it.

[Fred]

Just got back from Maine where we visited my brother and ate lobster nearly every day.

My brother has a dog he's had for many years and is about 88 in dog years and nearing the end. My brother and his wife never had any kids and I think they treat him even better than a lot of children get treated.

He was a nice dog and I liked him myself but it makes you think what is the difference between a lobster and a dog any way?

[MachineGhost]

He was a nice dog and I liked him myself but it makes you think what is the difference between a lobster and a dog any way?

Higher order consciousness, emotions and morality.  I'm not sure if dogs have a concept of self like a few other animals.

Although, we really can't be sure.  If it turns out lesser life forms like lobster have those aspects also, I think we're in a world of trouble (and need petri-dish cloned meat, STAT).

[Fred]

Higher order consciousness, emotions and morality.

But we can only measure these things in human terms, and even then how can we possibly know we are correct?

Maybe only if we get re-incarnated as a lobster.

[Kriegsspiel]

I hope it won't, personally. I love dog meat.

[MachineGhost]

When a lobster runs to the door, excited that I have returned home, and licks my face, I will stop eating lobster.

You don't think boiling a creature alive is harsh and cruel punishment?

Fortunately (or unfortunately?) reincarnation does not appear to work in the direction of lower life forms.  However, that doesn't mean you then get have a license to be callous about killing them.  I'm sure the universe in its rational self-consistency finds a way to address the resulting karmic imbalance.  No free lunch...

[Mountaineer]

When a lobster runs to the door, excited that I have returned home, and licks my face, I will stop eating lobster.

You don't think boiling a creature alive is harsh and cruel punishment?

Fortunately (or unfortunately?) reincarnation does not appear to work in the direction of lower life forms.  However, that doesn't mean you then get have a license to be callous about killing them.  I'm sure the universe in its rational self-consistency finds a way to address the resulting karmic imbalance.  No free lunch...

Only if one is deemed worthy by the expanded welfare state ... but then again, the individual pays for those free lunches in "lost liberty" chits and the provider of the free lunch just took someone else's goods to redistribute as a free lunch, so I guess you are right after all. 

... M

[mathjak107]

LET US WOK YOUR DOG!

[Mountaineer]

LET US WOK YOUR DOG!

He would be delicious sauteed, stir fried, or grilled.
You'd have to kill me first, though, to get at him!

Is that an offer to wok you and your dog? 

... M

[dualstow]

When a lobster runs to the door, excited that I have returned home, and licks my face, I will stop eating lobster.

I'm not ruling out lobster love (please don't quote that out of context, guys  ), but how about this:

Dogs really do love us: Study finds first evidence of inter-species hormone exchange
Published time: 17 Apr, 2015 10:55

imagine the surprise at Azabu University’s School of Veterinary Medicine in Sagamihara, Japan when Miho Nagasawa, Takefumi Kikusui and their colleagues found that the bond works both ways between our species: dogs just love to peer into our eyes, as we do into theirs.

The study involved oxytocin.
https://www.rt.com/news/250485-dogs-lov ... s-hormone/

(more pug stuff)
Yes, I do. And it disturbs me. So does the way they treat pugs pigs, cows and chickens. I have considered becoming a vegetarian, but the food choices are too limited. I do acknowledge that's a lame cop-out excuse for eating meat.

Same here. I am not a good vegetarian, but I'm working at being a "meat reducer" and a mindful carnivore. The first thing is self-explanatory. As for the second, I buy my pigs and chickens from a farmers' market, where they are murdered with tender loving care.

[dualstow]

lol. Well, Desert, you're not alone. The vegan chef who was once married to the star of [url=http://Super%20Size%20Me]Super Size Me[/url] started eating meat years ago, although it may have been after she split up with the documentarian, so no influence there. Her blog entry about it said she needed meat. The woman had a craving, what can you do?

As far as I know, dog is not on her menu.
Honestly, I would try dog, but it would also have to be raised ethically. Any illicit trade, and you know it's just the worst of the worst as far as these animals' lives go.

[MachineGhost]

I don't believe in reincarnation, and I'm still waiting for you to provide the promised evidence that it exists, as you stated in another thread.

I gave a book that should do the job.  Dummy's Guide to Reincarnation or something like that.

[MachineGhost]

And you consider one book, written by one author, to be 'evidence' and the final authority?  Seriously?

There's plenty of more, of course, but that's an easy and smooth general n00b introduction into the topic I'm sure.  There's not a virtual monopoly on "universal truths" as there is with religious mysticism.

[MachineGhost]

So you haven't actually read the book?

Not yet.

[dualstow]

It's part of MG's winter project, along with trying out Personal Capital.

[MachineGhost]

MG, I highly respect you, but you have made the claim twice that there is 'overwhelming evidence' that reincarnation exists. And yet the only evidence you can provide is a single book that you haven't even read?!? C'mon, you are more credible than that. Please either provide an actual source of 'evidence', or otherwise, retract your original statement that reincarnation is real. To be honest, I was surprised to hear that come out of your keyboard in the first place based on other opinions you have expressed.

Okay, don't say I didn't warn you: http://www.afterlifedata.com/