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- Sat Jun 07, 2025 6:44 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: HB Permanent Portfolio: Now at 30/30/30/10 – What are the Risks? 🤔
- Replies: 1
- Views: 628
HB Permanent Portfolio: Now at 30/30/30/10 – What are the Risks? 🤔
Hey everyone, :) I've been a long-time advocate and holder of Harry Browne's Permanent Portfolio (HB PP) for a while now. I've really appreciated its stability and "all-weather" diversification through various market conditions. ☔☀️🌬️❄️ Initially, I started with the classic 25% stocks, 25%...
- Sat May 31, 2025 1:29 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: ⌛ Too Late for Bitcoin? Or Just the Right Time? ⚡ Finally Taking the First Step into Bitcoin?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 7267
- Thu May 29, 2025 4:56 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: ⌛ Too Late for Bitcoin? Or Just the Right Time? ⚡ Finally Taking the First Step into Bitcoin?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 7267
Re: ⌛ Too Late for Bitcoin? Or Just the Right Time? ⚡ Finally Taking the First Step into Bitcoin?
• The total gold market cap is around $13 trillion.
• If Bitcoin captures just 10% of that market, that implies a BTC price of $600,000 to $1M.
• If Bitcoin captures just 10% of that market, that implies a BTC price of $600,000 to $1M.
- Wed May 28, 2025 6:10 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: ⌛ Too Late for Bitcoin? Or Just the Right Time? ⚡ Finally Taking the First Step into Bitcoin?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 7267
⌛ Too Late for Bitcoin? Or Just the Right Time? ⚡ Finally Taking the First Step into Bitcoin?
Dear PP fellows, 👋 After all these years… I never managed to invest in Bitcoin. Yes, I watched, I read, I hesitated… and then did nothing. Now I look back and honestly think: We probably should’ve allocated at least 5% of our portfolio. Just that. Not all-in, not speculative. Just a small, steady po...
- Tue May 27, 2025 7:39 am
- Forum: Variable Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Bitcoin giveaway! :)
- Replies: 383
- Views: 206737
Re: Bitcoin giveaway! :)
It seems likely that you forgot to write down one of the 12 words? Do you have an intuition as to what position the forgotten word was in? If you know that then brute forcing the seed phrase should be pretty easy. The BIP 39 dictionary has 2048 words. Hi 👋🏻 now like this: Imported Bitcoin addresses...
- Mon May 26, 2025 1:07 pm
- Forum: Variable Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Bitcoin giveaway! :)
- Replies: 383
- Views: 206737
Re: Bitcoin giveaway! :)
Hello everyone, 👋 I have an old paper wallet that I printed from a website a while ago. On the paper, there is a login link 🔗 and a mnemonic 📝. The problem is that the mnemonic only has 11 words, but I believe it should have 12. ❓ I used to log in to the wallet in the past and could see the balance ...
- Sat May 24, 2025 5:20 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 📊 Current Portfolio Allocation – Almost a Permanent Portfolio (EU-PP-HB ) 💼
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3401
📊 Current Portfolio Allocation – Almost a Permanent Portfolio (EU-PP-HB ) 💼
Hey everyone, Today my portfolio is roughly: • 🟡 30% Gold • 📈 30% Stocks • 💵 30% Bonds • 💰 10% Cash This is close to the Harry Browne Permanent Portfolio strategy, though not exactly the same (and not strictly rebalanced either). 🤔 I’m thinking of adding new money, but I’m trying to avoid rebalancin...
- Sat May 17, 2025 2:34 am
- Forum: Other Discussions
- Topic: Bitcoin Costs More than Gold?
- Replies: 114
- Views: 86578
Re: Bitcoin Costs More than Gold?
outside the US people are paying their plumber and barber in bitcoin? with what apps. Waiting for a dip in bitcoin but as 2020 demonstrated there might not be another dip. Printer turns right on I don’t see that … Binance had a card but it seems to finish Paying with cripto will be usual everyday?
- Fri May 16, 2025 4:55 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 💸 Is Rebalancing the Permanent Portfolio Costing You More Than You Think? 🤔
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2914
Re: 💸 Is Rebalancing the Permanent Portfolio Costing You More Than You Think? 🤔
PROBLEM
Rebalancing is not a minor detail—it’s a fundamental component of the strategy.




- Wed May 14, 2025 9:32 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 💸 Is Rebalancing the Permanent Portfolio Costing You More Than You Think? 🤔
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2914
Re: 💸 Is Rebalancing the Permanent Portfolio Costing You More Than You Think? 🤔
🔍 I’d really like to hear how others using the Permanent Portfolio are handling this. Do you adjust your rebalancing strategy to reduce the tax hit? 📬 Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. 1. Funds are in a Superannuation Account (Retirement Savings Plan) 2. Use a Vanguard Ready Made ETF (VDCO)...
- Wed May 14, 2025 4:17 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 💸 Is Rebalancing the Permanent Portfolio Costing You More Than You Think? 🤔
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2914
💸 Is Rebalancing the Permanent Portfolio Costing You More Than You Think? 🤔
👋 Hi everyone, hope you're doing well. I’ve been revisiting some aspects of my Permanent Portfolio (25% stocks, 25% long-term bonds, 25% gold, 25% cash), and there’s one issue I keep coming back to — one that I think is seriously underestimated: the tax impact of rebalancing 🔄💰. Rebalancing keeps ev...
- Mon May 12, 2025 5:36 pm
- Forum: Variable Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Marc De Messel Portfolio
- Replies: 27
- Views: 32671
Re: Marc De Messel Portfolio
Ahahah Why it was so difficult to have like 5% of capital in bitcoin? Why we are so afraid? 😳 PP followers may be averse to risk … ? Risk averse, for sure, frugal. I don’t want to be boring, but think of it this way: Pascal’s Wager, if I have it right, is the premise that you should believe in God ...
- Sat May 10, 2025 9:20 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: If the EURO 💶 collapses 🤯
- Replies: 12
- Views: 3532
Re: If the EURO 💶 collapses 🤯
OCHOTONA Hi! Invesco's Swiss Franc ETF + iGOV iShares International sovereign bond ETF = both for 25% cash portion of PP? Or it is a second PP outside US-HB-PP? 8) ??? One consideration is that the IGOV has a duration of 7-8 years, similar to IEF. Some people implement a US Permanent Portfolio of 2...
- Fri May 09, 2025 6:54 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: If the EURO 💶 collapses 🤯
- Replies: 12
- Views: 3532
Re: If the EURO 💶 collapses 🤯
OCHOTONA
Hi!
Invesco's Swiss Franc ETF
+
iGOV iShares International sovereign bond ETF
= both for 25% cash portion of PP?
Or it is a second PP outside US-HB-PP?

Hi!
Invesco's Swiss Franc ETF
+
iGOV iShares International sovereign bond ETF
= both for 25% cash portion of PP?
Or it is a second PP outside US-HB-PP?


- Thu May 08, 2025 12:57 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: If the EURO 💶 collapses 🤯
- Replies: 12
- Views: 3532
Re: If the EURO 💶 collapses 🤯
Hi
An US citizen should have 20-30% in directly euros
?
And an EU citizen should have 20-30% in US Dollars
?
Or the 25% gold on PP should be enough to protect us from currencies collapses ?
Regards
An US citizen should have 20-30% in directly euros
And an EU citizen should have 20-30% in US Dollars
Or the 25% gold on PP should be enough to protect us from currencies collapses ?
Regards
- Wed May 07, 2025 5:51 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: If the EURO 💶 collapses 🤯
- Replies: 12
- Views: 3532
Re: If the EURO 💶 collapses 🤯

Problem is:
Gold is only 25%

Shouldn’t be enough to offset losses …
Waiting your comments I remain.
Regards
- Wed May 07, 2025 5:47 am
- Forum: Other Discussions
- Topic: Bitcoin Costs More than Gold?
- Replies: 114
- Views: 86578
Re: Bitcoin Costs More than Gold?
As a perhaps-humorous note, perhaps giving some insight into me: I currently live in Bitcoin City, El Salvador. And I still have the essentially same view of Bitcoin as I did when participating in this thread. Though I do wish I had bought a whole bunch back then! :D Hi 👋🏻 Can you explain your thou...
- Tue May 06, 2025 6:05 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: If the EURO 💶 collapses 🤯
- Replies: 12
- Views: 3532
If the EURO 💶 collapses 🤯
Hello 👋🏻 if I finally decided to create a Permanent Portfolio for the United States 🇺🇸, my reasoning is that, if the euro collapses 📉, having a significant portion of my assets in dollars 💵 would offer me more complete protection against the depreciation of the European currency 🇪🇺. In this scenario...
- Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:40 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 🌍 Exploring USD-Based Diversification: Golden Butterfly 🦋 or Second Permanent Portfolio 📊?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2646
Re: 🌍 Exploring USD-Based Diversification: Golden Butterfly 🦋 or Second Permanent Portfolio 📊?
Hi WhiteElephant,
So, in that case, does it make sense to hold gold in EUR, cash in EUR, and then allocate stocks and bonds in USD?

Curious to hear your thoughts!
Cheers,
Frugal
So, in that case, does it make sense to hold gold in EUR, cash in EUR, and then allocate stocks and bonds in USD?
Curious to hear your thoughts!
Cheers,
Frugal
- Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:08 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 🌍 Exploring USD-Based Diversification: Golden Butterfly 🦋 or Second Permanent Portfolio 📊?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2646
Re: 🌍 Exploring USD-Based Diversification: Golden Butterfly 🦋 or Second Permanent Portfolio 📊?
Hello WhiteElephant,
Gold is exactly the same to be in USD or EUR ?
Regards!

Gold is exactly the same to be in USD or EUR ?
Regards!

- Wed Apr 30, 2025 3:26 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 🌍 Exploring USD-Based Diversification: Golden Butterfly 🦋 or Second Permanent Portfolio 📊?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2646
Re: 🌍 Exploring USD-Based Diversification: Golden Butterfly 🦋 or Second Permanent Portfolio 📊?
Hi 👋, My main question remains: is it worth having 20–40% direct exposure to USD 💵, through US-domiciled ETFs traded in dollars? At one point, I seriously considered building a US-style Harry Browne Permanent Portfolio (HB-PP-USA) using US-domiciled assets. After all, that’s where the strategy origi...
- Tue Apr 29, 2025 12:20 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 🌍 Exploring USD-Based Diversification: Golden Butterfly 🦋 or Second Permanent Portfolio 📊?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2646
Re: 🌍 Exploring USD-Based Diversification: Golden Butterfly 🦋 or Second Permanent Portfolio 📊?

Regarding US-HB-PP with european ETFs in euros, what do you think?
Is the risk covered and hedged or they are the same as USD ETFs ?

- Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:25 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 🌍 Exploring USD-Based Diversification: Golden Butterfly 🦋 or Second Permanent Portfolio 📊?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2646
🌍 Exploring USD-Based Diversification: Golden Butterfly 🦋 or Second Permanent Portfolio 📊?
Dear PPeers, I have recently completed the construction of a Permanent Portfolio based in Europe 🇪🇺, fully denominated in euros. This allocation suits my objectives of long-term capital preservation, low volatility, and resilience across economic cycles. At this stage, I am considering further diver...
- Sun Apr 27, 2025 4:45 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Classic ETF Options for Each Asset in the US Permanent Portfolio 📈🧱
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3460
Re: Classic ETF Options for Each Asset in the US Permanent Portfolio 📈🧱
Hello
Which assets and weights % do you have ?
Regards
Which assets and weights % do you have ?
Regards
- Sun Apr 27, 2025 3:53 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Classic ETF Options for Each Asset in the US Permanent Portfolio 📈🧱
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3460
Re: Classic ETF Options for Each Asset in the US Permanent Portfolio 📈🧱
Hi
Isn’t it stock picking?

Isn’t it stock picking?
